Maryland’s o-line coach on Kasim Hill

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DarkAvenger said:
Your explanation of his athleticism saving his body over the others is open minded stupidity. You obviously have zero knowledge about human physiology or genetics. Nick Chubb has more athleticism in his testicles yet had his knee torn against us. I guess Robert Griffin III was obviously a better athlete than Maurer, he was hurt.
Edit: the other two would probably have the common sense that if they weighed 185 soaking wet they should get the yardage they could and slide. Competitive leading to stupidity isn’t a good trait, Baker 220lbs, Hurts 215-20lbs, Dobbs 215, fields 215.. see a trend?
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Open minded stupidity? I think you missed the point. If he had weighed 215 like the other guys you mention in your “trend” and landed the way he did, that extra weight could’ve killed any of them. Instead it was a mere concussion. So given the fact that the last time I’ve seen someone on a football field land on their head and scorpion like that was Deion Sanders in 95(?) vs the Steelers. Given the ATHLETE he was, he was limber enough to absorb the impact and bend with it. None of those guys you mentioned ever landed that way so no..... I don’t see the “trend” that you claim there is. In fact none of those guys have anything to do with what I was referring to because none of them ever landed that way to test it. Maurer did and Maurers BODY survived the entire season without injury. So claiming his BODY can’t cut it is “open minded stupidity” because his BODY already proved otherwise.
 
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1vol8 said:
Open minded stupidity? I think you missed the point. If he had weighed 215 like the other guys you mention in your “trend” and landed the way he did, that extra weight could’ve killed any of them. Instead it was a mere concussion. So given the fact that the last time I’ve seen someone on a football field land on their head and scorpion like that was Deion Sanders in 95(?) vs the Steelers. Given the ATHLETE he was, he was limber enough to absorb the impact and bend with it. None of those guys you mentioned ever landed that way so no..... I don’t see the “trend” that you claim there is. In fact none of those guys have anything to do with what I was referring to because none of them ever landed that way to test it. Maurer did and Maurers BODY survived the entire season without injury. So claiming his BODY can’t cut it is “open minded stupidity” because his BODY already proved otherwise.
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You honestly think he’s the only person in the history of the sport to land like that? You have no data to prove your theory that being an underweight kid with some athleticism helped him not die. Maurer didn’t make it through a complete game he played in due to getting hurt 3/4 of the time. You can’t count games he didn’t play in. Not to mention he was in concussion protocol for what 3 of the other games? There’s also the possibility that if he ate a sandwich and gained a little weight he probably wouldn’t be flying through the air every hit. It’s a lot harder to fling or flip 220 than 185. There is this thing called strength and conditioning where you can get bigger, stronger, and reduce injury and maintain or improve athleticism. That’s actually facts, not well if you squinted and looked at this random thought sideways and opened your mind bs.
 
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1vol8 said:
Open minded stupidity? I think you missed the point. If he had weighed 215 like the other guys you mention in your “trend” and landed the way he did, that extra weight could’ve killed any of them. Instead it was a mere concussion. So given the fact that the last time I’ve seen someone on a football field land on their head and scorpion like that was Deion Sanders in 95(?) vs the Steelers. Given the ATHLETE he was, he was limber enough to absorb the impact and bend with it. None of those guys you mentioned ever landed that way so no..... I don’t see the “trend” that you claim there is. In fact none of those guys have anything to do with what I was referring to because none of them ever landed that way to test it. Maurer did and Maurers BODY survived the entire season without injury. So claiming his BODY can’t cut it is “open minded stupidity” because his BODY already proved otherwise.
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Also, if you’re definition of his body survived is basically having a pulse, regardless of concussions received during the season, after the last game then I concede. You’re correct.
 
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SpookyAction said:
I had my right foot fixed about 5 yrs ago and I was able to walk instantly. I went from constant pain to no pain ever. And that change was instant from the moment I woke up. I have 3 screws and a plate and it only hurts when it is stepped on or I drop something on it.
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I had ACL recon about 7 years ago, it was very painful with a long recovery. My son at 14 had patella tendinitis recon last year. It was very painful, and this from a kid that snapped his ankle in two places and didn’t shed a tear. I guess it depends on the procedure, can only go off my own experience. Glad you did well.
 
