Meachem - why is he so loved?

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I noticed that Phil Steele ranked Meachem as the #13 WR in the nation (I believe it was 13). What is it about this guy that people always want to give him the benefit of the doubt? I hope Meach has a big year but I just don't know how optimistic I am going to be. Ever since he has been here, the upcoming year was going to be his year.

So what is it? Do people remember how highly rated he was or are they forming these opinions based on physical ability that just has not shown up on the field yet ( .....at least to the degree that we expect)? Maybe we all figure that someone has to step up this season and he is the logical choice.
 
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(vol_freak @ Jun 15 said:
I noticed that Phil Steele ranked Meachem as the #13 WR in the nation (I believe it was 13). What is it about this guy that people always want to give him the benefit of the doubt? I hope Meach has a big year but I just don't know how optimistic I am going to be. Ever since he has been here, the upcoming year was going to be his year.

So what is it? Do people remember how highly rated he was or are they forming these opinions based on physical ability that just has not shown up on the field yet ( .....at least to the degree that we expect)? Maybe we all figure that someone has to step up this season and he is the logical choice.
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If not Meachem, who?
 
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I think part of the deal with his ranking this season is a weak WR class.

I like Meach, I hope he turns into the nation's best, but looking at the list, there isn't a whole lot of talent behind him.

Meach HAS the tools to be as good as Phil thinks and in a Cut ran offense, he has the chance. Let's just hope that he catches the easy ones this season.
 
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I have to say that he has been one of the biggest disapointments at that position in a long time. I sure hope he comes to his ability this year.
 
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(VolBeef88 @ Jun 15 said:
I have to say that he has been one of the biggest disapointments at that position in a long time. I sure hope he comes to his ability this year.
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i think it was in the sporting news preseason mag, an unidentified coach or scout asked the rhetorical question:" why aren't b. smith and meach dominating the game", then he said the tn players yap alot on the field but do not back it up. go figure!
 
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From the love Steel has been giving the Vols... Who knows. I certainly hope our guys live up to all these expectations Steele has for them, but for somebody who is supposed to take an objective look into the 2006 football season, Steele seems a little cukoo. He's giving a lot of kudos to an offensive unit who certainly deserves few if any after last season.
 
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He was a fortuneteller last season, having us in the Music City Bowl and the ONLY preseason mag not to have us in first place in the SEC East, and the ONLY one having GA come out on top.

I'll hold out hope, he is correct again.
 
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(OrangeSquare @ Jun 15 said:
He was a fortuneteller last season, having us in the Music City Bowl and the ONLY preseason mag not to have us in first place in the SEC East, and the ONLY one having GA come out on top.

I'll hold out hope, he is correct again.
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Let's see if lightning strikes twice.
 
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Who is the last great receiver that TN had? Donte Stallworth? Peerless Price? WR U hasn't lived up to the billing in the last several years. I'm not trying to be negative or anything, that's just a legitimate evaluation of the situation.
 
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(Donatello from Bucksnort @ Jun 15 said:
Who is the last great receiver that TN had? Donte Stallworth? Peerless Price? WR U hasn't lived up to the billing in the last several years. I'm not trying to be negative or anything, that's just a legitimate evaluation of the situation.
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Actually, while Donte Stallworth and Peerless Price were good college wide receivers, they weren't fantastic. The last truly great wide receiver that UT had that I can recall was Carl Pickens. Marcus Nash and Joey Kent were nothing more than average college receivers benefitting from playing several years with one of the greatest college quarterbacks of all time.

In my opinion, UT lost the title of Wide Receiver U a long time ago. For the last 20 years, UT has been FAR BETTER at churning out great offensive linemen and running backs than wide receivers.
 
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Meachem's physical appearance, potential and the fact that he plays for us have people giving him the benefit of the doubt...works for me
 
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Meachem sucks until he converts whatever the hell it is that many of you see in him into actual production in a real game. How anybody can hype this guy after his first two seasons at UT is beyond me.
 
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(smokeyman15 @ Jun 15 said:
Meachem's physical appearance, potential and the fact that he plays for us have people giving him the benefit of the doubt...works for me
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I was unaware that a team could put points on the scoreboard based on the physical appearance of its players.
 
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(LadyinOrange @ Jun 15 said:
If not Meachem, who?
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The answer last year was nobody. Why would you necessarily assume the answer would be different this year?
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 15 said:
Actually, while Donte Stallworth and Peerless Price were good college wide receivers, they weren't fantastic. The last truly great wide receiver that UT had that I can recall was Carl Pickens. Marcus Nash and Joey Kent were nothing more than average college receivers benefitting from playing several years with one of the greatest college quarterbacks of all time.

