Manning video

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VolsnRavens said:
I love how he still says "Yes sir" to David Cutcliffe. Living up here between D.C. and Baltimore, people are always amazed at my southern hospitality and manners. Yet to me, it's who I am and how I was raised. Not to say there aren't nice people up here, but manners up here are seriously lacking compared to when I come down home every year to visit. Just a matter of time before I come home for good. Go Vols
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I was born in Maryland and spend quite a few years there but also graduated from UT and spent a number of years in Knoxville. Yes - there is a huge difference in manners. Historically, people used to call Baltimore & DC southern cities but they sure aren't anymore. I think they more closely resemble the northeast. Definitely some rude people up there, especially on the DC side. I live in Phoenix now and the manners are somewhere between MD and TN (the imports from CA and the Northeast lower the manners :). Good to see we share the Vols - Ravens connection. I'm more of a college fan, but still pull for the Ravens. Loved it when they went up to NE and beat the snot out of Brady in 2009 and 2012. Should have walked away with a win in 2011 too.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
So?
He executes the plays to perfection more times than not and wins.
Isn't that what it's all about?
Or maybe you are into gawdy numbers in losing efforts?
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....his Oline and Receivers also execute the plays to perfection. Amazes me how Brady gets all of the credit for anything positive that happens. You would think he was the only one playing. He had very little to do with NEs first 3 SBs---defense and kicking was the factor.
 
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PhoenixAZVol said:
....his Oline and Receivers also execute the plays to perfection. Amazes me how Brady gets all of the credit for anything positive that happens. You would think he was the only one playing. He had very little to do with NEs first 3 SBs---defense and kicking was the factor.
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The abilities of New England’s coaching staff to create routes where receivers run wide open cannot be ignored, either. They create more space than any other team by far. It is a shame McDaniels proved to be such an ass as a HC, because he is a great OC who deserves another shot.

Plus, no other staff makes in-game adjustments on either side of the ball like NE. Especially with their lines. They completely turned that Jax game around and dominated up front on both sides of the ball in the second half. No other staff even comes close.
 
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Too bad the time Manning spent with coach Jones didn't really help or at least it didn't show up on game day. But, then again, bygones be bygones.
 
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VolsnRavens said:
I love how he still says "Yes sir" to David Cutcliffe. Living up here between D.C. and Baltimore, people are always amazed at my southern hospitality and manners. Yet to me, it's who I am and how I was raised. Not to say there aren't nice people up here, but manners up here are seriously lacking compared to when I come down home every year to visit. Just a matter of time before I come home for good. Go Vols
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I grew up in TN and that lesson was beaten into me by coaches my entire athletic career. As I made it to being a professional athlete, it was something coaches and managers commented on frequently.....that I always showed respect to everyone connected with the team. I certainly was not always the best athlete, and I believe my attitude and manners took me further than I would have been able to go on talent alone. As I left sports to start a business career, it is something I now notice in employees and employers.

Showing respect is far more about who you are than about who the other person is.

Manning is a great example for young athletes to follow. I have no idea if he ever wants to coach.....but I have no doubt he would be great at it.
 
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99gator said:
This.

I’m still trying to wrap my head around starting 8 Super Bowls and being the league MVP at 40.

We’ll see what happens over the years with regular season records.

No one is touching Brady’s postseason records for a long, long time. If ever
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I think it comes down to could Peyton do what Brady did? And vice versa. Some things yes, some things no.
 
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PhoenixAZVol said:
....his Oline and Receivers also execute the plays to perfection. Amazes me how Brady gets all of the credit for anything positive that happens. You would think he was the only one playing. He had very little to do with NEs first 3 SBs---defense and kicking was the factor.
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With the exception of Gronk, the guys he throws to are cast offs or mediocre talents. He was also able to play with Randy Moss for a couple of years.

Amendola was cut twice in his career. Wes Welker was an undrafted player and cut by San Diego.

No one, anywhere, would trade their WR corps for the Patriot WR corps.
 
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99gator said:
With the exception of Gronk, the guys he throws to are cast offs or mediocre talents. He was also able to play with Randy Moss for a couple of years.

Amendola was cut twice in his career. Wes Welker was an undrafted player and cut by San Diego.

No one, anywhere, would trade their WR corps for the Patriot WR corps.
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A couple of things stand out to me. First, there isn't a better system in football then their is on the defensive and offensive staffs of New England. I have heard the argument of "New England's WR corp sucks" more than I want to.

Every system is different, case in point I'm not gonna send a H-TE to the Titans because they aren't built that way (he wouldn't fit into their system). NE WR's are the same way, they have smaller more liquid WR's. So, you can't say they suck because they failed in another system. Julian Edelman is one of the best WR's in the NFL and Amendola is under rated (I'm not just saying that because it fits my argument).

Chris Hogan is a burner and fits that role in New England. The Pats are very good at playing "money ball" but just because they deal like they do doesn't mean that Amendola, Edelman, Hogan, Cooks, etc... sucks.
 
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99gator said:
With the exception of Gronk, the guys he throws to are cast offs or mediocre talents. He was also able to play with Randy Moss for a couple of years.

Amendola was cut twice in his career. Wes Welker was an undrafted player and cut by San Diego.

