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Grand Vol said:
Not true. Just toss some oil on it and keep firing. Look up the Filthy 14 for a good example of this.

This nonsense that an AR has to be kept clean is little more than an urban myth that's been propagated since Vietnam.
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It was real in Vietnam. Damn bean counters switching powders.

Good to see you.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It was real in Vietnam. Damn bean counters switching powders.

Good to see you.
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Yes, along with not issuing cleaning kits and zero instructions on maintenance.

Problem solved once they talked to Colt. I read the reports about those issues not long ago. There was like a 95% approval rate in Vietnam for the rifle one they got everything worked out.

Glad you've been keeping these ****ers in line.

@hog88

The M16A1 was also not subject to necessary deep cleaning as much as you were told. I put 900 rounds through a Vietnam era, 4 digit serial numbered M16 and only dropped some additional LSA around the 500 round mark. One malf total.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yes, along with not issuing cleaning kits and zero instructions on maintenance.

Problem solved once they talked to Colt. I read the reports about those issues not long ago. There was like a 95% approval rate in Vietnam for the rifle one they got everything worked out.

Glad you've been keeping these ****ers in line.

@hog88

The M16A1 was also not subject to necessary deep cleaning as much as you were told. I put 900 rounds through a Vietnam era, 4 digit serial numbered M16 and only dropped some additional LSA around the 500 round mark. One malf total.
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Charlie only needs one malfunction.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yes, along with not issuing cleaning kits and zero instructions on maintenance.

Problem solved once they talked to Colt. I read the reports about those issues not long ago. There was like a 95% approval rate in Vietnam for the rifle one they got everything worked out.

Glad you've been keeping these ****ers in line.

@hog88

The M16A1 was also not subject to necessary deep cleaning as much as you were told. I put 900 rounds through a Vietnam era, 4 digit serial numbered M16 and only dropped some additional LSA around the 500 round mark. One malf total.
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The forward assist has to be the typical government solution to a non problem. I mean why on earth would you want to knowingly jam something futher into a chamber that doesn’t want to go? After all the bolt carrier already has a dished out section that was meant to be a chamber assist. Bureaucrats...

Side note: my dad was in Vietnam and he told me he trained initially with the M1 Garand then received a M14 and when he got in country in Vietnam he received a m16 with, as you say, 0 instruction. Some guys had cleaning rods taped to their rifles to remove the stuck cases. Just a total failure by the bureaucracy in place.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yes, along with not issuing cleaning kits and zero instructions on maintenance.

Problem solved once they talked to Colt. I read the reports about those issues not long ago. There was like a 95% approval rate in Vietnam for the rifle one they got everything worked out.

Glad you've been keeping these ****ers in line.

@hog88

The M16A1 was also not subject to necessary deep cleaning as much as you were told. I put 900 rounds through a Vietnam era, 4 digit serial numbered M16 and only dropped some additional LSA around the 500 round mark. One malf total.
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Maybe not and it was the simply the fact the ones we used in basic were older than we were and nearly worn out. I was scared to death mine would screw up during qualifying because it had on almost every other range day.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Interesting turn of events in the firearm world.

Remington Asset Bids Revealed: Ruger Gets Marlin, Vista Gets Remington Ammo, Franklin Armory Gets Bushmaster, Sierra Gets Barnes - The Truth About Guns

I think Ruger will take care of the Marlin legacy. Palmetto picked up a few good scores and Federal takes the Remington ammo brand.

Sierra picked up Barnes. Lots of good movement there.
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Honestly I think it's a win for shooters probably across the board. I know a lot of people will be happy to see Marlin get a real shot at some QC again.
 
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hndog609 said:
Honestly I think it's a win for shooters probably across the board. I know a lot of people will be happy to see Marlin get a real shot at some QC again.
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I have 7 older Marlins and the quality control was quite good. My oldest is a 39A from 1953. Most of them are from the late 50's up to maybe early 1990's.
 
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1972 Grad said:
I have 7 older Marlins and the quality control was quite good. My oldest is a 39A from 1953. Most of them are from the late 50's up to maybe early 1990's.
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Yep, Marlin had a great rep for a long time but that faltered more recently. I would expect that to turn around under Ruger.
 
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I don’t know what the national gun buying stats are now but I know here in Norfolk a lot of pistols are on a first come first serve bases , back orders running about 10 days and signs everywhere that says out of stock . I don’t ever remember a run on firearms this big or lasting this long .
 
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