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Rickyvol77

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There really are going to be teams and coaches overrated and underrated based on the luck of their conference schedule...besides the often mentioned BS and Indiana and Ohio State's usual Big Ten schedule look at what Texas A&M has ACTUALLY DONE this season.

11-1 (7-1) seems like an elite year and one of the top three teams in the SEC right? Coach of the year stuff

Look at the SEC standings:
Georgia 11-1 (7-1)
Texas A&M 11-1 (7-1)
Ole Miss 11-1 (7-1)
Alabama 9-2 (6-1)
Texas 9-3 (6-2)
Oklahoma 9-2 (5-2)
Tennessee 8-3 (4-3)
Vandy 9-2 (5-2)
LSU 7-4 (3-4)
Mizzou 7-4 (3-4)
UK 5-6 (2-6)
Florida 3-8 (2-6)
Auburn 5-6 (1-6)
Miss State 5-7 (1-7)
S. Carolina 4-7 (1-7)
Arkansas 2-9 (0-7)

The bolded teams were who A&M played this season. Texas was the only great SEC team they played and they lost by double digits to them.

Same thing with Missouri in recent years and Vandy and Ole Miss this season;

More so than ever now in the bigger conferences, your season can be defined on the luck of the schedule as much other factors.

Luckily with the 9 game SEC schedule starting, and the expanded playoffs, this will be less of a factor.
 
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I'm no TaM fan, but SEC is a gauntlet no matter who you play. If you look at this schedule in pre-season, based upon trajectory from last year, LSU, MIZ, UF and SC all appeared to be tougher than they were this year. I'm a fan of the 9 game SEC schedule, but I feel it will bring even more debate b/c I think there will be potentially a lot of really good 2-3 loss conference teams.
 
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Sheik Yerbouti said:
I kind of agree with your point, but… when you are undefeated, it’s usually true that everyone you play was ranked lower.
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Put it this way....what do you think Tennessee's record would be right now if they had played Missouri and LSU instead of Oklahoma and Alabama...

11-1 (7-1) and playing for a bye in the playoff and a SEC title
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
There really are going to be teams and coaches overrated and underrated based on the luck of their conference schedule...besides the often mentioned BS and Indiana and Ohio State's usual Big Ten schedule look at what Texas A&M has ACTUALLY DONE this season.

11-1 (7-1) seems like an elite year and one of the top three teams in the SEC right? Coach of the year stuff

Look at the SEC standings:
Georgia 11-1 (7-1)
Texas A&M 11-1 (7-1)
Ole Miss 11-1 (7-1)
Alabama 9-2 (6-1)
Texas 9-3 (6-2)
Oklahoma 9-2 (5-2)
Tennessee 8-3 (4-3)
Vandy 9-2 (5-2)
LSU 7-4 (3-4)
Mizzou 7-4 (3-4)
UK 5-6 (2-6)
Florida 3-8 (2-6)
Auburn 5-6 (1-6)
Miss State 5-7 (1-7)
S. Carolina 4-7 (1-7)
Arkansas 2-9 (0-7)

The bolded teams were who A&M played this season. Texas was the only great SEC team they played and they lost by double digits to them.

Same thing with Missouri in recent years and Vandy and Ole Miss this season;

More so than ever now in the bigger conferences, your season can be defined on the luck of the schedule as much other factors.

Luckily with the 9 game SEC schedule starting, and the expanded playoffs, this will be less of a factor.
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Also Miz & LSU had QBs hurt which impacted their play vs Vandy not sure vs A&M.
I expected A&M to lose to Texas although both teams are not playing great and are trending down. A&M let a bad South Carolina team score 30 on them at home if Sc had a good HC A&M loses that game and Texas got blown out vs UGA just last week. I think these 2 Texas team are trending down IMO. Both QBs had so so numbers the 2 INTs by Marcel was the difference both ran the ball well ArchM had a TD run. Manning had some throw away that were borderline grounding penalties like that not called can change the game.
I totally agree with you these conference have got so big by the luck of the draw you may be playing a quasi G5 schedule with 1 team playing P4 equivalent on your schedule. Will be interesting to follow this next year.
 
