Navy Missile Hits Spy Satellite

[True_Fan]

Navy Missile Hits Spy Satellite

America, yeah!

WASHINGTON (AP) - A missile launched from a Navy ship successfully struck a dying U.S. spy satellite passing 130 miles over the Pacific on Wednesday, a defense official said. Full details were not immediately available.

It happened just after 10:30 p.m. EST.

 

[KCVolLaw]

it was our satellite

 

[True_Fan]

it was our satellite

no kidding:shades:

 

[KCVolLaw]

well saying America F yea made it sound like you thought we shot down someone else's satellite...

 

[True_Fan]

well saying America F yea made it sound like you thought we shot down someone else's satellite...

simple misunderstanding...I was going for the "Wow! that's a fairly impressive piece of shooting Tex" angle

 

[RockyTopEmpire]

Anyone else think the dang thing would have just burned up when it tried to enter the atmosphere? Just like everything else?

I think we just wanted to see if we could shoot one down, and let the world know we could.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Anyone else think the dang thing would have just burned up when it tried to enter the atmosphere? Just like everything else?

I think we just wanted to see if we could shoot one down, and let the world know we could.

Not with the shielding it had. It also had alot of toxic material that was a bigger concern.

 

[RockyTopEmpire]

Not with the shielding it had. It also had alot of toxic material that was a bigger concern.

ahhh, makes sense

 

[TennTradition]

I love the smell of hydrazine in the morning!

 

[SWIL]

I love the smell of hydrazine in the morning!

Smells like....an Arms Race

 

[KB5252]

Not with the shielding it had. It also had alot of toxic material that was a bigger concern.

They were also concerned that it may fall back to earth in the wrong area and somebody else might be able to retrieve and get some of our technology that might happen to survive re-entry intact. Rightfully so, it was a spy sattelite.

 

[TennTradition]

Well, at least we were able to use our missile defense system for something useful. I have very little confidence that the system will every successfully kill an even slightly sophisticated nuclear re-entry vehicle with a deployed decoy package...god forbid there ever be a need for it.

 

[SWIL]

Not with the shielding it had. It also had alot of toxic material that was a bigger concern.

No, that toxic fuel baloney is a paper thin cover up. We shot down that satellite in response to China's action of shooting their own sat. down last month, unannounced.

 

[TennTradition]

No, that toxic fuel baloney is a paper thin cover up. We shot down that satellite in response to China's action of shooting their own sat. down last month, unannounced.

Yeah...but we've already shot down a satellite with a fighter jet...I'm not sure why we had to use a sea-based missile as well just to prove that point. It does seem like it was a reasonably nice opportunity for them to flex some muscle, so they took it. The MDA also probably wanted some popular press for the missile defense system .... good way to get more $$.

 

[KentheOrange]

simple misunderstanding...I was going for the "Wow! that's a fairly impressive piece of shooting Tex" angle

My first reaction was that you were a 16 yo that hadn't learn to communicate with words containing more than four letters yet.

 

[True_Fan]

My first reaction was that you were a 16 yo that hadn't learn to communicate with words containing more than four letters yet.

That's what I get for trying to use a quote from "Team America: World Police"...juvenile humor from the creators of South Park...oh well...the nuances of the net :hi:

 

[True_Fan]

YouTube - Rogue Spy Satellite Blast

here's the vid

 

[SWIL]

That's what I get for trying to use a quote from "Team America: World Police"...juvenile humor from the creators of South Park...oh well...the nuances of the net :hi:

I got it, True Fan. You gotta watch out for all the geezers on here :whistling:

 

[crazyguy]

No, that toxic fuel baloney is a paper thin cover up. We shot down that satellite in response to China's action of shooting their own sat. down last month, unannounced.

exactly, we could predict within a couple of feet where it's deteriorating orbit would terminate....this was 100% about matching china.

 

[TennTradition]

exactly, we could predict within a couple of feet where it's deteriorating orbit would terminate....this was 100% about matching china.

In wobbling, low-altitude orbits, there is a certain non-deterministic characteristic to predicting where impact will be. So, I'm not certain how accurately we can predict an out of control re-entry. We can, however, predict a probability distribution of likely impact, and we may have not liked those results with regard to potential for theft of technology (doubtful) or public harm (possible).

With that said, the MDA wanted some good publicity and we wanted to REMIND China that we too can take out satellites. We've already shown that we are capable of doing this in the past with an air-launched missile.

 

[crazyguy]

In wobbling, low-altitude orbits, there is a certain non-deterministic characteristic to predicting where impact will be. So, I'm not certain how accurately we can predict an out of control re-entry. We can, however, predict a probability distribution of likely impact, and we may have not liked those results with regard to potential for theft of technology (doubtful) or public harm (possible).

With that said, the MDA wanted some good publicity and we wanted to REMIND China we're too can take out satellites. We've already shown that we are capable of doing this in the past with an air-launched missile.

I didn't realize that it was in an unstable orbit at this point, I just thought it was in a degrading orbit....that would make the error a bit larger. Regardless, I think that this was a finger in the eye of china. They blew it up and didn't leave the waste in the atmosphere like the chinese.

 

[True_Fan]

In wobbling, low-altitude orbits, there is a certain non-deterministic characteristic to predicting where impact will be. So, I'm not certain how accurately we can predict an out of control re-entry. We can, however, predict a probability distribution of likely impact, and we may have not liked those results with regard to potential for theft of technology (doubtful) or public harm (possible).

With that said, the MDA wanted some good publicity and we wanted to REMIND China we're too can take out satellites. We've already shown that we are capable of doing this in the past with an air-launched missile.

yes...and other interested parties as well...Russia has been stretching their wings as of late...testing Japan and our Carriers with occasional flybys...we do this as well but Russia has raised their level publicly...an arms race (conventional or otherwise) is always on searching and spotting the latest advantage for or against us...this gave us the event to "show off"

 

[TennTradition]

I didn't realize that it was in an unstable orbit at this point, I just thought it was in a degrading orbit....that would make the error a bit larger. Regardless, I think that this was a finger in the eye of china. They blew it up and didn't leave the waste in the atmosphere like the chinese.

I'm pretty sure that it was an unstable, low-altitude orbit. Since we couldn't push it into re-entry because it was out of communication, then this seemed like a good way to "control" its fate . I don't think that we would have done this had it been a higher-altitude orbit like the satellite the Chinese shot down because of the debris you're talking about. We generated just as much debris, our will just quickly re-enter. I think the numbers are 50% within the first 24 hours and the rest over the next 40 days or so.

 

[TennTradition]

yes...and other interested parties as well...Russia has been stretching their wings as of late...testing Japan and our Carriers with occasional flybys...we do this as well but Russia has raised their level publicly...an arms race (conventional or otherwise) is always on searching and spotting the latest advantage for or against us...this gave us the event to "show off"

The funny thing is that this test does very little to "show off" as far as missile defense goes. This was kind of like hitting a sitting duck relative to nuclear warheads with decoy packages.

 

[crazyguy]

I'm pretty sure that it was an unstable, low-altitude orbit. Since we couldn't push it into re-entry because it was out of communication, then this seemed like a good way to "control" its fate . I don't think that we would have done this had it been a higher-altitude orbit like the satellite the Chinese shot down because of the debris you're talking about. We generated just as much debris, our will just quickly re-enter. I think the numbers are 50% within the first 24 hours and the rest over the next 40 days or so.

right, I think it's the debris that ticked most people off about the china episode, it's not going anywhere and is quite a hazard with the paper thin walls of the space equipment out there.