NCAA Will Hammer VOLS

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I believe this type of stuff to be true, even if this particular story isn't true. I also believe Pruitt and Bama were out to get back at UT for all of the drama from the 90s and what better way to do it than earn millions of dollars to sabotage UT and ensure that they stay down and suck, literally getting paid millions to do it. People call this a conspriacy theory. It's Bama we're talking about. They will literally do anything and everything to stay on top. Anything. Including, but not limited to, completely ruining other programs.
Been living in Bama for 40 years. Doesn't sound crazy there's some truth to this. Bamers hated Phil
 
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Thread starter doesn't have a freakin clue what they will do, I doubt they hammer them since they caught it and if they do the NCAA will have a lot of answering as to why LSU,North Carolina and Miami got nothing but a mere slap on the wrist when they caught them red handed. GBO!!!!
I'm not so sure about that. Mizzou got hit pretty hard when they self reported and cooperated with NCAA investigators where a single rogue tutor was doing work for student athletes. She wanted money and the school said to pound sand. Investigation led to confirmation it was 1 tutor, acting on her own, with no universtity staff complicit in the case. Result was bowl bans, recruiting restrictions, and scholarship redctions for football. Softball & baseball were also implicated.

Mizzou appealed, and the ruling was upheld.

The issue is that the investigation is run by a completely different arm of the NCAA than the arm/committee that issues punshiment on infractions. The infractions committee looks at it as a black/white type of situation...in Mizzou's case, "academic fraud" was committed, for which the punishment is "X". Zero consideration was given to the fact that University officials self reported the incident, and cooperated. Mizzou AD called BS on the NCAA, and basically said it's better off to deny, deny, deny, and force the NCAA to prove it.
 
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What happened to the NCAA losing all their power to decimate programs? Remember last trouble North Carolina was in and I think Miami too and the NCAA drug their feet for years. Don’t think I ever heard the penalties. At that point the power 5 were about to start their own association and tell them to suck it.
Now everyone is scared of them again?!
 
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YIKES. A lot of smoke in this post for there not to be at least some fire to go with it. Can't say I'm surprised. Pruitt learned some of his tactics at Georgia and Bama, he was just way too sloppy.
I'm not too happy with this hire; however, I firmly believe that the hammer is going to come down on UT. A place holder might be just what we need. I hope Pruitt winds up taking Georgia and Alabama down with him.
 
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From Dorsey - long - that he sent me from someone he knows!

From the DawgVent, guy says his buddy is a big Tenn booster who gave this info. Nothing earth-shattering or completely new, but a plausible summary.

Background Anecdote
A Vol beat writer (I’m leaving his name out) became a friend of Pruitt’s, who apparently had very few in Knoxville. A year or so back, he went to a golf tournament in Georgia with Pruitt and on the way back, Pruitt stopped at a bank to make a huge withdrawal. They and dropped it off with a contact to make direct payments throughout Georgia. Pruitt was paying these kids out of his own pocket in many instances. Beat writer obviously didn’t care too much, but was at pretty shocked at how brazen the Vols were being about. This story was told to my buddy by the writer.

Pay-for-Play

Niedermeyer and Pruitt were the ones paying players directly. Niedermeyer got sloppy and gave Brian Maurer his credit card to take recruits to a strip club. Brian got drunk and left the card there, so receipts were sent to Athletics to ensure they got paid.

News of the pay for play issues came out during TA&M week. To-oto-o and Eric Gray were told to to sit by compliance, but Pruitt said to hell with it, didn’t care about the compliance staff, and let them play. Pruitt laughed off compliance on multiple occasions apparently.

The reason the investigation happened is that Trey Smith's (OL) sister Ashley Smith, who is an Asst. AD for UT, heard a discussion between players and Niedermeyer about cash and informed a compliance officer. That officer had been getting **** on by Pruitt for not sitting players and heading warnings, so the officer went directly to Chancellor Donde instead of Pruitt or Fulmer, because Fulmer was also complicit. Donde proactively brought in the outside firm to try to mitigate the damage.

Fulmer was the confidential informant on Bama in 1995 which lead to their probation. This is why Bama has such intense disdain for Fulmer over everybody else. It's also this knowledge that lead UT to let him retire so they could pay his $1MM to keep his mouth shut.

