My take on the Cal game

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Defeat is never easy to swallow, especially when it's unexpected. I went to California this weekend fully expecting a Tennessee win. Not a blow-out by any means -- as both teams had pressing questions on both sides of the ball -- but a win. My Saturday night ended in Volun-tears.

I cried for a number of reasons, pride not being the least of those. But I also cried because, despite all our tradition, our six national championships and one of the best coaching staffs in the country, we lost to only the second best team in a vastly overrated conference. I won't make excuses for this loss, though. We were beaten solidly.

Watching the Vols struggle defensively is a novelty for those of us who have followed the team in the Fulmer-Chavis era. If anything, our shortcomings have always been offensive. This game, however, was very different. The offensive was explosive, despite and admittedly ruckus crowd in Cal's modest little stadium. I like the new no huddle offensive scheme; it works well in such environments and Angie remained poised and, for the most part, accurate. The holes in the defense were gaping. It appeared from my vantage point that the size on the line has decreased substantially this year, as has the speed. Not once did I see any pressure on Longshore. The rush defense was virtually non-existent and the secondary lacked the speed to defend against deep passes. All in all, despite our surprisingly good offense (I didn't expect such efficiency with our losses at WR and on the offensive line) our offense appeared as though it had been borrowed from a D-II school, and a bad one at that.

Special teams were equally horrendous. The punting, returning and kickoffs speak for themselves. This is an area that needs to be addressed immediately.

Cal shouldn't be so proud of this loss. They manhandled a very second-rate defense. I suspect that if we play that sort of D in the SEC, we can expect 45 points scored against us by halftime. I certainly wouldn't try this against the likes of Florida and LSU. No doubt Cal's offense is efficient, but I don't believe it's nearly as good as it appeared last night. Sadly, the next time they play a defense worth noting is again USC, which I fully expect to blow them out, as Cal's defense is nearly as horrendous as ours.

The whole game was like a comedy or errors, on both sides. While the D lines were falling all over themselves, missing tackles and generally being useless, both Longshore and Ainge had ample time to pass without any pressure. Receivers had too many breakaway plays that were complete gimmes. Too few runs got stopped when they should have been. After a while, it was almost funny to watch these two defenses struggle to complete basic defensive plays in elementary defensive schemes.

What didn't make me laugh was the insufferable disrespect and apathy displayed by the Cal student section and the Cal band when Xavier Mitchell was injured late in the fourth quarter. As he was lying motionless on the ground and the medical techs were preparing to stap him to a stretcher and take him for emergency treatment to the nearest hospital, the Cal fans gloated in their impending victory by yelling out coordinated cheers such as "Roll on you bears!," "Go Bears." This was not just general chatter in the student section -- this was outright, coordinated gleeful cheering. And to make it worse, the Cal Band joined in by playing their fight song, all while our player remained injured and on the field. Now I don't know much about Pac-10 football and this was the first game I ever attended at Cal, but having been to my share of games in the SEC, I know that Volunteer fans would never sing Rocky Top or cheer out "V-O-L-S, V-O-L-S, V-O-L-S, Go, Vols, Go!" when another team's player is injured on the field, especially when he appears completely imobile. As an alum of both Cal and Tennessee, I was thoroughly embarassed by my late alma mater's behavior at this game.

We Vols might need to adjust our defense, but Cal has more than their defense to tweak; this arrogant and disrespectful program needs a serious attitude adjustment.
 
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Nice post. Yes I was mad as hell when the Cal fans were chanting while Xavier looked half dead on the field.
 
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Nice post. Yes I was mad as hell when the Cal fans were chanting while Xavier looked half dead on the field.

I intend to write a letter to the Berkeley AD, their band director and the student newspaper. Perhaps I'll CC to the Daily Beacon.
 
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I apologize on behalf of the west coast, because we are a bunch of classless heathens that wouldn't know good football if it hit us upside the head.

Did it ever strike you, during any point of the whooping that we took, that we may still be an okay team in the SEC, that Cal was simply better, and that Pac-10 football *might* not be as bush league as you claim?