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1vol8 said:
Gotta disagree. Maurer was not ready but Pruitt was forced to make a change after UF. And the moment he made that change, from that point forward, he assured everyone that JG would play and help win games. Once coaches make a decision like that to go with someone else they don’t normally stress such a confidence in the guy they just replaced without some kind of “devotion”. Most of us have been watching, apart of or around this game all our lives and I bet we can all count on less than 3 fingers how many times we’ve seen that kind of confidence in someone that was benched due to performance.
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He thought JG gave us the best chance of winning and was trying to keep his confidence high.... he benched him bc he wasn’t performing good at the time but that still didn’t mean he wasn’t our next option.
 
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volbeast33 said:
He thought JG gave us the best chance of winning and was trying to keep his confidence high.... he benched him bc he wasn’t performing good at the time but that still didn’t mean he wasn’t our next option.
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I understand what you’re saying and I don’t mean this combative. But why did it take him so long to see that JG was a great practice qb and game time is different quite often last year? He had him the previous season as well with all the same issues. Prior to that he had tape to study. So last year vs GAST shouldn’t have come as a surprise to him anymore than it did to any of us. That being said, he knew THEN (wk 1) that he needed a qb but he rolled JG out there every week eating up the most critical game time reps for a developing freshman vs cupcake teams and we won ONE of them as a result. I’m sorry but JG was the best option because that’s the way HE prepared the team every week until we got to the toughest stretch of our season. He could’ve pulled the trigger at half time vs GAST or BYU and no one would’ve questioned it but instead he waited until Georgia with MSST and ALABAMA up next? And some of us want to look at that freshman’s season stats and say “he had a fair shot”? Smh...... bs. That kid was low key thrown to the wolves wearing peanut butter underwear.
 
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1vol8 said:
I understand what you’re saying and I don’t mean this combative. But why did it take him so long to see that JG was a great practice qb and game time is different quite often last year? He had him the previous season as well with all the same issues. Prior to that he had tape to study. So last year vs GAST shouldn’t have come as a surprise to him anymore than it did to any of us. That being said, he knew THEN (wk 1) that he needed a qb but he rolled JG out there every week eating up the most critical game time reps for a developing freshman vs cupcake teams and we won ONE of them as a result. I’m sorry but JG was the best option because that’s the way HE prepared the team every week until we got to the toughest stretch of our season. He could’ve pulled the trigger at half time vs GAST or BYU and no one would’ve questioned it but instead he waited until Georgia with MSST and ALABAMA up next? And some of us want to look at that freshman’s season stats and say “he had a fair shot”? Smh...... bs. That kid was low key thrown to the wolves wearing peanut butter underwear.
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Have you ever coached a team? You play who you trust.... if you don’t trust Pruitt then listen to every single person that ever watched a practice.... every single report I ever read stated that JG was head and shoulders better than the next guy..... they set up game like scrimmages and JG our performers all of them.... you are asking a lot of a coach if you are expecting him to feel comfortable playing players that are struggling in practice.... Maurer has potential but he only completed 46% of his passes with 2 TDS and 5 int... he also struggled with the playbook and knowing how to get people lined up correctly.
 
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Kashim Hill is absolutely a better game day QB than JG.

Hill is the biggest in size but he has the weakest arm. Has a good feel for the game but is not overly dynamic. He's had over a year with Chaney now. I'm very interested to see if that amounts to anything.
Hill is also a short yardage run threat...
Haven't had that....

Maurer has the best physical tools.
60 yard arm with 4.5 ish speed.

The 5 star Bailey played like it his SR year in GA, but there will he an adjustment going into college.

If Bailey or Maurer doesn't grow up in a hurry, then Hill could present a safe veteran option until one them does.

We all KNOW what Gaurantano is going to do and NOT do.
 
