Mark to market accounting… HELP!

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SpaceCoastVol

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I am thinking of starting a trading company, and one of the requirements is to use mark to market accounting. I might as well be reading Chinese when I read about it, and I was wondering if any of you bidness people might know how that works. For example: If you sell a put option that expires OTM, how is the profit/loss calculated differently for MtM? Or… If you sell a put then later buy to close it, same question; how does MtM change the P&L?

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I am thinking of starting a trading company, and one of the requirements is to use mark to market accounting. I might as well be reading Chinese when I read about it, and I was wondering if any of you bidness people might know how that works. For example: If you sell a put option that expires OTM, how is the profit/loss calculated differently for MtM? Or… If you sell a put then later buy to close it, same question; how does MtM change the P&L?

signed,
confused

Mark to Market is what Enron used to perpetuate their fraud. They hid loses in off balance sheet entities that carried overstated valuations.

I think it’s more of a way to reflect more realistic valuations on company balance sheets. One of the posters experienced in public accounting can give more factual information than me. I wouldn’t think that it alters the basis for tax calculations unless there’s a rule in the IRS code to collect taxes on appreciated assets.
 
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Mark-to-market (MTM) accounting, a key part of Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP), values assets and liabilities at their current fair market value, providing a more dynamic view of a company's financial position compared to historical cost accounting.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
What it is:
Mark-to-market accounting, also known as fair value accounting, involves valuing assets and liabilities based on what they would cost to replace or sell in the current market, rather than their original purchase price.
Why it's important:
MTM helps to:
Provide a more accurate and realistic view of a company's financial health.
Ensure that financial statements reflect current market conditions.
Help stakeholders, such as investors, understand the value of their investments.
How it works:
Assets: Assets are valued at their current market price, meaning the price they would fetch if sold today.
Liabilities: Liabilities are valued at the amount needed to settle them in the current market.
GAAP and MTM:
The Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB) provides guidelines for MTM under GAAP.
Common in certain industries:
MTM is commonly used in industries like finance, energy trading, and real estate, where assets and liabilities are frequently traded and their values fluctuate.
Potential Volatility:
MTM can lead to fluctuations in financial statements as asset values change, which can be viewed as either a positive or negative depending on the situation.
Historical Context:
MTM has evolved as a way to provide more transparency and accuracy in financial reporting.
Regulatory Requirements:
Financial institutions and other regulated entities are often required to use MTM accounting to ensure compliance with regulatory standards.
 
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Thanks @Thunder Good-Oil . When I have more time I will read thru those references. MtM accounting is a government requirement to establish Trader Tax Status when setting up a trading company. It is generally geared towards day traders, which I am not, but I am a high volume options trader (1500 per year). Most of them expire OTM, but it still doesn't make sense to value them at something different than what the 'straight' buy/sell difference is. I have read that blurb about it being a more realistic valuation, and that is the part that doesn't make sense. For example: I sell a put option for $10, it expires OTM... how can my profit be anything other than $10? Under MtM, it seems that it can be.
 
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@SpaceCoastVol

Im assuming the brokerage you are using can provide you the market value of puts, options, long positions, etc as well as your basis for your balance sheet date. If value of your option exceeds your basis at your balance sheet date, you'd debit/increase "Investment Asset" and credit "Unrealized Gain". If the value of your option is less than your cost basis, you'd debit unrealized loss and credit/reduce "Investment Asset"

MtM would require you to revalue the basis Investment Assets to "market" at the balance sheet date. I would assume you would have to revalue annually (Mutual funds revalue daily, for example) but please dont hold me to that.
 
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Obviously, if you become trader make sure you deduct

Home office deduction
Phone expenses
Internet expenses
Any TV subscriptions used to access CNBC, etc
CPA, tax prep fees
 
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Still think your broker will have the FMV of your holdings as of 12/31. Your MtM adjustment should be the difference of what you paid for your holdings (basis) that are held on 12/31 vs the FMV of those holdings at 12/31...
 

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