Of course, if you're right, and the Pac-10 is just a conference of glorified mid-majors with a-hole fans, and we got shown up by their 2nd-best team... Well, I suppose we're staring directly at LAST PLACE in the SEC East.
 
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I apologize on behalf of the west coast, because we are a bunch of classless heathens that wouldn't know good football if it hit us upside the head.

Did it ever strike you, during any point of the whooping that we took, that we may still be an okay team in the SEC, that Cal was simply better, and that Pac-10 football *might* not be as bush league as you claim?

Of course, if you're right, and the Pac-10 is just a conference of glorified mid-majors with a-hole fans, and we got shown up by their 2nd-best team... Well, I suppose we're staring directly at LAST PLACE in the SEC East.
I think that this is a much-needed reality check for our defense. We simply aren't used to being deficient on D, so they probably aren't used to making it a top priority in terms of the areas the team must work on. This year the roles have reversed and our offense actually has the potential of being quite potent. If D steps up, we can still take SEC east. I didn't see a shortage of talent. Rather it was mostly execution problems, probably stemming from lack of experience. Chavis should be able to get enough done to give us a realistic shot at Florida in a few weeks.

But bottom line is, Cal took advantage of a young and very bad defense. I don't think they'll fare the same for the rest of the season.
 
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Talked to a team manager last night that said that Mitchell was taken to the hospital. They were all getting ready to fly back right after the game, so my guess is Mitchell stayed behind. I'll hit up some of my old contacts and see if I can get anything more recent and specific.
 
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I apologize on behalf of the west coast, because we are a bunch of classless heathens that wouldn't know good football if it hit us upside the head.

Did it ever strike you, during any point of the whooping that we took, that we may still be an okay team in the SEC, that Cal was simply better, and that Pac-10 football *might* not be as bush league as you claim?

Of course, if you're right, and the Pac-10 is just a conference of glorified mid-majors with a-hole fans, and we got shown up by their 2nd-best team... Well, I suppose we're staring directly at LAST PLACE in the SEC East.

I think LSU, FL, and GA are better then Cal. They would finish 4th in the SEC at best.
 
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Talked to a team manager last night that said that Mitchell was taken to the hospital. They were all getting ready to fly back right after the game, so my guess is Mitchell stayed behind. I'll hit up some of my old contacts and see if I can get anything more recent and specific.

According to CPF this morning on his show, Mitchell flew back with the team.
 
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I think LSU, FL, and GA are better then Cal. They would finish 4th in the SEC at best.
Did I say they would win it?

Just consider that the gap between the SEC and everybody else (Pac-10 included) might not be as wide as most think.
 
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Defeat is never easy to swallow, especially when it's unexpected. I went to California this weekend fully expecting a Tennessee win. Not a blow-out by any means -- as both teams had pressing questions on both sides of the ball -- but a win. My Saturday night ended in Volun-tears.

I cried for a number of reasons, pride not being the least of those. But I also cried because, despite all our tradition, our six national championships and one of the best coaching staffs in the country, we lost to only the second best team in a vastly overrated conference. I won't make excuses for this loss, though. We were beaten solidly.

Watching the Vols struggle defensively is a novelty for those of us who have followed the team in the Fulmer-Chavis era. If anything, our shortcomings have always been offensive. This game, however, was very different. The offensive was explosive, despite and admittedly ruckus crowd in Cal's modest little stadium. I like the new no huddle offensive scheme; it works well in such environments and Angie remained poised and, for the most part, accurate. The holes in the defense were gaping. It appeared from my vantage point that the size on the line has decreased substantially this year, as has the speed. Not once did I see any pressure on Longshore. The rush defense was virtually non-existent and the secondary lacked the speed to defend against deep passes. All in all, despite our surprisingly good offense (I didn't expect such efficiency with our losses at WR and on the offensive line) our offense appeared as though it had been borrowed from a D-II school, and a bad one at that.

Special teams were equally horrendous. The punting, returning and kickoffs speak for themselves. This is an area that needs to be addressed immediately.

