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When we first signed these 32 players in the 2014 I viewed this class as the one that would eventually bring a national championship to Tennessee. Now don't get me wrong, a lot of these players have done A LOT for the Vols in their time here. Example: (Barnett, Malone, Kelly Jr, Hurd for 2 years until this past season) and there's some more. The thing that really grabs my attention is how much attrition this class had. I understand that transfers happen every year but this seems over the top IMO. I've broken down the class as a whole and marked the players on whether they transferred, are still on the team, or have graduated/went pro.

The orange circle means they are still on the team
The black circle means they have transferred
The blue circle means they graduated/went pro
 
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CamVol8 said:
When we first signed these 32 players in the 2014 I viewed this class as the one that would eventually bring a national championship to Tennessee. Now don't get me wrong, a lot of these players have done A LOT for the Vols in their time here. Example: (Barnett, Malone, Kelly Jr, Hurd for 2 years until this past season) and there's some more. The thing that really grabs my attention is how much attrition this class had. I understand that transfers happen every year but this seems over the top IMO. I've broken down the class as a whole and marked the players on whether they transferred, are still on the team, or have graduated/went pro.

The orange circle means they are still on the team
The black circle means they have transferred
The blue circle means they graduated/went pro
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What color for discipline reasons or just up and quitting?
 
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CamVol8 said:
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Good graphics. This is another example for why recruiting is such a waste of money and time for universities. Need to draft graduated high school players like pro baseball does and pay them minor league salaries. If they can't play, cut them.
 
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VolRoger said:
Good graphics. This is another example for why recruiting is such a waste of money and time for universities. Need to draft graduated high school players like pro baseball does and pay them minor league salaries. If they can't play, cut them.
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Blue font?
 
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Our attrition is no worse than any other school.

or alternately:

Our attrition is no worse than any other school.
 
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17 are either still on the team, graduated or turned pro. Not too bad IMO when typically you can only sign up to 25 players anyway. I doubt most schools keep more than 17 players from any one class for 4 years.
 
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Doesn't seem out of whack to me.

Can divide it into VFLs and non-VFLs, if you will. VFLs are the blue dots (5) and orange dots (12), for total of 17. Non-VFLs, black dots, number 14. So a bit over half on the "good" side of the ledger. (note: one of the 32, you assigned no dot to).

Just glancing through, looks like many of the non-VFLs transferred to another school because they weren't getting as much playing time as they thought they merited (Wharton, Creamer, Raulerson, etc.). A few were attitude/fit issues (Hurd, Helm). Some maybe just gave up on getting anywhere in footballl (Mosley?).

The point being, most senior classes at most programs are in the neighborhood of half to two-thirds the size of the freshman cohort in which they started. It's a fact of life in college sports, where so many different things can trip you up (academics, discipline, injury, loss of desire to keep playing, and so on).

It is natural attrition in a tough, demanding sport mixed in an academic framework. I suspect the 2014 Vols signing class may be a bit smaller than the average, three years later, but not remarkably so.
 
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CamVol8 said:
When we first signed these 32 players in the 2014 I viewed this class as the one that would eventually bring a national championship to Tennessee. Now don't get me wrong, a lot of these players have done A LOT for the Vols in their time here. Example: (Barnett, Malone, Kelly Jr, Hurd for 2 years until this past season) and there's some more. The thing that really grabs my attention is how much attrition this class had. I understand that transfers happen every year but this seems over the top IMO. I've broken down the class as a whole and marked the players on whether they transferred, are still on the team, or have graduated/went pro.

The orange circle means they are still on the team
The black circle means they have transferred
The blue circle means they graduated/went pro
Click to expand...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQjbXq4WLSo
 
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CamVol8 said:
When we first signed these 32 players in the 2014 I viewed this class as the one that would eventually bring a national championship to Tennessee. Now don't get me wrong, a lot of these players have done A LOT for the Vols in their time here. Example: (Barnett, Malone, Kelly Jr, Hurd for 2 years until this past season) and there's some more. The thing that really grabs my attention is how much attrition this class had. I understand that transfers happen every year but this seems over the top IMO. I've broken down the class as a whole and marked the players on whether they transferred, are still on the team, or have graduated/went pro.

The orange circle means they are still on the team
The black circle means they have transferred
The blue circle means they graduated/went pro
Click to expand...

this is actually pretty normal

I have tracked this for many years. over 90% of the time a school signs 30 or more recruits, over 50% of them become attrition numbers. this is across the power 5 conferences since 2002.
 
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The attrition rate for any class is going to be about 50 percent--about half will leave the team for reasons of transfer, career-ending injury, kicked off team, etc. That is discouragingly high, but, yea, I think it applies to most major programs. Vandy and schools with excellent academic reputations might be an exception.
 
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VolRoger said:
Good graphics. This is another example for why recruiting is such a waste of money and time for universities. Need to draft graduated high school players like pro baseball does and pay them minor league salaries. If they can't play, cut them.
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...wouldn't doubt that, or something like that could very well happen, but for now...I'm good...:)

GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Are we really missing those that left? The ones that stuck it out and stayed, are the ones I want representing the University.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
Our attrition is no worse than any other school.

or alternately:

Our attrition is no worse than any other school.
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I thought the same thing but looked into two schools to see here are the results

2014 Class

Tennesee 11 still in school 19 out
Georgia 14 still in school 7 out
Alabama 18 still in school 8 out

So I attrition is about double in that year.
 
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rcrrcr said:
I thought the same thing but looked into two schools to see here are the results

2014 Class

Tennesee 11 still in school 19 out
Georgia 14 still in school 7 out
Alabama 18 still in school 8 out

So I attrition is about double in that year.
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So about a third leaving is normal. UT is closer to only a third staying.
 
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