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well when your historical rival and permanent opponent is a playoff contender then you better just get used to having higher standards or excellence.

but we do get Vanderbilt and Kentucky every year which th rest of the SEC drools for.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
well when your historical rival and permanent opponent is a playoff contender then you better just get used to having higher standards or excellence.

but we do get Vanderbilt and Kentucky every year which th rest of the SEC drools for.
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so we had the highest standard since we had Florida, UGA and Bama every season plus a top team from the West usually
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
so we had the highest standard since we had Florida, UGA and Bama every season plus a top team from the West usually
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I agree with most all said here; great points. Schedule is a huge factor in most major conferences, and like this year in the SEC, team projections can change dramatically depending on actual results. What would Vols record be with Ohio st schedule? I think they played only two ranked teams so far. Like Clemson always padded their record with weak teams in the ACC (Ain’t Competitive Conference), and went to play for championships.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
we did have the highest standard, if we didn't we wouldn't have fired 3 coaches in a row...

you are contradicting yourself as usual..
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nah we hang on to our coaches until they run the program completely into the ground and set it on fire before "oh I guess we should get a new coach" 😂

for many fans on this board going 0-8 in the SEC is the only reason to fire a coach in less than 5 years.
 
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UTFranklinVol said:
nah we hang on to our coaches until they run the program completely into the ground and set it on fire before "oh I guess we should get a new coach" 😂

for many fans on this board going 0-8 in the SEC is the only reason to fire a coach in less than 5 years.
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You've been around here 2 years kid...what do you know about it?

Who said we should allow coaches to "run the program completely into the ground"? Or you going back to throwing out strawmen since your usual points failed?

There are several reasons to fire a coach in less than 5 years...but being one of the winnigiest HCs in the country with likely 3 out of 5 seasons in the top 10-15, with a playoff appearance and multiple wins over Bama and Florida, with multiple 5 star recruits still coming is not one of them, and even dumb to suggest at this point considering where we were to where we are to where we are going
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
There really are going to be teams and coaches overrated and underrated based on the luck of their conference schedule...besides the often mentioned BS and Indiana and Ohio State's usual Big Ten schedule look at what Texas A&M has ACTUALLY DONE this season.

11-1 (7-1) seems like an elite year and one of the top three teams in the SEC right? Coach of the year stuff

Look at the SEC standings:
Georgia 11-1 (7-1)
Texas A&M 11-1 (7-1)
Ole Miss 11-1 (7-1)
Alabama 9-2 (6-1)
Texas 9-3 (6-2)
Oklahoma 9-2 (5-2)
Tennessee 8-3 (4-3)
Vandy 9-2 (5-2)
LSU 7-4 (3-4)
Mizzou 7-4 (3-4)
UK 5-6 (2-6)
Florida 3-8 (2-6)
Auburn 5-6 (1-6)
Miss State 5-7 (1-7)
S. Carolina 4-7 (1-7)
Arkansas 2-9 (0-7)

The bolded teams were who A&M played this season. Texas was the only great SEC team they played and they lost by double digits to them.

Same thing with Missouri in recent years and Vandy and Ole Miss this season;

More so than ever now in the bigger conferences, your season can be defined on the luck of the schedule as much other factors.

Luckily with the 9 game SEC schedule starting, and the expanded playoffs, this will be less of a factor.
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Reminds me of us last year and we had a playoff spot.
 
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They need to go back to divisions, that way you have teams who play in a division will play mostly the same schedule. In the SEC East, make it:

Tennessee
Alabama
Auburn
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
South Carolina
Georgia &
Florida

In the SEC West:

Texas
Oklahoma
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
LSU
Ole Miss &
Miss State.

This preserves all the key rivalries within the divisions. Play 9 conferences games, 7 in division and rotate 2 from the other division every year. Only division record counts toward the championship game. You will have a real conference champion and a fair way of determining the participants.
 
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