Cal shouldn't be so proud of this loss. They manhandled a very second-rate defense. I suspect that if we play that sort of D in the SEC, we can expect 45 points scored against us by halftime. I certainly wouldn't try this against the likes of Florida and LSU. No doubt Cal's offense is efficient, but I don't believe it's nearly as good as it appeared last night. Sadly, the next time they play a defense worth noting is again USC, which I fully expect to blow them out, as Cal's defense is nearly as horrendous as ours.

The whole game was like a comedy or errors, on both sides. While the D lines were falling all over themselves, missing tackles and generally being useless, both Longshore and Ainge had ample time to pass without any pressure. Receivers had too many breakaway plays that were complete gimmes. Too few runs got stopped when they should have been. After a while, it was almost funny to watch these two defenses struggle to complete basic defensive plays in elementary defensive schemes.

What didn't make me laugh was the insufferable disrespect and apathy displayed by the Cal student section and the Cal band when Xavier Mitchell was injured late in the fourth quarter. As he was lying motionless on the ground and the medical techs were preparing to stap him to a stretcher and take him for emergency treatment to the nearest hospital, the Cal fans gloated in their impending victory by yelling out coordinated cheers such as "Roll on you bears!," "Go Bears." This was not just general chatter in the student section -- this was outright, coordinated gleeful cheering. And to make it worse, the Cal Band joined in by playing their fight song, all while our player remained injured and on the field. Now I don't know much about Pac-10 football and this was the first game I ever attended at Cal, but having been to my share of games in the SEC, I know that Volunteer fans would never sing Rocky Top or cheer out "V-O-L-S, V-O-L-S, V-O-L-S, Go, Vols, Go!" when another team's player is injured on the field, especially when he appears completely imobile. As an alum of both Cal and Tennessee, I was thoroughly embarassed by my late alma mater's behavior at this game.

We Vols might need to adjust our defense, but Cal has more than their defense to tweak; this arrogant and disrespectful program needs a serious attitude adjustment.

Good post. I agree with just about everything you said but I do think that Cal could pan out to be a good team this year. Those guys and USC are good teams, period, in any conference. Not an excuse for our play however, we were an embarrassment on defense and special teams, and I'm still waiting to see offensive playmakers develop from these highly regarded recruiting classes.
 
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I think our offense played well enough to win the game.

we got to put some starters in on Kickoff coverage, it seemed like they started on the 45 or fifty everytime.

Our front 4 didnt get any pressure on Longshore, after 3 or 4 series of getting picked apart you would think they might call a blitz or two.


:vava:
 
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Did I say they would win it?

Just consider that the gap between the SEC and everybody else (Pac-10 included) might not be as wide as most think.

the PAC-10 has 10 teams. only 1 has proven dominant over an SEC opponent and another has proven to be dominant 50% of the time. it's an absolute fact that the rest of the teams in that conference are craptastic and the conference as a whole is nowhere near SEC level.
 
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the PAC-10 has 10 teams. only 1 has proven dominant over an SEC opponent and another has proven to be dominant 50% of the time. it's an absolute fact that the rest of the teams in that conference are craptastic and the conference as a whole is nowhere near SEC level.
Right...

Well, I know USC tends to stand out, and it's apparent that their recent games against Arkansas and Auburn, along with ours against Cal, are the only memories you have of Pac-10 teams competing directly against SEC teams.

'04: Oregon State plays in Baton Rouge against Nick Saban's LSU team and loses by one point, due to a freak happening of a couple missed extra points. LSU goes on to post a 6-2 record in the SEC. Oregon State goes on to post a 5-3 record in the Pac-10.

'05: Arizona State plays in Baton Rouge against Les Miles' LSU team, and loses by 4 points by a miracle on the part of Jamarcus Russell and crew. ASU put an astounding 560 yards on the usually-vaunted LSU defense. LSU went on to a 7-2 SEC record an SEC West championship, while Arizona State posted a 4-4 record in the Pac-10, including a loss to Stanford.

Back to last night. Um... I know our reaction time was bad, but did we magically get slower? I can guaran-damn-tee you that Cal and USC are not the only ones in the Pac with that kind of speed.

By the way, ladies and gentlemen... I'm schooling you guys on the facts of the national college football scene! That means football season has officially arrived! I love this time of year!
 
