Looks like Coach Jeremy Pruitt wasn't the only one

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GregAmsler said:
I thought he would fail (and said so at the time) because his offense doesn't fit Nebraska. I thought they should've hired Paul Johnson to get back to the option game. Nebraska just can't access the athletes he needs to run that offense...plus, it's hard to throw in the snow. But I didn't think he'd be THIS bad.

I also think that Frost could do very well in a sun belt state like Florida. Okay, he already has...but I mean at one of the big 3 schools there. His offense is tailor made for that type of athlete. He would actually scare me at Florida. Fortunately, he's tainted enough now that UF wouldn't touch him if they are looking for a coach in the next few years.

Nebraska needs to get back to running power option football and pumping their players with steroids if they wanna win big again.
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Nebraska can be a football power again. Lincoln is about as attractive as Norman Oklahoma, Tuscaloosa Alabama, or Ann Arbor Michigan.. Top athletes go to those schools and they aren't destination locations. If Nebraska is willing to pony up NIL money they will be a power again.
 
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aaronvol said:
Meh...actually they just gave their guys lightning in a bottle. One of the most "juiced up" teams of all time was the Osborne teams of the 90's. Hate to say it...but most college teams in the 90's followed suit...especially after playing against them.
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In the 80s and 90s you had high school and Little League teams juicing. Go back and look at some not all our own state powerhouses in football then who disappeared over time. I can recall taking a young 13 year old Babe Ruth team to a tournament in one such power community back then and most every kid on their team already had the steroid neck. I admit I almost did the same for my son, glad I didn't looking back on it. Not too long after it was found one physician in that area was the source of all the juicing. It wasn't illegal at the time but became that way shortly after. The community high school I'm speaking of has not made a state championship football appearance since.
 
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Whenever a coach is fired anywhere there is always talk about how bad of a person they are, how they cheated, how lost the program was, and ext.. most places cheated before the NIL and still are.. I just don’t believe a lot of it.. I’m from Tuscaloosa huge Vol fan, and can’t stand Alabama.. Meet coach Butch Jones while I worked at Best Buy he came in to buy a sims card for his phone.. We talked Tennessee football for 30 min and Alabama.. He’s actually a really nice guy..
 
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GregAmsler said:
I mean...Pruitt had a great resume as a coordinator, even if you don't count his time at Bama (and you should count his time at Bama). Kirby Smart and Bob Stoops had never been head coaches at any level, either. Bill Snyder had been an assistant at various levels for 25+ years, but never a HC, when KState hired him. That's why ADs have to look beyond a resume, I guess. Pruitt didn't have the mental makeup to be a HC. But plenty of coordinators become great head coaches.
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And too early to know if he’ll one day be considered a “great” HC, but former DC Mel Tucker is currently winning, and certainly making bank, at MSU. And Tucker was a guy Fulmer reportedly considered for HC before hiring Pruitt.

On a related topic, I thought the one task Fulmer would ace as the AD was hiring a good Head Football Coach. Boy, was I dead wrong!!!
 
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VolsSince78 said:
And too early to know if he’ll one day be considered a “great” HC, but former DC Mel Tucker is currently winning, and certainly making bank, at MSU. And Tucker was a guy Fulmer reportedly considered for HC before hiring Pruitt.

On a related topic, I thought the one task Fulmer would ace as the AD was hiring a good Head Football Coach. Boy, was I dead wrong!!!
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Supposedly, it was down to Tucker and Pruitt. So close to getting it right. Glad with who we have now though.

I was wrong about Pruitt, right about Frost. My % is about as good as most ADs. 😉
 
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VOLfrombama said:
We are so lucky to have Coach Heupel. This type of stuff only makes me appreciate him more.
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Generally speaking and not specifically directed at you, but I'll be curious to see how long this "appreciation" of Heupel lasts especially with OU and Texas entering the league. I'm guessing 1...maybe 2 more years max unless he wins the east.
 
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There are no sure things in selecting a CFB head coach. It is not just the quality of the Coach, it is also the fit between the Coach and the program. A bad coach will always be a bad coach. But a potentially good coach could be a terrible match to a program. That is why these ludicrous buyout amounts are so insane. Not saying this is true of Frost, but who knows? Sometimes the marriage just isn’t going to work?
 
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My wife and I place bets on the apps for college football, all of it "very" small time, where we compete more against each other than anything. But she does take it serious. She was researching the Nebraska - Northwestern game and came across this story: Amie Just: Frost clarifies comments, but Husker O-line vomit saga makes me queasy

She not only said (and put her money against) that Nebraska would lose, she said that no team would play for a guy like this and he probably would not last the year.

We avoided a bigger disaster than even Jeremy Pruitt.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Generally speaking and not specifically directed at you, but I'll be curious to see how long this "appreciation" of Heupel lasts especially with OU and Texas entering the league. I'm guessing 1...maybe 2 more years max unless he wins the east.
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Yeah he's definitely going to have to win often if anyone expects longevity. Just knowing that we are finding some success, winning some games, and building a better culture is desperately needed progress though
 
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landscapingvol said:
Was Scott Frost in over his head at Nebraska? Probably, but he did take over a dreadful UCF program that went winless the year before he got there and won 19 games over the next two seasons. Jeremy Pruitt had never been a head coach at any level including high school. Nebraska's problems are much deeper than Scott Frost, Pruitt was a horrendous hire.
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Pruitt kinda did better than Frost...
 
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arkyvol said:
I don't think what happened is a fair judgement on Frost's ability as a coach. Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne caught lightning in a bottle (before the onset of things like NIL). Nebraska is in the middle of nowhere. How do you recruit to a place like that?
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You recruit like it is NOT the middle of nowhere. Once upon a time, Nebraska was a well respected program. And if you find the players with the right mindset? Those young men are going to be more comfortable out there than Chicago or New York City. If they were, there would be colleges in those two cities with national championship stories to tell.

You bring in competent administrators, and competent coaches? You can win anywhere. And they have done that in Lincoln.
 
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