Need impact recruits 2019 and beyond

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Both sides of the ball really, but esp OL, DL, and LBers. The last 2 impact players on Defense were Derek Barnett and A.J. Johnson, 4* recruits. Both wee aggressive, intimidating players, who were regarded as beasty boys many times. They made plays and we desperately need more of their kind.

I cannot think of a single impact player currently on the roster at this point. Many thought that Warrior might be, but he is closing out his junior year and really hasn't developed anything like his Dad, Dale Carter. He isn't built like Dale. For those who remember, Dale was broad shouldered and notably larger frame (upper body mass and strength). Not to slight Nigel, he just hasn't been the impact player that many hoped.

We don't lose much on the offensive side of the ball. We do lose 2 linemen on defense, but neither will be big losses. Tuttle and Philips have both been serviceable and steady starters, but I don't believe either of them were ever dominators at their positions. Do any of you recall them being all sec or alternates? I don't think so. Tuttle, of course, set back by serious injury twice.

It looks like the current commits at DL are Cox, Middleton, Simmons, Clemons and Harrison. Hope they stick and we add to that list. I wish we were size bigger. Know what I mean? One thing I noticed about MSU under Mullen. They didn't have a roster of big name recruits, but Mullen recruited big dudes. They never got pushed around against Bama and the likes. Not that they won, but their burly size never let them get dominated and they would make an opponent pay a physical price at the least. Seems they still do a year after Mullin departed. So if we fall short of getting every recruit we want, make sure the alternate choices have some real size and look like they really enjoyed physical contact in HS. Hopefully, size and the new S&C program makes us a team that nobody likes to play and can't be intimidated by size and physicality, at the very least.

If you remember A.J. and Derek, both of those players looked like they wanted to hit somebody when they lined up. That's because they did. A.J. would move up toward the line before the snap like he recognized what was coming and was going to maul whomever tried to do it. You need players like that on defense.
 
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Both sides of the ball really, but esp OL, DL, and LBers. The last 2 impact players on Defense were Derek Barnett and A.J. Johnson, 4* recruits. Both wee aggressive, intimidating players, who were regarded as beasty boys many times. They made plays and we desperately need more of their kind.

I cannot think of a single impact player currently on the roster at this point. Many thought that Warrior might be, but he is closing out his junior year and really hasn't developed anything like his Dad, Dale Carter. He isn't built like Dale. For those who remember, Dale was broad shouldered and notably larger frame (upper body mass and strength). Not to slight Nigel, he just hasn't been the impact player that many hoped.

We don't lose much on the offensive side of the ball. We do lose 2 linemen on defense, but neither will be big losses. Tuttle and Philips have both been serviceable and steady starters, but I don't believe either of them were ever dominators at their positions. Do any of you recall them being all sec or alternates? I don't think so. Tuttle, of course, set back by serious injury twice.

It looks like the current commits at DL are Cox, Middleton, Simmons, Clemons and Harrison. Hope they stick and we add to that list. I wish we were size bigger. Know what I mean? One thing I noticed about MSU under Mullen. They didn't have a roster of big name recruits, but Mullen recruited big dudes. They never got pushed around against Bama and the likes. Not that they won, but their burly size never let them get dominated and they would make an opponent pay a physical price at the least. Seems they still do a year after Mullin departed. So if we fall short of getting every recruit we want, make sure the alternate choices have some real size and look like they really enjoyed physical contact in HS. Hopefully, size and the new S&C program makes us a team that nobody likes to play and can't be intimidated by size and physicality, at the very least.

If you remember A.J. and Derek, both of those players looked like they wanted to hit somebody when they lined up. That's because they did. A.J. would move up toward the line before the snap like he recognized what was coming and was going to maul whomever tried to do it. You need players like that on defense.


Defensive Tackles should be our #1 goal. True monsters there make run of the mill LBers look like All SEC players.

Offensive lineman Tackles nd Guards. Personally I'd go the juco route here as these bodies need to be big and seasoned to compete.

Outside of these I'm not sure the need is as dire or important.
 
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We have a new plan to go after some Army All-American Game players.

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I cannot think of a single impact player currently on the roster at this point.

Im not sure this is going to age well.

We need a LOT more but there are a few currently on this roster, that if they keep progressing at the rate they currently are, will play on Sundays.
 
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Trenches. Until we have big uglies and nasties we will go nowhere. But, we wre so far behind, I am wondering how Pruitt can actually catch up. Maybe he needs to rock the grad transfers until we get the deoth we need.
 
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Defensive Tackles should be our #1 goal. True monsters there make run of the mill LBers look like All SEC players.

Offensive lineman Tackles nd Guards. Personally I'd go the juco route here as these bodies need to be big and seasoned to compete.

Outside of these I'm not sure the need is as dire or important.
DTs yes. But we also badly need DEs/OLBs that can pressure the QB. Throw in linebackers as well. Our linebacker play has been below average all year.
 
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I was told and taught the best way to build a team is start at the line and work outward on both sides of the ball.
The posters who have been mentioning oline and dline are needed most are right.
 
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DTs yes. But we also badly need DEs/OLBs that can pressure the QB. Throw in linebackers as well. Our linebacker play has been below average all year.

My belief is those monster DTs that demand double teams makes being an impact LB and DE much easier. Two great DTs can stuff a run game nearly by themself which makes the rest of the defense much freer to take risks.


So if I'm starting from scratch and have to choose to spend my time wooing any specific position player, the DTs are gonna get all my love
 
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I would put a couple off those true freshmen on the secondary down as impact guys. They aren’t in the trenches but corners are just as valuable.
 
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Number 1 need is OL and 1b is DL. In reality just a halfway decent OL gets us two more wins this season without any other changes.

DBs are pretty set and young. RBs are good is there is an OL, WRs are solid, LBs will be pretty deep next year. DTs, DEs and OL should be at least more than 1/2 of the recruiting this year. 13 slots in those 3 positions would be useful.
 

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