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Right...

Well, I know USC tends to stand out, and it's apparent that their recent games against Arkansas and Auburn, along with ours against Cal, are the only memories you have of Pac-10 teams competing directly against SEC teams.

'04: Oregon State plays in Baton Rouge against Nick Saban's LSU team and loses by one point, due to a freak happening of a couple missed extra points. LSU goes on to post a 6-2 record in the SEC. Oregon State goes on to post a 5-3 record in the Pac-10.

'05: Arizona State plays in Baton Rouge against Les Miles' LSU team, and loses by 4 points by a miracle on the part of Jamarcus Russell and crew. ASU put an astounding 560 yards on the usually-vaunted LSU defense. LSU went on to a 7-2 SEC record an SEC West championship, while Arizona State posted a 4-4 record in the Pac-10, including a loss to Stanford.

Back to last night. Um... I know our reaction time was bad, but did we magically get slower? I can guaran-damn-tee you that Cal and USC are not the only ones in the Pac with that kind of speed.

By the way, ladies and gentlemen... I'm schooling you guys on the facts of the national college football scene! That means football season has officially arrived! I love this time of year!

As my degrees already reflect, I've got all the schooling I can handle. That fact notwithstanding, how exactly is what happened in 04 and 05 relevant to whether today's PAC-10 is better than today's SEC?
 
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Well, a team that I can see finishing 4th or 5th in the SEC got manhandled by a team I see finishing 3rd in the Pac-10. Doesn't sound like miles apart in talent to me.
 
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Right...

Well, I know USC tends to stand out, and it's apparent that their recent games against Arkansas and Auburn, along with ours against Cal, are the only memories you have of Pac-10 teams competing directly against SEC teams.

'04: Oregon State plays in Baton Rouge against Nick Saban's LSU team and loses by one point, due to a freak happening of a couple missed extra points. LSU goes on to post a 6-2 record in the SEC. Oregon State goes on to post a 5-3 record in the Pac-10.

'05: Arizona State plays in Baton Rouge against Les Miles' LSU team, and loses by 4 points by a miracle on the part of Jamarcus Russell and crew. ASU put an astounding 560 yards on the usually-vaunted LSU defense. LSU went on to a 7-2 SEC record an SEC West championship, while Arizona State posted a 4-4 record in the Pac-10, including a loss to Stanford.

Back to last night. Um... I know our reaction time was bad, but did we magically get slower? I can guaran-damn-tee you that Cal and USC are not the only ones in the Pac with that kind of speed.

By the way, ladies and gentlemen... I'm schooling you guys on the facts of the national college football scene! That means football season has officially arrived! I love this time of year!

Everyone remembers those games. Oregon State and Arizona State had their best games of the season. LSU had its worst game of the season both times. The Tigers still won.
 
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Well, a team that I can see finishing 4th or 5th in the SEC got manhandled by a team I see finishing 3rd in the Pac-10. Doesn't sound like miles apart in talent to me.

We didn't get manhandled nearly as bad as Cal got it last year when the Vols were 6th in the SEC and Cal was 2nd in the Pac-10.
 
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Everyone remembers those games. Oregon State and Arizona State had their best games of the season. LSU had its worst game of the season both times. The Tigers still won.
Shouldn't matter... The SEC is a lot better, right? And LSU is always one of the 2-3 best in the SEC, right? The results are what they are.

We didn't get manhandled nearly as bad as Cal got it last year when the Vols were 6th in the SEC and Cal was 2nd in the Pac-10.
I got one word for you: Mismatch. I still maintain, like I have for a year now, that our blowout win can be attributed to our really good WR's facing off against their unusually poor d-backs. Tedford did not get to do what he wanted to do last year. He did this year.
 
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As a Cal grad living in SEC country, I would love to keep playing you guys to prove year in and year out that we can compete and win at least half the time. Guess it depends on which stadium the game is being played, right?

Maybe we'll get our next chance to show off our speed to the SEC against LSU in January in the Superdome...Who knows? Crazier things have happened.:crazy:

Hats off to a great UT program. Maybe one day Cal will have the kind of history (and websites) that you all have.:hi:
 

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