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DarkAvenger said:
You honestly think he’s the only person in the history of the sport to land like that? You have no data to prove your theory that being an underweight kid with some athleticism helped him not die. Maurer didn’t make it through a complete game he played in due to getting hurt 3/4 of the time. You can’t count games he didn’t play in. Not to mention he was in concussion protocol for what 3 of the other games? There’s also the possibility that if he ate a sandwich and gained a little weight he probably wouldn’t be flying through the air every hit. It’s a lot harder to fling or flip 220 than 185. There is this thing called strength and conditioning where you can get bigger, stronger, and reduce injury and maintain or improve athleticism. That’s actually facts, not well if you squinted and looked at this random thought sideways and opened your mind bs.
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Obviously not given how I just referred to Deion Sanders in ‘95. The point is it doesn’t happen often and the results of such a rare landing often have more severe resulting injuries. Below is a look at the last time I’ve personally it happen and it’s the first time I’ve seen the player get right up. Maurer was the second. Both are tall, slender and very athletic. Not saying either of them would have the same luck twice but being naturally flexible obviously helped both of them in that rare situation.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Have you ever coached a team? You play who you trust.... if you don’t trust Pruitt then listen to every single person that ever watched a practice.... every single report I ever read stated that JG was head and shoulders better than the next guy..... they set up game like scrimmages and JG our performers all of them.... you are asking a lot of a coach if you are expecting him to feel comfortable playing players that are struggling in practice.... Maurer has potential but he only completed 46% of his passes with 2 TDS and 5 int... he also struggled with the playbook and knowing how to get people lined up correctly.
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Yes. I have coached quite a few teams at several different levels.

And I have attended several practices myself and seen it live. The reports from those days were borderline lies. But I can’t speak on every practice.

However you are wrong that “every single report had JG head and shoulders better”. Look back at them after the benching of JG and you’ll find the narrative change to “Maurer was the best”. Journalists report what people want to hear and follow what’s trending. Not always the truth. If 3 qbs practice together but only 1 is trending, you can bet your last dollar that they will concentrate on the trending player with the positives and the negatives of the other two. What they don’t tell you is all 3 looked equally as good. They don’t tell you that the ball only hit the ground 3 times all day for each player. They don’t tell you that each of them threw an int or 2 and they don’t tell you that each threw over 100 times. They also only get to see about a 10 min portion of practice anyway which is only the daily routes on air, then they are kicked out before 11-11.
 
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1vol8 said:
Obviously not given how I just referred to Deion Sanders in ‘95. The point is it doesn’t happen often and the results of such a rare landing often have more severe resulting injuries. Below is a look at the last time I’ve personally it happen and it’s the first time I’ve seen the player get right up. Maurer was the second. Both are tall, slender and very athletic. Not saying either of them would have the same luck twice but being naturally flexible obviously helped both of them in that rare situation.
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I don’t disagree there, flexibility absolutely helped, but just YouTube idiots flipping in sand and you’ll see all sorts landing way worse because the sand actually sticks their head without any protection. There’s also hyper flexible athletes who are much larger than Maurer and to say that the other qb’s would have been worse off is pure speculation. For all we know HB could have taken gymnastics as a kid and could be incredibly flexible just as well could be stiff as a steel pipe.
 
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DarkAvenger said:
I don’t disagree there, flexibility absolutely helped, but just YouTube idiots flipping in sand and you’ll see all sorts landing way worse because the sand actually sticks their head without any protection. There’s also hyper flexible athletes who are much larger than Maurer and to say that the other qb’s would have been worse off is pure speculation. For all we know HB could have taken gymnastics as a kid and could be incredibly flexible just as well could be stiff as a steel pipe.
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Now that’s a good point. And 100% correct. But the original comment he’s referring to was me responding to someone that claimed Maurers “body” won’t cut it. Saying his body won’t cut it after a landing like that proved otherwise is also just pure speculation given the fact that there was absolutely no bodily injury at any point. If anything his body proved more than capable of the abuse. And I'm pretty sure I didn’t say any of the others “would’ve” been worse off. Iirc I said “could’ve” due to the extra weight they carry. The flexibility that I talked about however WAS speculation because I really don’t know. That’s just a guess.
 
