Milton and the offense

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Is Milton capable of running this hurry up offense? I have noticed that in the three games that the offense is set, but he stops and stares at the sideline. Sometimes to the point where the clock runs out or have to burn a timeout. He has all the talent in the world for QB, but is he having trouble reading the defense and calling an audible without needing it called in?
 
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You have to be able to run the ball, protect and hit gimme throws to play with tempo. TFLs, sacks, having to throw it away and penalties completely neuter our ability to go fast. Joe's struggles along with personnel issues we're trying to work through have made the playbook really limited right now and going fast just exposes our weaknesses even more. You're going to see more "hurry up and wait" at the LOS.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
Is Milton capable of running this hurry up offense? I have noticed that in the three games that the offense is set, but he stops and stares at the sideline. Sometimes to the point where the clock runs out or have to burn a timeout. He has all the talent in the world for QB, but is he having trouble reading the defense and calling an audible without needing it called in?
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Maybe we're missing Golesh more than we thought we would?
 
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GAVol said:
And throw in the fact that the offense is a dysfuntional mess due to personnel with the QB, X, Z, TE, LT, C, and RT all being different Saturday from what they were last season.
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I don't think we can accept that as an excuse. There is turnover every year in CFB. It will actually be worse next year for the Vols. Also, all of those guys except the LT have multiple years in the system... and the LT played pretty well.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
Is Milton capable of running this hurry up offense? I have noticed that in the three games that the offense is set, but he stops and stares at the sideline. Sometimes to the point where the clock runs out or have to burn a timeout. He has all the talent in the world for QB, but is he having trouble reading the defense and calling an audible without needing it called in?
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Fire the players and start over!! Do not fire the coaches! It is on the players!!
 
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Again! Milton looked like a shoe in for the Heisman Trophy in the Orange Bowl. What happened? What hasn’t happened? Besides Right Tackle, this is about the same offensive unit.

It’s 💯 a mind thing. If all goes as planned, he’s phenomenal. If things breakdown and he has to process the move, he’s screwed.

Just the facts!
 
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It’s not just the Qb that is the problem. The defense was way out of position especially on the big plays that Florida had in the game. Florida had one good qtr and scored 20 points 14 of which came off the botched tackling on the long run and Milton’s what was you thinking throwing that interception. Our offense though is lacking it swagger and is different than last year. I think Milton is too scared to run the ball and is limiting himself to just throwing it. We have not had the RPOs like we have done with Hooker so that is either Milton not checking down to that on his pre-snap reads or CJH not calling it but it’s not working this year and we have the horses to get it done and 4 games into the season we should be hitting our stride and not losing to FL the way we did.
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think we can accept that as an excuse. There is turnover every year in CFB. It will actually be worse next year for the Vols. Also, all of those guys except the LT have multiple years in the system... and the LT played pretty well.
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Whatever you want to call it, it's obviously an issue. We're basically going through what Alabama and UGA are going through as far as a dropoff in offensive efficiency. The difference is that they have O-lines that let them protect and run it enough to get away with not having elite QB play.
 
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Milton - Heisman Candidate??? - I guess him throwing the ball 80 yards like 100s of other people can makes him that candidate. In the Orange Bowl he did have a supporting cast but now he has nothing but McCoy and watching him in the hurry up is nauseating. One game doesn't make a Heisman Candidate. He shouldn't be on the field at this point but there really is no other choice than playing a green Nico. I think that's the direction we should be heading but time will tell. If we continue to play we are going to be a 3 star recruiting school or another stepping stone....
 
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Im not defending Milton, as I also think he has processing issues before and during the play, but nobody is going to be good as long as the Center doesn't know what he's doing. This impacts the entire OL as he is responsible for calling the blocking assignments pre-snap. Lane also false started several times or caused it by not snapping it when Joe clapped. Dayne got in there and nothing really got better, so Im not sure what the answer is. Cooper needs to come back ASAP. Hopefully he is ready by USCjr. That will be 6.5 weeks since surgery.

What a mess.
 
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GAVol said:
You have to be able to run the ball, protect and hit gimme throws to play with tempo. TFLs, sacks, having to throw it away and penalties completely neuter our ability to go fast. Joe's struggles along with personnel issues we're trying to work through have made the playbook really limited right now and going fast just exposes our weaknesses even more. You're going to see more "hurry up and wait" at the LOS.
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Spot on. I think the Oline is our main issue. Milton will never be close to what Hooker was but if you give him time and keep him on schedule he could give you something. I think though you’ve seen what you’re going to get there. If you fix the Oline I’m still not sure you can win many games with Milton as your qb. If you lean on the ground game and go to Nico I’m not sure what you get. If we scrap or minimize up tempo I’m not sure we can win with this defense.
 