UT has been trying to get Pruitt for cause since early in the season. They were trying to get him for not following COVID protocols, but couldn’t get anything to stick. Tee Martin leaked the investigation to the press because he hates Pruitt…context, Tee Martin was forced on Pruitt by Fulmer. Martin doesn’t actually coach, he just recruits and hangs out with players. He didn’t even show up to his first coaching meeting, and was found in his office asleep with Netflix on in the background. LOL. Pruitt hates him, and Tee hates Pruitt. Tee saw a chance to stick it to Pruitt in the public eye and did.

There have now been 50+ known major violations verified and rising.

Vols gonna get hammered
Remarkably lucid for something posted on Dawgvent. However, considering the source, I will probably wait for the official report before getting too worked up.
 
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Pruitt learned his trade at Bammer. I just wonder how much more the Dawgs had to spend on recruits.
I'm definitely not condoning it, but suspect none of the football programs are choir boys. It's very difficult to track handing out cash. Pruitt had to learn it somewhere that implemented it way better than he did.
 
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Regarding the NCAA, we self reported no matter whose version or sources you buy these days. The NCAA is unofficially on the record no more SMU death penalties. We'll offer up our own punishment the same way we self reported and the NCAA will approve.
 
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Doesn't matter if any of this crap is true, only matters if they can prove it happened.

Tennessee athletics is killing me. The NCAA has been the equivalent of Barney Fife win in comes to enforcement, but they're throw the book at us.
 
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From Dorsey - long - that he sent me from someone he knows!

From the DawgVent, guy says his buddy is a big Tenn booster who gave this info. Nothing earth-shattering or completely new, but a plausible summary.

Background Anecdote
A Vol beat writer (I’m leaving his name out) became a friend of Pruitt’s, who apparently had very few in Knoxville. A year or so back, he went to a golf tournament in Georgia with Pruitt and on the way back, Pruitt stopped at a bank to make a huge withdrawal. They and dropped it off with a contact to make direct payments throughout Georgia. Pruitt was paying these kids out of his own pocket in many instances. Beat writer obviously didn’t care too much, but was at pretty shocked at how brazen the Vols were being about. This story was told to my buddy by the writer.

Pay-for-Play

Niedermeyer and Pruitt were the ones paying players directly. Niedermeyer got sloppy and gave Brian Maurer his credit card to take recruits to a strip club. Brian got drunk and left the card there, so receipts were sent to Athletics to ensure they got paid.

News of the pay for play issues came out during TA&M week. To-oto-o and Eric Gray were told to to sit by compliance, but Pruitt said to hell with it, didn’t care about the compliance staff, and let them play. Pruitt laughed off compliance on multiple occasions apparently.

The reason the investigation happened is that Trey Smith's (OL) sister Ashley Smith, who is an Asst. AD for UT, heard a discussion between players and Niedermeyer about cash and informed a compliance officer. That officer had been getting **** on by Pruitt for not sitting players and heading warnings, so the officer went directly to Chancellor Donde instead of Pruitt or Fulmer, because Fulmer was also complicit. Donde proactively brought in the outside firm to try to mitigate the damage.

Fulmer was the confidential informant on Bama in 1995 which lead to their probation. This is why Bama has such intense disdain for Fulmer over everybody else. It's also this knowledge that lead UT to let him retire so they could pay his $1MM to keep his mouth shut.

UT has been trying to get Pruitt for cause since early in the season. They were trying to get him for not following COVID protocols, but couldn’t get anything to stick. Tee Martin leaked the investigation to the press because he hates Pruitt…context, Tee Martin was forced on Pruitt by Fulmer. Martin doesn’t actually coach, he just recruits and hangs out with players. He didn’t even show up to his first coaching meeting, and was found in his office asleep with Netflix on in the background. LOL. Pruitt hates him, and Tee hates Pruitt. Tee saw a chance to stick it to Pruitt in the public eye and did.

There have now been 50+ known major violations verified and rising.

Vols gonna get hammered
Wait......so BM left the card at the club. But instead of running the card to ensure they were paid, they sent receipts to the Athletic Dept.???? Lol
 
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I know things seem bad but I have a hard time believing NCAA will hammer a school for SELF-REPORTING. We have been open, honest, and cooperative so I feel like self-imposed sanctions will be upheld without further penalty. NCAA will hammer coaches directly involved with multi-year show causes. Just my deduction.
 

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