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If/When Fulmer leaves...

Does anyone understand that Bob Stoops makes 6.5 million dollars/year?

Coaches Salaries and Contracts

The REAL question has to be asked, of the TOP 50 paid coaches, whom is a product of location, and who will not be leaving for 5-6 million dollars/year.

IMO:

Stoops, Carrol, Weis, Miles, Saban, Tressel, Brown, Richt, Beamer are ALL comfortable at their programs, and their locations.

That leaves us with, Ferentz, Petrino, Tuberville, Rodriguez, Bowden, Mangino, Schiano, Belloti, Davis and Jones.

Does anyone see our program altering coach anywhere in there?

I feel we may be looking around in college and thinking to narrow. We have great recruiting assistants in Stan Drayton(RB), Latrell Scott(WR), and Dave Clawson(QB? (so far)we may have to open the box a little wider in the search.

Mike Nolan, Lane + Monte Kiffin, Sean Payton all will have to start sounding reasonable, if we are looking for a superstar.

By the way, Jon Gruden received a contract extension last year through 2011, so we would be spending a ton of money for that + Fulmer's buyout + new UT Contract = could be estimated around 30-40 million for a hiring of this magnitude (don't see that happening)
 
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Ferentz -ROFL
Petrino-ROFL
Tuberville -ROFL
Rodriguez-ROFL
Bowden -ROFL
Mangino -ROFL
Schiano -ROFL
Belloti -ROFL
Davis -ROFL
Jones -ROFL
Mike Nolan -ROFL
Sean Payton -ROFL
 
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I don't think a college that hires an NFL coach has to pay an NFL buyout. I suppose it depends on the terms of the contract, but I've never heard of that happening. I would like to see Gruden but I think it is totally unrealistic to think he would leave the NFL at this point. I am sticking by my choice of Muschamp. He is going to be the hfc at a BCS school in 2009 and I think it might as well be UTK. I realize he is a bit of a gamble but so is any coach. Even keeping Fulmer is a gamble if the goal is to win championships. There are no guarantees with anyone but I like Muchamp's pedigree in the Southeast and Southwest as well as his enthusiasm.
 
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Guys I apolgize for calling some of you guys stupid saying that Butch Davis will never come here. I was talking to one of my closest friends, which is a multi million donor and he gave me some very interesting information. He said that Hamilton has been in Chapel Hill last week talking to Butch Davis, and supposely offered him the job. He has also been in contact with Wil Muschamp to take over assistant coach/ Defensive cordinator. He also wants to do something like FSU did with Jim-Bo Fisher, making him the next head coach in line behind Davis. Hamilton has also told my friend donor that he has thought really hard of offering Trooper Taylor Offense Cordinator. Trooper really loved his job at UT and wants to come back for the right guy. Fulmer just did what he is doing with Clawson, not letting them call the plays they want to run, or play the players they want to play. He really wants to keep Clawson, but demote him to assistant OC/QB coach. There are 4 people on this years staff that he wants to stay on the staff. Fulmer will most likely be promoted to Assistant AD/ Football Operations, or if he wants to keep coaching, return him back as O-line coach. Hamilton has told the donors that this is what he wants, so if if goes through, then it is what it is, but if it doesn't then its not. You can believe it or not, but I don't think Hamilton will lie to a multi-million dollar donor. I may have made myself look like a fool before, and I hope I haven't given myself a bad name. I am just telling this as it is from what I heard from a donor. Please do not critize me, or make fun because I didn't make this up.
 
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so instead of ROFL, how about some productive thoughts on the coaching change. It is amazing how stupid someone who thinks Butch Davs, Kirk Ferentz and Sean Payton are just funny, obviously has nothing positive about it.
 
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What happened to the guys like Chris Petersen and Brian Kelly? Oh yeah, they wouldn't want the UT job because they would have to start over from scratch. Must have missed a memo on that one.
 
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Yeah Kirk Ferentz easily deserves a ROFL and Payton is close. Can't hire a coach that wears eye liner.
 
