My crow eating thread…

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Volador said:
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I want to comment on this statement. I know some have already said it but you are now seeing players that have been coached up. My ole my what a difference a well coached team can look like. I am super proud that our defense won that game Saturday. I know the offense is good, but it’s about time our defense gets some credit for a win. That will only intensify them game after game. That was really the kind of game we needed. Let’s get through Akron and I am super pumped for the Florida game!! #govols
 
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walkenvol said:
If all they’re drafting on is 40 time and arm strength then Milton will be the first qb taken when he enters the draft?
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On field production also matters to a degree. But what they see on tape doesn't always translate to the stat sheet.

And while he's unlikely to get drafted at this point, I would be willing to bet Milton spends some time in the NFL at least on a practice squad. If JG and Nathan Peterman can bounce around the league, I feel confident Milton can too with his athleticism.
 
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OrangeVolMan said:
We are not talking about the NFL, we are talking about college. Hooker is a better college QB than Levis. You can’t project from college to the pros just ask Ryan Leaf or Johnny ManzI’ll for example. So i will stick with Hooker being a better college QB and would not trade him for Levis.
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I'm did not say he is a better college QB. The question was asked why Levis was considered a 1st rounder. I answered it.
 
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chattavol420 said:
Ok Aaron Beasley…I’ll take my crow with a bit of hot sauce. And I’ll smile with every bite because I didn’t want him to not be good. But last year I was disappointed and I’ve been vocal about that here. 2 things…for one my greatest source of frustration with him originated when we played Kentucky. Will Levi’s owned him that day. He went over the top of Beasley for additional yardage what seemed like 39 times in that game. Realistically it was probably like 5-7 times but they all came in crucial situations. While I was super frustrated with Beasley’s lack of physicality…I also underestimated Levi’s size and strength. Having watched him a bit more he’s not the Awkward/unathletic big quarterback I thought I was seeing that day. He’s a load. So I definitely aimed my frustration completely at Beasley when some of it should have been redirected as respect for Levis.

But also, Beasley has just stepped up his game exponentially. His improvement is undeniably and he straight out looks like a stud linebacker out there. I was about as wrong as I could be about the kid and again…it makes me happy to have been wrong.

Hopefully mods leave this thread up for a bit because a handful of y’all argued with me that Beasley wasn’t as bad as I had been saying etc. So take your best shots at me. I deserve it. Hit me like Aaron Beasley hits Kedon Slovis.
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I took a lot of shots for saying Levi is good. Glad you admitted that in this thread. You weren't expecting that shot were ya? 🤣 I don't think you were the only person disappointed with our LBs last year. Banks' numbers are turning out to also be what I have suggested. Now that he has help, his numbers aren't insane. I can't wait to see how Mitchell mixes up with these two? Who are our other LBs that are seeing snaps?
 
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Volmac2022 said:
I understand your frustration from last year and imo it was rightfully so. I still don't see why people think Will Levis is a first rounder
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The announcer said Saturday,”he has the mentality of a linebacker”.
I think he meant it as a compliment but that’s his problem, if he had a QB mentality he might be a first rounder.
 
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If you look back at Aaron's high school tapes,this guy is a "thumper".He will flat out put something on you soap won't take off.This year,he has learned where to be and is not so lost converting to lb from db.I hope the rest of this year,he only gets better.GBO.
 
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Beasley's emergence should make all the other LB play better. He is controlling an area of the field like a good LB.
We all hear how great everyone is in practice each season and take it with a grain of salt.
It is amazing when they show up and deliver in a Big Game.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Beasley kind of got a raw deal when he came here. He was too big and slow to play safety, which is what he played in HS (and Rb for that matter). Pruitt moved him to LB his freshman year then commenced to not teaching his jack squat except that cornbread is good.

He was rushed into service last season with very little training or development due to poor LB recruiting and transfers following Cornbread. He went thru some really bad growing pains last year, but I thought he got better as the season went along. I was one of the folks defending him because I felt like if he had a couple years of good coaching, he could grow into an SEC linebacker. I also thought he would be a surprise this season.

