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successful NFL head coaches in the last 25 years that have moved down to the college level and been a success. Success defined as 10-11 win seasons at a division I program and/or appearances in BCS. (you can not include Saban or Spurrier as they were successful college coaches that flopped in the NFL and came back)

I can think of two:

1) Pete Carroll (but left w/ NCAA violations)
2) that guy from Hawaii but he coached at Hawaii...
 
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how many nfl head coaches have moved down to the college level in 25 years? i aint seen too many. and the ones that did probably weren't real good or theyd still be with the pros.
 
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Orange81 said:
how many nfl head coaches have moved down to the college level in 25 years? i aint seen too many. and the ones that did probably weren't real good or theyd still be with the pros.
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This is exactly the reason. Generally, moving down to college is considered a downgrade.

Name me 5 good college coaches in the past 25 years that have moved down to high school and been successful.
 
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How many successful NFL head coaches have come to the college ranks? I can't think of any. Carroll was mediocre at New England.

That said, wouldn't you rather have a successful NFL coach than one who wasn't successful? Furthermore, wouldn't you rather have a guy who won a Super Bowl than a guy who couldn't win the WAC.
 
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driscokid said:
successful NFL head coaches in the last 25 years that have moved down to the college level and been a success. Success defined as 10-11 win seasons at a division I program and/or appearances in BCS. (you can not include Saban or Spurrier as they were successful college coaches that flopped in the NFL and came back)

I can think of two:

1) Pete Carroll (but left w/ NCAA violations)
2) that guy from Hawaii but he coached at Hawaii...
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If they are successful in the NFL, why would they move down to the Collegiate level?

But, seriously, I cannot name 5.
I can name 5, including Spurrier and Saban. But they are not allowed.

Carroll, Former HC of Hawaii, Dave W(Former HC of Pitt), Spurrier and Saban.
 
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It's a loaded question.

Not many successful nfl coaches bother to leave the nfl to coach in college.

There are only a few who have actually done both.

Bill walsh and john robinson are the only two i can think of who were successful at both.

Maybe dennis green too
 
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Jimmy Johnson - Good at Miami and Dallas
Jimmy Switzer - Good at Oklahoma and Dallas
Pete Carraol - Good at USC and Seattle
Bill Parcels - Started in College Coaching
Bill Walsch - Good at Stanford and 49ers


Next!!!
 
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99gator said:
It's a loaded question.

Not many successful nfl coaches bother to leave the nfl to coach in college.

There are only a few who have actually done both.

Bill walsh and john robinson are the only two i can think of who were successful at both.

Maybe dennis green too
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Tha't my point with all this Gruden stuff...
 
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99gator said:
It's a loaded question.

Not many successful nfl coaches bother to leave the nfl to coach in college.

There are only a few who have actually done both.

Bill walsh and john robinson are the only two i can think of who were successful at both.

Maybe dennis green too
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Jimmy Johnson?
 
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Spawn said:
Jimmy Johnson - Good at Miami and Dallas
Jimmy Switzer - Good at Oklahoma and Dallas
Pete Carraol - Good at USC and Seattle
Bill Parcels - Started in College Coaching
Bill Walsch - Good at Stanford and 49ers


Next!!!
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wrong direction...
 
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Spawn said:
Jimmy Johnson - Good at Miami and Dallas
Jimmy Switzer - Good at Oklahoma and Dallas
Pete Carraol - Good at USC and Seattle
Bill Parcels - Started in College Coaching
Bill Walsch - Good at Stanford and 49ers


Next!!!
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Too early to throw in John Harbough? I know he moved from college to NFL, but I don't think the order of the success is relevant.
 
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And I hate to be a negavol cuz i believe in Dooley, but i doubt a whole bunch of coaches had loosing records in the WaC and then went up and did real well. i still think he's a diamond in the rought though.
 
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driscokid said:
Tha't my point with all this Gruden stuff...
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Not a good point. It's not like Gruden has to do everything when he comes to Tennessee. He will have subordinate coaches. What he will do well is the following.

Recruit - With superbowl wins, NFL experience, and expert with QBs, recruits will want to play for him because he can get them to the NFL and he knows what it takes to be good in the NFL

Tradition - He knows about UT and the tradition

Discipline - He is effing CHUCKY. Enough said
 
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Thrasher865 said:
That only matters if you're an idiot. So you're saying it's perfectly reasonable to expect someone to be successful at both, but not if they start in the NFL and move down?
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They are just haters to the core. They want any reason to disagree, don't worry about it.
 
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Neylandsmaxims said:
If they are successful in the NFL, why would they move down to the Collegiate level?

But, seriously, I cannot name 5.
I can name 5, including Spurrier and Saban. But they are not allowed.

Carroll, Former HC of Hawaii, Dave W(Former HC of Pitt), Spurrier and Saban.
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Saban and Spurrier were successful? Both had sub .500 records. Each only lasted 2 years.

Dave Wannstedt and June Jones also have losing records in the pros.
 
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By the way, dont beat around the bush.

Say what you mean. You dont think gruden would win in college.

I think he could.

I know I'd have nore concern about him on Tennessee 's sideline than dooley
 
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Spawn said:
Jimmy Johnson - Good at Miami and Dallas
Jimmy Switzer - Good at Oklahoma and Dallas
Pete Carraol - Good at USC and Seattle
Bill Parcels - Started in College Coaching
Bill Walsch - Good at Stanford and 49ers


Next!!!
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Out of all that, how did you spell "Switzer" correctly (and it's Barry) and misspell just about everyone else?
 
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I would think that NFL coaches are better pure coaches. At the collegiate level a big part of being sucdcessful is stockpiling talent, and most times you are able to out-talent other teams. At the NFL the draft system is designed to keep the playing field level from year to year. Coaches that are consistently successful in that system are really coaching.

Its rare that a coach is good at both. I would say somebody like Saban is a recruiter first and coach second. If he doesn't have the most talented team on the field he doesn't win as consistently. See Miami, and his first year at Bama. Not saying he is a bad coach, not by any means, but on a playing field with equal talent at every position he doesn't look nearly as good as he does now.
 
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Jestes311 said:
Fail.
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Not a fail. This whole thread is geared to say Gruden wouldn't be good in college. All I showed is that their have been coaches good at the NFL and College. Gruden would be the same.

Come up with better Shi.. Next time.
 
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