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TNVol92 said:
Guys I apolgize for calling some of you guys stupid saying that Butch Davis will never come here. I was talking to one of my closest friends, which is a multi million donor and he gave me some very interesting information. He said that Hamilton has been in Chapel Hill last week talking to Butch Davis, and supposely offered him the job. He has also been in contact with Wil Muschamp to take over assistant coach/ Defensive cordinator. He also wants to do something like FSU did with Jim-Bo Fisher, making him the next head coach in line behind Davis. Hamilton has also told my friend donor that he has thought really hard of offering Trooper Taylor Offense Cordinator. Trooper really loved his job at UT and wants to come back for the right guy. Fulmer just did what he is doing with Clawson, not letting them call the plays they want to run, or play the players they want to play. He really wants to keep Clawson, but demote him to assistant OC/QB coach. There are 4 people on this years staff that he wants to stay on the staff. Fulmer will most likely be promoted to Assistant AD/ Football Operations, or if he wants to keep coaching, return him back as O-line coach. Hamilton has told the donors that this is what he wants, so if if goes through, then it is what it is, but if it doesn't then its not. You can believe it or not, but I don't think Hamilton will lie to a multi-million dollar donor. I may have made myself look like a fool before, and I hope I haven't given myself a bad name. I am just telling this as it is from what I heard from a donor. Please do not critize me, or make fun because I didn't make this up. :hi:
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I see no reason Muschamp would accept that setup. He has a great setup at Texas and can be a HC sooner than Butch Davis steps down from UT (in your senario).
 
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Gcrop said:
I see no reason Muschamp would accept that setup. He has a great setup at Texas and can be a HC sooner than Butch Davis steps down from UT (in your senario).
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Its also an NCAA violation for him to talk to either of those guys until after the season. I'm calling BS on his donor friend"
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TNVol92 said:
Guys I apolgize for calling some of you guys stupid saying that Butch Davis will never come here. I was talking to one of my closest friends, which is a multi million donor and he gave me some very interesting information. He said that Hamilton has been in Chapel Hill last week talking to Butch Davis, and supposely offered him the job. He has also been in contact with Wil Muschamp to take over assistant coach/ Defensive cordinator. He also wants to do something like FSU did with Jim-Bo Fisher, making him the next head coach in line behind Davis. Hamilton has also told my friend donor that he has thought really hard of offering Trooper Taylor Offense Cordinator. Trooper really loved his job at UT and wants to come back for the right guy. Fulmer just did what he is doing with Clawson, not letting them call the plays they want to run, or play the players they want to play. He really wants to keep Clawson, but demote him to assistant OC/QB coach. There are 4 people on this years staff that he wants to stay on the staff. Fulmer will most likely be promoted to Assistant AD/ Football Operations, or if he wants to keep coaching, return him back as O-line coach. Hamilton has told the donors that this is what he wants, so if if goes through, then it is what it is, but if it doesn't then its not. You can believe it or not, but I don't think Hamilton will lie to a multi-million dollar donor. I may have made myself look like a fool before, and I hope I haven't given myself a bad name. I am just telling this as it is from what I heard from a donor. Please do not critize me, or make fun because I didn't make this up. :hi:
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If this rumor has any legs at all and comes true I will fill my house full of champagne and drink all night.:) All of volnation can come join me.
 
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TNVol92 said:
Guys I apolgize for calling some of you guys stupid saying that Butch Davis will never come here. I was talking to one of my closest friends, which is a multi million donor and he gave me some very interesting information. He said that Hamilton has been in Chapel Hill last week talking to Butch Davis, and supposely offered him the job. He has also been in contact with Wil Muschamp to take over assistant coach/ Defensive cordinator. He also wants to do something like FSU did with Jim-Bo Fisher, making him the next head coach in line behind Davis. Hamilton has also told my friend donor that he has thought really hard of offering Trooper Taylor Offense Cordinator. Trooper really loved his job at UT and wants to come back for the right guy. Fulmer just did what he is doing with Clawson, not letting them call the plays they want to run, or play the players they want to play. He really wants to keep Clawson, but demote him to assistant OC/QB coach. There are 4 people on this years staff that he wants to stay on the staff. Fulmer will most likely be promoted to Assistant AD/ Football Operations, or if he wants to keep coaching, return him back as O-line coach. Hamilton has told the donors that this is what he wants, so if if goes through, then it is what it is, but if it doesn't then its not. You can believe it or not, but I don't think Hamilton will lie to a multi-million dollar donor. I may have made myself look like a fool before, and I hope I haven't given myself a bad name. I am just telling this as it is from what I heard from a donor. Please do not critize me, or make fun because I didn't make this up. :hi:
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It all sounds good if true,except the part of trooper taylor as OC. Maybe sideline cheerleader, but OC no.
 
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LIvol said:
If/When Fulmer leaves...

Does anyone understand that Bob Stoops makes 6.5 million dollars/year?

Coaches Salaries and Contracts

The REAL question has to be asked, of the TOP 50 paid coaches, whom is a product of location, and who will not be leaving for 5-6 million dollars/year.

IMO:

That leaves us with, Ferentz, Petrino, Tuberville, Rodriguez, Bowden, Mangino, Schiano, Belloti, Davis and Jones.
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Ferentz has been at Iowa for about a decade, & is coming off a 6-7, & 6-6 season. Not something we need at UT.