No one, anywhere, would trade their WR corps for the Patriot WR corps.
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It’s all about matchups and finding holes in zone defense. What linebacker in the league can cover Julian Edelman or Danny Amendola consistently? They’re very quick receivers with excellent hands.
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
It’s all about matchups and finding holes in zone defense. What linebacker in the league can cover Julian Edelman or Danny Amendola consistently? They’re very quick receivers with excellent hands.
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Also in match zone like you seen in Atlanta and Seattle gives the RB a lot of free yards (which is why you have seen them so much)
 
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Caleb59seal said:
A couple of things stand out to me. First, there isn't a better system in football then their is on the defensive and offensive staffs of New England. I have heard the argument of "New England's WR corp sucks" more than I want to.

Every system is different, case in point I'm not gonna send a H-TE to the Titans because they aren't built that way (he wouldn't fit into their system). NE WR's are the same way, they have smaller more liquid WR's. So, you can't say they suck because they failed in another system. Julian Edelman is one of the best WR's in the NFL and Amendola is under rated (I'm not just saying that because it fits my argument).

Chris Hogan is a burner and fits that role in New England. The Pats are very good at playing "money ball" but just because they deal like they do doesn't mean that Amendola, Edelman, Hogan, Cooks, etc... sucks.
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On the flip side of the "tired of hearing their WR sucks", I'm tired of hearing about the system.

They have changed OC's and DC's over and over again in NE.

They say the NFL is a copycat league. Why is no one copying what they do? If they are, why is no one near as good at doing it?

I'll translate the "WR fits their system" stuff. These dudes couldn't play anywhere else and be productive. You tell me where Edelman or Amendola could play and get it done. It's the reason they never pay any of those dudes either. It's also the reason no other team goes out and pays them. You're going to have to look long and hard to find a New England WR that got a big contract from another club, because it didn't happen. Hogan, yet another guy, who was with 4 different clubs before coming to NE.

They couldn't play anywhere else because there's no one else who could consistently hit fleas on time and on target over and over again.

Even Brees and Rodgers, as good as they are, can't do that.
 
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99gator said:
On the flip side of the "tired of hearing their WR sucks", I'm tired of hearing about the system.

They have changed OC's and DC's over and over again in NE.

They say the NFL is a copycat league. Why is no one copying what they do? If they are, why is no one near as good at doing it?

I'll translate the "WR fits their system" stuff. These dudes couldn't play anywhere else and be productive. You tell me where Edelman or Amendola could play and get it done. It's the reason they never pay any of those dudes either. It's also the reason no other team goes out and pays them. You're going to have to look long and hard to find a New England WR that got a big contract from another club, because it didn't happen. Hogan, yet another guy, who was with 4 different clubs before coming to NE.

They couldn't play anywhere else because there's no one else who could consistently hit fleas on time and on target over and over again.

Even Brees and Rodgers, as good as they are, can't do that.
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Brees won a Super Bowl doing that. Edelman could go almost anywhere and get paid. NE will have to pay him on his next contract. Also, as far as the "their has been OC's and DC's coming and going" tell me the last time they had a DC or OC that wasn't brought through the NE system.
I can go into the nuts and bolts of their offense and defense but that would take some time... So I will just say this...

New England is a Erhardt Perkins system (word concept offense) if you look at the San Fransisco 49ers back in the "hay days" you will see a lot of familiarities (Bill Belichick and Bill Walsh became good friends because of the many convos Belichick had with Walsh about his offense with his time in NY). Also, whenever Charlie Wies appeared he was the one that pushed the offense toward what has evolved to today (pushed toward but he isn't the reason why it is, what it is today) which is a nod to an run n' shoot offense with all the option routes they run (usually you will get an offensive system that runs it's course and then you will pick and chose from the "mainstay concepts" that you like). Charlie ended up spending a summer with The founder of the run n' shoot to pick his brain about the possibilities. So with all of that and the identity of running the football in a "Giants esque way" the characteristics of your personnel will be different. Furthermore, whenever you don't need the a-typical WR that the NFL covets then you open up your salary and your sample size.
 
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99gator said:
On the flip side of the "tired of hearing their WR sucks", I'm tired of hearing about the system.

They have changed OC's and DC's over and over again in NE.

They say the NFL is a copycat league. Why is no one copying what they do? If they are, why is no one near as good at doing it?

I'll translate the "WR fits their system" stuff. These dudes couldn't play anywhere else and be productive. You tell me where Edelman or Amendola could play and get it done. It's the reason they never pay any of those dudes either. It's also the reason no other team goes out and pays them. You're going to have to look long and hard to find a New England WR that got a big contract from another club, because it didn't happen. Hogan, yet another guy, who was with 4 different clubs before coming to NE.

They couldn't play anywhere else because there's no one else who could consistently hit fleas on time and on target over and over again.

Even Brees and Rodgers, as good as they are, can't do that.
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Uh, have they changed their head coach?
 
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EZE said:
Uh, have they changed their head coach?
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Or their GM? Oh wait....

Kraft, Belichick, and Brady will be in Canton. I’d take that combo over a WR or two any day.

The Patriots as an organization have figured out how to get 53 guys on the team that prioritize winning. That is VERY difficult to do in professional sports these days. Brady is an exceptional competitor and clearly wants to win more than anything else. But it’s the dynamic they have all created with the coaching/managing of Belichick and the support of the owner that has allowed Brady to be the on-field recipient of the best organization in modern professional sports.
 
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99gator said:
They say the NFL is a copycat league. Why is no one copying what they do? If they are, why is no one near as good at doing it?
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