Misuse Of Running Backs

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do you think creer is better than coker, based on what little we all have seen. you may have seen more than I
 
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VOLnFLORIDA said:
do you think creer is better than coker, based on what little we all have seen. you may have seen more than I
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Creer played better than Coker on Saturday. Foster played better than both of them. I agree, Foster should be our feature back until someone else proves they should be. Foster might possibly end up All-SEC.
 
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True freshmen running backs: Jamal Lewis, James Stewart, Aaron Hayden. From other locales: Adrian Peterson, Herschel Walker, Ron Dayne. Just a few of many.
 
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I didn't see the need to add Bo Jackson. I figured the point was evident. Unless my memory is faulty, Reggie Cobb had a pretty good year as a true freshman.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I didn't see the need to add Bo Jackson. I figured the point was evident. Unless my memory is faulty, Reggie Cobb had a pretty good year as a true freshman.
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I think I remember Reggie Cobb scoring about 20 TDs his freshman year.
 
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kptvol said:
I think it's a little early to say anything about Creer at this point. He played a few downs against a worn out Southern Miss defense.

Coker had just shy of 696 yards rushing last year. About 486 of those yards came against Marshall, Memphis, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky. Outside of those games his season high was 56 yards against Georgia.
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This is the point that I was waiting on someone to make in this thread, especially as pertains to Creer's carries against Southern Miss. Foster made the punishing runs earlier in the game that led somewhat to Creer's later success.

The point about Coker has also been made several times on this board and is a fair and accurate statement. Do both Coker and Creer have homerun ability that Foster lacks to a degree? Sure, and they should get some touches for that very reason. Should they shoulder the brunt of UT's running game at this point given the way Foster is producing? Absolutely not. Should this be revisited if at some point Foster's production drops off? Absolutely, but not now.
 
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GAVol said:
I disagree.
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WR requires a competent QB to get you the ball. Meachem didn't have that his first 2 years (2 frosh - ainge and schaeffer, then the QB controversy in 05).

RB just has to follow his blocks. If the o-line is terrible, he is in bad shape, but then again, if the o-line is awful, the WR probably isn't going to be able to get much going on either (as that is a 3rd obstacle for the WR).

Basically, RB has less people between him and success, which means less people to (potentially) screw it up.

edit: whoops, keep forgetting no profanity on here
 
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sMi.Spite said:
WR requires a competent QB to get you the ball. Meachem didn't have that his first 2 years (2 frosh - ainge and schaeffer, then the QB controversy in 05).

RB just has to follow his blocks. If the o-line is terrible, he is in bad shape, but then again, if the o-line is awful, the WR probably isn't going to be able to get much going on either (as that is a 3rd obstacle for the WR).

Basically, RB has less people between him and success, which means less people to (potentially) screw it up.

edit: whoops, keep forgetting no profanity on here
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what? explain your conclusion in contrast to WR's?:ermm:
 
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GAVol said:
If only it was that simple.
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Baltimore Ravens win SB with rookie RB as significant contributor.

Colts win SB with rookie RB as significant contributor.

Ohio State wins NC with freshman running back.

Seems much simpler than having a newbie at receiver.
 
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allvol123 said:
Baltimore Ravens win SB with rookie RB as significant contributor.

Colts win SB with rookie RB as significant contributor.
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Hold on now . . . The NFL is a whole different ballgame.

I'll concede that there are a lot of examples of freshman RBs that contribute, but I still think the WRs tend to see the field a little sooner.
 
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GAVol said:
Hold on now . . . The NFL is a whole different ballgame.

I'll concede that there are a lot of examples of freshman RBs that contribute, but I still think the WRs tend to see the field a little sooner.
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I was arguing moving from any level to the next level.

Also, according to the 2002 NCAA season, there were 4 freshman in the top 50 RB rushing totals. There were 2 freshman in the top 50 WR receiving totals.

Just because more see the field sooner is not necessarily mean they have an impact. Most times there are 2 to 3 wideouts in a formation, so they have more opportunity to see the field sooner.
 
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I'm not really arguing who has more impact. I'm just saying that, on the whole, I think you tend to see more freshman receivers seeing early playing time.
 
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GAVol said:
Hold on now . . . The NFL is a whole different ballgame.

I'll concede that there are a lot of examples of freshman RBs that contribute, but I still think the WRs tend to see the field a little sooner.
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That's my point I have been stating as well...I agree!:good!:
 
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VOLnFLORIDA said:
That's my point I have been stating as well...I agree!:good!:
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That is why our highly touted incoming class of WRs including 2 that are JC transfers can't unseat the trio of Rogers, Taylor, and Briscoe. You would think they would know their route trees by now.
 
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I think we should agree to disagree before one of us is forced to start digging up stats and we wreck any hope of workplace productivity for the day.
 
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GAVol said:
I think we should agree to disagree before one of us is forced to start digging up stats and we wreck any hope of workplace productivity for the day.
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VN killed that for me over a year ago. :)

Besides we don't even seem to be arguing over the same thing, apparently.

:peace2:
 
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GAVol said:
I'm not really arguing who has more impact. I'm just saying that, on the whole, I think you tend to see more freshman receivers seeing early playing time.
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I'd say it's a really narrow difference between the two, if at all. Might have to do some digging on those stats
 
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