I was finally right about something. I have taken a picture to document that so I can show my wife that I was finally right about something.
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Yup. Experience, nothing like it, especially playing linebacker in the SEC. Every OC will call plays figuring out what you can and can’t do well and expose your weaknesses until you clean them up. For Beasley it was never about his talent or ability it was time on the field.
 
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Carp said:
On field production also matters to a degree. But what they see on tape doesn't always translate to the stat sheet.

And while he's unlikely to get drafted at this point, I would be willing to bet Milton spends some time in the NFL at least on a practice squad. If JG and Nathan Peterman can bounce around the league, I feel confident Milton can too with his athleticism.
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To be honest, Milton should be starting somewhere and slinging it all over the field w some qb draws. He needs reps and confidence. That guy has unlimited potential.
 
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Carp said:
But it isn't only about on field stats. That's why Trey Lance went No 3 overall a couple years back.

Look, Hendon is great, but Levi's is most certainly a tick above him talent wise. Like I said, Levi's has probably the strongest arm in the draft. And both guys run at roughly the same speed in the 4.7 40 time range. And that isn't just my opinion, but the opinion of most talent evaluators. Also, Hooker runs an offense that doesn't translate well to NFL offenses, so he will take some time to development. He also needs to bulk up, as his current frame is very lean for an NFL QB.
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That's definitely your opinion imo opinion I'd take a qb that has a better TD/ INT ratio and that's Hendon.
 
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DougVol said:
To be honest, Milton should be starting somewhere and slinging it all over the field w some qb draws. He needs reps and confidence. That guy has unlimited potential.
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Honesty or not, I asked Joe what he thought about your idea. He said,"I say it loud, I'm a Vol and I'm proud."
 

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Carp said:
But it isn't only about on field stats. That's why Trey Lance went No 3 overall a couple years back.

Look, Hendon is great, but Levi's is most certainly a tick above him talent wise. Like I said, Levi's has probably the strongest arm in the draft. And both guys run at roughly the same speed in the 4.7 40 time range. And that isn't just my opinion, but the opinion of most talent evaluators. Also, Hooker runs an offense that doesn't translate well to NFL offenses, so he will take some time to development. He also needs to bulk up, as his current frame is very lean for an NFL QB.
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Who are the talent evaluator?
 
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Carp said:
I'm did not say he is a better college QB. The question was asked why Levis was considered a 1st rounder. I answered it.
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You offered your opinion....the question will be answered draft day.
 
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Volmac2022 said:
That's definitely your opinion imo opinion I'd take a qb that has a better TD/ INT ratio and that's Hendon.
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Not really an opinion. Someone asked why Levis was being considered as a 1sr round QB. I answered why. And it's literally Google-able too. You may disagree with the talent evaluations. That's fine. Many people do. That doesn't change the reason why he's being considered a 1st round pick.
 
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Mccage said:
You offered your opinion....the question will be answered draft day.
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Except that isn't my opinion. I pulled the info directly from multiple sources on why THEY have him rated so highly. The poster wanted to know why Levis was being considered as a 1st round pick. I literally posted the info on why THEY are considering him as a 1st round pick. Those opinions are not my own. You don't have to agree with the analysts. That's perfectly fine. Draft analysts are wrong plenty of times. That doesn't change why THEY are projecting him as a 1st round pick.

The only opinion I've really offered is that I believe Levis Is a tick above Hendon talent wise. That's primarily due to his elite arm strength.
 
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Carp said:
Except that isn't my opinion. I pulled the info directly from multiple sources on why THEY have him rated so highly. The poster wanted to know why Levis was being considered as a 1st round pick. I literally posted the info on why THEY are considering him as a 1st round pick. Those opinions are not my own. You don't have to agree with the analysts. That's perfectly fine. Draft analysts are wrong plenty of times. That doesn't change why THEY are projecting him as a 1st round pick.

The only opinion I've really offered is that I believe Levis Is a tick above Hendon talent wise. That's primarily due to his elite arm strength.
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Fair enough
 
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