In my opinion, UT lost the title of Wide Receiver U along time ago. For the last 20 years, UT has been FAR BETTER at churning out great offensive linemen and running backs than wide receivers.
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I agree. When you have guys like Tony Brown and Leonard Scott in your starting lineup, that's pretty scary. That makes me long for receivers like Price, Stallworth, Kent and Nash.
 
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How about "the future"?

Seriously, I think Cedric Wilson was a good college and good pro receiver but he definitely was not great.
 
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(vol_freak @ Jun 15 said:
How about "the future"?

Seriously, I think Cedric Wilson was a good college and good pro receiver but he definitely was not great.
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My opinion was that Cedric Wilson was a very talented college wide receiver that was very underutilized. Without actually looking at his stats, my impression is that he has been at best an average #2 receiver in the pros up to this point (performing better in some years than in others).
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 15 said:
My opinion was that Cedric Wilson was a very talented college wide receiver that was very underutilized. Without actually looking at his stats, my impression is that he has been at best an average #2 receiver in the pros up to this point (performing better in some years than in others).
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Cedric Wilson's career happened to come at a time when TN was using the "pound the rock" philosophy. Although Tee Martin is one of my favorite TN QBs, he wasn't exactly a stellar passer.
 
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(Donatello from Bucksnort @ Jun 15 said:
Cedric Wilson's career happened to come at a time when TN was using the "pound the rock" philosophy. Although Tee Martin is one of my favorite TN QBs, he wasn't exactly a stellar passer.
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Here were his college stats. I did recall him doing his best work in the red zone, but I didn't remember him ringing up 12 touchdowns in his final season.

1997
12 GAMES PLAYED
00 GAMES STARTED
7 RECEPTIONS
71 YARDS RECEIVING
10.1 AVG/RECEPTION
2 TD'S
16 LONG RECEPTION

1998
12 GAMES PLAYED
09 GAMES STARTED
33 RECEPTIONS
558 YARDS RECEIVING
16.9 AVG/RECEPTION
6 TD'S
55 LONG RECEPTION

1999
11 GAMES PLAYED
09 GAMES STARTED
57 RECEPTIONS
827 YARDS RECEIVING
14.5 AVG/RECEPTION
4 TD'S
64 LONG RECEPTION

2000
11 GAMES PLAYED
08 GAMES STARTED
62 RECEPTIONS
681 YARDS RECEIVING
11.0 AVG/RECEPTION
12 TD'S
41 LONG RECEPTION


 
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Also, reviewing Cedrick Wilson's NFL stats confirmed my general impression that he has been at best an average #2 wide receiver. Honestly, he's probably been more of a below average #2 receiver or a pretty good #3 receiver.
 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 15 said:
Here were his college stats. I did recall him doing his best work in the red zone, but I didn't remember him ringing up 12 touchdowns in his final season.


1998
12 GAMES PLAYED
09 GAMES STARTED
33 RECEPTIONS
558 YARDS RECEIVING
16.9 AVG/RECEPTION
6 TD'S
55 LONG RECEPTION

1999
11 GAMES PLAYED
09 GAMES STARTED
57 RECEPTIONS
827 YARDS RECEIVING
14.5 AVG/RECEPTION
4 TD'S
64 LONG RECEPTION

2000
11 GAMES PLAYED
08 GAMES STARTED
62 RECEPTIONS
681 YARDS RECEIVING
11.0 AVG/RECEPTION
12 TD'S
41 LONG RECEPTION
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you left out the most important stat for qb's. Completion %.

Also I thought Tee Martin was a junior in 98, and a senior in 99.

In 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2003 Casey Clausen was the starting QB.

I 2004 and 2005 Eric Ainge was the starting QB.

 
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(Vol423 @ Jun 15 said:
My opinion was that Cedric Wilson was a very talented college wide receiver that was very underutilized. Without actually looking at his stats, my impression is that he has been at best an average #2 receiver in the pros up to this point (performing better in some years than in others).
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More like a 3, depending on which team he's on. The Steelers had a pretty damn good group last season, though. Maybe with the departure of Randle-El, Wilson could see some more minutes. He was pretty good in the shots he got.
 
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(oklavol @ Jun 15 said:
you left out the most important stat for qb's. Completion %.

Also I thought Tee Martin was a junior in 98, and a senior in 99.

In 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2003 Casey Clausen was the starting QB.

I 2004 and 2005 Eric Ainge was the starting QB.
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What are you talking about? Was it not obvious that those were Cedrick Wilson's stats, not Tee Martin's? Since when do you see a QB with 57 or 62 receptions in a season? Follow the thread please!
 
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