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OC Joey Halzle said there's nothing about the operation of the Tennessee offense that would improve with Nico Iamaleava at QB right now because Joe Milton III is "operating at a really high level."

I'm surprised he finds anything about this offense "operating at a really high level."
 
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sjt18 said:
I don't think we can accept that as an excuse. There is turnover every year in CFB. It will actually be worse next year for the Vols. Also, all of those guys except the LT have multiple years in the system... and the LT played pretty well.
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Campbell is doing well at LT, replacing Darnell we knew would be a chore this year, also replacing a lot of experience in Jerome Carvin, Coop hasn’t been available at center… Spraggins is the one hold over from last year that has been available and reliable.

O line play impacts skill position play I think if that is worked out, the rest of the pieces fall into place; I’ve wondered if that is why there has been more quick pass/screen plays this year vs. last so that the pass blocking doesn’t necessarily have to hold up as long…
 
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DrTNT said:
Campbell is doing well at LT, replacing Darnell we knew would be a chore this year, also replacing a lot of experience in Jerome Carvin, Coop hasn’t been available at center… Spraggins is the one hold over from last year that has been available and reliable.

O line play impacts skill position play I think if that is worked out, the rest of the pieces fall into place; I’ve wondered if that is why there has been more quick pass/screen plays this year vs. last so that the pass blocking doesn’t necessarily have to hold up as long…
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The answer to that is probably yes. However I think Spraggins has had a very disappointing season so far. He's the one committing penalties and getting beaten. Lane hasn't been a great sub for Mays... and that's pretty concerning.
 
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sjt18 said:
The answer to that is probably yes. However I think Spraggins has had a very disappointing season so far. He's the one committing penalties and getting beaten. Lane hasn't been a great sub for Mays... and that's pretty concerning.
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I felt sorry for Lane. Tough to come in and play Center, but he just didn’t have a chance out there.
 
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The offense has looked like garbage from the first game and it starts with Milton. I like Milton and was extremely hopeful but he’s just not going to be a good qb. He still has accuracy issues. I would think some plays would be designed for him to run but he’s scared to get hit. It’s obvious. On 4th and 6 he throws it in the dirt. There’s been multiple times where we just have to give guys a chance and he can’t do it. He tries to check out of plays with 3 seconds on the play clock. For all his physical attributes he just isn’t going to get it done at this point and if we’re willing to throw away a season to allow it then we deserve what we get.
 
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C-south said:
The offense has looked like garbage from the first game and it starts with Milton. I like Milton and was extremely hopeful but he’s just not going to be a good qb. He still has accuracy issues. I would think some plays would be designed for him to run but he’s scared to get hit. It’s obvious. On 4th and 6 he throws it in the dirt. There’s been multiple times where we just have to give guys a chance and he can’t do it. He tries to check out of plays with 3 seconds on the play clock. For all his physical attributes he just isn’t going to get it done at this point and if we’re willing to throw away a season to allow it then we deserve what we get.
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The audible with :04 on the play clock and then getting a free play with too many men on the field and throwing a check down rather than a deep shot just tells me the game isn’t going to ever slow down for Milton.
 
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GAVol said:
I felt sorry for Lane. Tough to come in and play Center, but he just didn’t have a chance out there.
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He is kind of a scapegoat. He has no business being out there and wasn't supposed to be. He probably didn't even want to use his extra year this season, but is wanting to live out a local football player's dream.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
Is Milton capable of running this hurry up offense? I have noticed that in the three games that the offense is set, but he stops and stares at the sideline. Sometimes to the point where the clock runs out or have to burn a timeout. He has all the talent in the world for QB, but is he having trouble reading the defense and calling an audible without needing it called in?
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He ran the offense at a high level against Clemson. Now what was the biggest difference in that game? OL was much better and Cooper played. Why is it some fans just have forgotten about that game?
 
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Voldawg1970 said:
Milton - Heisman Candidate??? - I guess him throwing the ball 80 yards like 100s of other people can makes him that candidate. In the Orange Bowl he did have a supporting cast but now he has nothing but McCoy and watching him in the hurry up is nauseating. One game doesn't make a Heisman Candidate. He shouldn't be on the field at this point but there really is no other choice than playing a green Nico. I think that's the direction we should be heading but time will tell. If we continue to play we are going to be a 3 star recruiting school or another stepping stone....
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Good grief
 
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