LK Said We Have To First Beat UF, Bama, and LSU

#1
rexvol

rexvol

The Minister of Defense
Joined
Apr 29, 2006
Messages
18,124
Likes
54
#1
In recruiting. A thread on TOS got me to thinking.

Do you diagree with any of those comments made by Kiffin?

In order to compete with the top teams in America, do we need the top talent or are we trying a different approach now with Dooley? We're just going to "coach 'em up" and put in a "character program"?
Click to expand...

from poster on TOS
 
#2
#2
I think you have to have a little of both. We have to have good talent with upside, but as we saw with Fulmer, if they aren't coached up usually they won't shine
 
#4
#4
Got to have talent to win, but if your bringing in a core of guys that will work their asses off for the Power T it will be contagious to all members of the team. Thats how you get a team thats hungry to line up each and every snap to play at the tops of collegiate football.
 
#5
#5
I think some teams such as Boise have shown that talent isnt everything
 
#6
#6
We have to consistently get top 7 or 8 classes with an occasional top 2 or 3 class. If you're pulling in top 15-20 classes, it's not going to fly... especially when Florida, Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Auburn are all ahead of us.
 
#7
#7
VT doesnt ever crack the top ten and they are consistent winners
 
#8
#8
Volfan8282 said:
We have to consistently get top 7 or 8 classes with an occasional top 2 or 3 class. If you're pulling in top 15-20 classes, it's not going to fly... especially when Florida, Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Auburn are all ahead of us.
Click to expand...

This.
 
#9
#9
rexvol said:
I think some teams such as Boise have shown that talent isnt everything
Click to expand...

They also don't play in the SEC. They would lose 3-4 games a year in the SEC... not bad necessarily, but coaching only takes you so far.
 
#13
#13
If Dooley coaches like his daddy he will need top talent in order to win..? I hope he proves me wrong...BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
#16
#16
Volfan8282 said:
They also don't play in the SEC. They would lose 3-4 games a year in the SEC... not bad necessarily, but coaching only takes you so far.
Click to expand...

Yep. They'd have to recruit much better than they do to get to a 3 loss level in SEC competition, though.
 
#17
#17
Volfan8282 said:
We have to consistently get top 7 or 8 classes with an occasional top 2 or 3 class. If you're pulling in top 15-20 classes, it's not going to fly... especially when Florida, Bama, Georgia, LSU, and Auburn are all ahead of us.
Click to expand...

/agree. IMO Florida has not done a good job of coaching up talent in the last few years and I think some professional commentators have mentioned this. Same thing with LSU. Between Florida and Alabama, Alabama is the biggest long term threat to us. Florida will be the first to fall.
 
#18
#18
In middle school talent alone wins. In High School, talent with a little discipline wins. In the SEC and beyond(nfl) perfect discipline with talent wins.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
#19
#19
Just think of A-- holes last class with the approach of getting top talent.How has that worked out Three arrested before the season is over,headliner of the class gone.The roster is in much worse shape than when he arrived and the best lineman we had is throwing away a year just so he can join them next year.If you go and look at all the great teams in any sport they all have the stars but they also have very good and WELL COACHED roll players.I think CCS is an up grade over CEO,Although Monty is a great NFL coach the collage game is different, Boise St. defense has done more with less than any other program in the country.
Don't get me wrong I was drinking the Kool-Aid by the gallons last year but after the secondarys started piling up I did not want to become the U part two.It's not all about the victories to me it's about how you win(with class).When the kid left the field after the bowl game and disrespected CFB I was through with him.
 
#21
#21
rexvol said:
that ACC team took us to the woodshed last year
Click to expand...

Haha ok? We weren't very good last year in case you didn't notice. We had signs of really good coaching and player development, but our talent/depth were abysmal... especially on the lines.
 
#23
#23
I agree somewhat, but having the ability to scout talent combined with coaching has helped schools like Boise. They couldn't beat the teams they have played without some really solid athletes and schemes.
 
#24
#24
Well we are playing an Oregon team that is a border line top 10 program now and they are usually luck to get a top 25 class. Sometimes a great scheme can make up for lesser talent. I will take an Oregon team with the 15 class over a USC team with the number 1 class.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top