Military funeral question.

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I went to my grandfather's funeral today.He was 93, led a great life,even managed to buy a house for a (much younger) gold digger while he was alive(that's another story).He was in WWII so he had a military burial.They played taps on the bugel and three soldiers folded the flag on his coffin and presented it to the family.When do military funerals have the gun salute.Just wondering.Is it a soldier is killed while a war is going on and or what?
BTW,Beautiful ceremony,beautiful taps.
 
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The gun salute at Military funerals is usually performed for General Officers 0-7 and above, Presidents and other high ranking officials.

Sorry for your loss.
 
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I'm sorry for your loss. My best friend died in January while on active duty. He received the three volleys, which is often confused as the gun salute.

The only reason I can think of why your grandfather did not receive the three volley honor is that perhaps the funeral detail was overbooked and could not support it.

From another site:
Graveside military honors include the firing of three volleys each by seven service members. This commonly is confused with an entirely separate honor, the 21-gun salute. But the number of individual gun firings in both honors evolved the same way. The three volleys came from an old battlefield custom. The two warring sides would cease hostilities to clear their dead from the battlefield, and the firing of three volleys meant that the dead had been properly cared for and the side was ready to resume the battle.

Arlington National Cemetery follows an "order of arms" protocol to determine the number of guns to be used in a salute. A president, ex-president or foreign head of state is saluted with 21 guns. A vice president, prime minister, secretary of defense or secretary of the Army receives a 19-gun salute. Flag officers receive salutes of 11 to 17 guns, depending on their rank. The rounds are fired one at a time.
A U.S. presidential death also involves other ceremonial gun salutes and military traditions. On the day after the death of the president, a former president or president-elect -- unless this day falls on a Sunday or holiday, in which case the honor will rendered the following day -- the commanders of Army installations with the necessary personnel and material traditionally order that one gun be fired every half hour, beginning at reveille and ending at retreat.
On the day of burial, a 21-minute gun salute traditionally is fired starting at noon at all military installations with the necessary personnel and material. Guns will be fired at one-minute intervals. Also on the day of burial, those installations will fire a 50-gun salute -- one round for each state -- at five- second intervals immediately following lowering of the flag.
 
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Thanks guys.I think he served in both army and airforce.He had worked at VA Hospital for nearly 30 years as well.
 
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I went to my grandfather's funeral today.He was 93, led a great life,even managed to buy a house for a (much younger) gold digger while he was alive(that's another story).He was in WWII so he had a military burial.They played taps on the bugel and three soldiers folded the flag on his coffin and presented it to the family.When do military funerals have the gun salute.Just wondering.Is it a soldier is killed while a war is going on and or what?
BTW,Beautiful ceremony,beautiful taps.
They most likely did not have the personnel to accomodate the 3 volleys.
 
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RealUT is most likely correct. I am in the Navy Band in DC and we can only support 4 full honors funerals per day max. Other than that we try and send a bugler to the rest. Generally speaking active duty and retired flag officers (O-7 to O-10) get priority.
 
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RealUT is most likely correct. I am in the Navy Band in DC and we can only support 4 full honors funerals per day max. Other than that we try and send a bugler to the rest. Generally speaking active duty and retired flag officers (O-7 to O-10) get priority.
Yes I can agree with that.I found out yesterday they also had a funeral yesterday in the same city for a soldier who was just killed in Iraq.I'm sure they were dispatched over there with him.
 
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RealUT is most likely correct. I am in the Navy Band in DC and we can only support 4 full honors funerals per day max. Other than that we try and send a bugler to the rest. Generally speaking active duty and retired flag officers (O-7 to O-10) get priority.
Am I chopped liver or are you just mad I got out of the Navy on Friday? :unsure: :neener2: :salute:
 
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It's going great. I got out early and started working right off the bat at Johnson Controls as a Controls Technician in the St. Louis area.

My wife calls STL home, so it is home.

It relates well to the electronics training the Navy gave me. I work for and am training with a former Navy electronics technician.

I've been home with my wife for 7 days in a row, something that hadn't happened yet this year. I'd estimate that I spent 2 full months with her last year.
 

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