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1vol8 said:
Now that’s a good point. And 100% correct. But the original comment he’s referring to was me responding to someone that claimed Maurers “body” won’t cut it. Saying his body won’t cut it after a landing like that proved otherwise is also just pure speculation given the fact that there was absolutely no bodily injury at any point. If anything his body proved more than capable of the abuse. And I'm pretty sure I didn’t say any of the others “would’ve” been worse off. Iirc I said “could’ve” due to the extra weight they carry. The flexibility that I talked about however WAS speculation because I really don’t know. That’s just a guess.
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The only thing I had issue with his size is that at his former weight, ( I’m sure he was told to gain weight), I do worry how many hard shots the Kid could take. If he’s the starter and took the kind of beating JG has in his career I don’t know what his medical history would look like. If I had to get smacked in my blindside by a 245 lbs linebacker I’d rather be 210 than 190. A lot more padding to land on 😂. As far as the shot he took from Georgia in the ribs, I don’t care how big you are that hurts anyone.
 
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DarkAvenger said:
The only thing I had issue with his size is that at his former weight, ( I’m sure he was told to gain weight), I do worry how many hard shots the Kid could take. If he’s the starter and took the kind of beating JG has in his career I don’t know what his medical history would look like. If I had to get smacked in my blindside by a 245 lbs linebacker I’d rather be 210 than 190. A lot more padding to land on 😂. As far as the shot he took from Georgia in the ribs, I don’t care how big you are that hurts anyone.
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Hill is leaving UT
 
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DarkAvenger said:
The only thing I had issue with his size is that at his former weight, ( I’m sure he was told to gain weight), I do worry how many hard shots the Kid could take. If he’s the starter and took the kind of beating JG has in his career I don’t know what his medical history would look like. If I had to get smacked in my blindside by a 245 lbs linebacker I’d rather be 210 than 190. A lot more padding to land on 😂. As far as the shot he took from Georgia in the ribs, I don’t care how big you are that hurts anyone.
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I understand that completely. But his listed weight has been 195 for quite a while now (not sure how often it’s updated) and I know for a fact that after the spring game last year he was at 205. HB was recently reported at 215. Maurer is 6’3 and Bailey is 6’5. There’s roughly a 20 lb difference, so contrary to popular belief they are both built about the same. But I agree with you wholeheartedly. Idc how much you weigh or who you are. That hit vs UGA was nasty and likely would’ve hurt anyone. The following week vs MSU was even more nasty. And some fans on here contradict themselves by stressing a player giving his all for Tennessee, yet criticize Maurer for doing just that and suggesting he’s weak. That kid could’ve easily been paralyzed or worse and all he did was jump right right up and talk chit to the defense. If that’s not giving your all idk what is.
 
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1vol8 said:
I understand that completely. But his listed weight has been 195 for quite a while now (not sure how often it’s updated) and I know for a fact that after the spring game last year he was at 205. HB was recently reported at 215. Maurer is 6’3 and Bailey is 6’5. There’s roughly a 20 lb difference, so contrary to popular belief they are both built about the same. But I agree with you wholeheartedly. Idc how much you weigh or who you are. That hit vs UGA was nasty and likely would’ve hurt anyone. The following week vs MSU was even more nasty. And some fans on here contradict themselves by stressing a player giving his all for Tennessee, yet criticize Maurer for doing just that and suggesting he’s weak. That kid could’ve easily been paralyzed or worse and all he did was jump right right up and talk chit to the defense. If that’s not giving your all idk what is.
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I’ll be honest, I don’t believe those numbers are accurate. JG was supposedly 215 last year and he absolutely wasn’t. Look at dobbs at 215 and JG. Take the numbers with a large grain of salt.
 
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DarkAvenger said:
I’ll be honest, I don’t believe those numbers are accurate. JG was supposedly 215 last year and he absolutely wasn’t. Look at dobbs at 215 and JG. Take the numbers with a large grain of salt.
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Absolutely! I’ve seen HB and Maurer standing beside each other and I personally think they are built the same. But there are other things outside of muscle mass or body fat that can give you weight. I think some people have heavy bones imo because I can’t count how many times someone smaller than myself stood on a scale and weighed more than me.
 
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1vol8 said:
Absolutely! I’ve seen HB and Maurer standing beside each other and I personally think they are built the same. But there are other things outside of muscle mass or body fat that can give you weight. I think some people have heavy bones imo because I can’t count how many times someone smaller than myself stood on a scale and weighed more than me.
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Drink some mo milk!
 
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