My big problem is Butch knew Vandy was good enough to win!

[BigOrangeTrain]

Shoop's issue isn't because of him. It's more Butch not allowing him to bring in his guys and not fully run his system.


Which is a big reason that Shoop isn't the biggest Butch fan

I was thinking this the other day. I am upset with Shoop but I said to myself, whatbare the chances that Bob Shoop just all of a sudden forgot how to coach a defense? Highly unlikely is the answer. I agree with you. Butch is way to controlling. I have said Butch and Shoop need to have a Ditka/Ryan type relationship.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Martinez made Shoop and Jancek look like Sunseri

Has anyone heard anything about Martinez being replaced? How about Mahoney?

 

[508mikey]

Has anyone heard anything about Martinez being replaced? How about Mahoney?

cant be soon enough for both of them

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

cant be soon enough for both of them

Totally agree.

 

[KBVol]

:lolabove: Told you what they would say.

Truth hurts champ. Is Vandy horrible? No, they're an average team that's improving. But it's incorrect to say that they've been "beating good teams all year long".....at best it's misleading, at worst it's just a lie. If telling the truth makes me a "negavol, whatever the hell that is, then so be it.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Vand has been beating good teams all year!! And losing close games! He should have knew they wouldn't give up. They needed this game to get to a bowl!! I'm just upset they acted like they won the east after they beat uga. In the past yeah that's a given. Now everyweek matters. And it's been like that for 5-6 years.

This is epic thread material VB.

Like you I'm angry that Butch knew Vandy was good enough to win...... let's burn a mattress

 

[sccshortstop]

I was thinking this the other day. I am upset with Shoop but I said to myself, whatbare the chances that Bob Shoop just all of a sudden forgot how to coach a defense? Highly unlikely is the answer. I agree with you. Butch is way to controlling. I have said Butch and Shoop need to have a Ditka/Ryan type relationship.

I agree but cannot understand why Shoop would even come here knowing how lyle is. Maybe money?lol:

 

[Volst53]

I agree but cannot understand why Shoop would even come here knowing how lyle is. Maybe money?lol:

His family really loves the Nashville area and it was a move closer to them.