Petrino left the Falcons almost without notice last year, & just recieved the Arkansas job. Unless he wants to drag his name through the mud even more, he'll stay at Arkansas.

Bobby Bowden, the 78 year old who has been at FSU for 30+ years, or the Bowden who just was fired?

Tuberville is on the hotseat at Auburn, why exactly do we need to bring another struggling coach here?

Rich Rodriguez just left his alma mater for Michigan. Why would he come to Tennessee one year later?
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
I don't think a college that hires an NFL coach has to pay an NFL buyout. I suppose it depends on the terms of the contract, but I've never heard of that happening. I would like to see Gruden but I think it is totally unrealistic to think he would leave the NFL at this point. I am sticking by my choice of Muschamp. He is going to be the hfc at a BCS school in 2009 and I think it might as well be UTK. I realize he is a bit of a gamble but so is any coach. Even keeping Fulmer is a gamble if the goal is to win championships. There are no guarantees with anyone but I like Muchamp's pedigree in the Southeast and Southwest as well as his enthusiasm.
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I'll address the bold type first...

Keeping Fulmer is not a gamble, it's a fold. We know what we get with Phil Fulmer. The last ten years are proof positive. 'Nuff said about that.

Next, who's the new HC, if we get a new HC (and I think we will).

Mike Hamilton knows he has to hit a home run to replace Phil Fulmer. This absolutely HAS to be another "Pearl".

I think the search has already started, and I think there is most likely a "short list" of five to seven candidates. NFL and college level. Head coaches, and coordinators.

Prepare to be surprised, and then amazed at what the next HC does at Tennessee.

I think we'll get it right. And we'll be back in no more than two years.

go vols.
 
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Trooper Taylor doesn't even call his own plays at Okla St...Any time his name is brought up for ANYTHING I laugh....Ok that's harsh let me give him some credit.....He has a good vertical when chest bumping...There you go
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Trooper Taylor doesn't even call his own plays at Okla St...Any time his name is brought up for ANYTHING I laugh....Ok that's harsh let me give him some credit.....He has a good vertical when chest bumping...There you go
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Trooper is a great coach at motivating his players, and was a really great recruiter for us. He just didn't get his shot because of Fulmer, just like Clawson is not getting his shot now...:hi:
 
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Let's just hire Davis or Gruden and get this whole annoying coach chase over with. It's like looking for a job, so frustrating
 
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TNVol92 said:
Guys I apolgize for calling some of you guys stupid saying that Butch Davis will never come here. I was talking to one of my closest friends, which is a multi million donor and he gave me some very interesting information. He said that Hamilton has been in Chapel Hill last week talking to Butch Davis, and supposely offered him the job. He has also been in contact with Wil Muschamp to take over assistant coach/ Defensive cordinator. He also wants to do something like FSU did with Jim-Bo Fisher, making him the next head coach in line behind Davis. Hamilton has also told my friend donor that he has thought really hard of offering Trooper Taylor Offense Cordinator. Trooper really loved his job at UT and wants to come back for the right guy. Fulmer just did what he is doing with Clawson, not letting them call the plays they want to run, or play the players they want to play. He really wants to keep Clawson, but demote him to assistant OC/QB coach. There are 4 people on this years staff that he wants to stay on the staff. Fulmer will most likely be promoted to Assistant AD/ Football Operations, or if he wants to keep coaching, return him back as O-line coach. Hamilton has told the donors that this is what he wants, so if if goes through, then it is what it is, but if it doesn't then its not. You can believe it or not, but I don't think Hamilton will lie to a multi-million dollar donor. I may have made myself look like a fool before, and I hope I haven't given myself a bad name. I am just telling this as it is from what I heard from a donor. Please do not critize me, or make fun because I didn't make this up. :hi:
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this is so made up, i don't even know where to begin
 
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I honestly think that TT has what L. Scott can bring to the team, I don't know how timid he is in the coaching situation, especially coming in a package deal with Clawson and his lack of offense so far.

TT brought energy and knew how to break a WR down, in a dean-smith sense, taking the egos of major high school WRs and making them part of a team.

We need coaches who want to have fun and can make a team atmosphere, ALA Stoops and Carrol do in their respective programs.

Does a Gruden or NFL mind bring a fun collegiate atmosphere or does he bring a "NFL job" atmosphere. Coaches whom have come from NFL with that mindset are different then College coaches who thought they could excel in the NFL even though they had a college mentality have failed miserably as a majority, Yes Al Groh is winning, but as stated before the MAJORITY do fail.
 
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