Letter to Randy Sanders

[Dagreek1998]

In the small chance that Randy Sanders or his family has an opportunity to read this, I would like to say the following:

As a fan of UT, I would like to thank you for the time that you have spent coaching at this great University. I cannot begin to express my anger at the way you have been dragged through the mud by individuals who think they are more qualified to coach the offense then you. These are the same people who have enough trouble with correct spelling on their posts, let alone coach at the division one college level. These are the types of people who don't understand the sacrifices you and more importantly your family has made for UT. The nights you spent watching film or game planning or at practice instead of being home. I am ashamed at the ignorant postings of individuals and the foolish conjecture of sports writer who couldn't coach their way out of a paper bag. I will not pretend to never have second guessed your play calling but I can honestly say that I realize that you have made this team better for have being here. I would like to quote something a coach once told me long ago to prepare me for the coaching environment.

"If you win your lucky, and if you lose, your an idiot"

I guess as long as people have the ability to fire out insults in the sad attempt to improve there confidence, this quote will forever ring true over fan sites and local news sites. I would just like to once again say thank you ost-20645-1119625378: and may God bless you wherever you may go.

From a true fan.

 

[donsargegolf]

Originally posted by Dagreek1998@Nov 4, 2005 12:55 PM
In the small chance that Randy Sanders or his family has an opportunity to read this, I would like to say the following:

As a fan of UT, I would like to thank you for the time that you have spent coaching at this great University. I cannot begin to express my anger at the way you have been dragged through the mud by individuals who think they are more qualified to coach the offense then you. These are the same people who have enough trouble with correct spelling on their posts, let alone coach at the division one college level. These are the types of people who don't understand the sacrifices you and more importantly your family has made for UT. The nights you spent watching film or game planning or at practice instead of being home. I am ashamed at the ignorant postings of individuals and the foolish conjecture of sports writer who couldn't coach their way out of a paper bag. I will not pretend to never have second guessed your play calling but I can honestly say that I realize that you have made this team better for have being here. I would like to quote something a coach once told me long ago to prepare me for the coaching environment.

"If you win your lucky, and if you lose, your an idiot"

I guess as long as people have the ability to fire out insults in the sad attempt to improve there confidence, this quote will forever ring true over fan sites and local news sites. I would just like to once again say thank you  ost-20645-1119625378: and may God bless you wherever you may go.

From a true fan.

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Dagreek1998, agree with the effort part of your comment but RS was in over his head and UT Football is better off without his effort.

 

[CSpindizzy]

I love how people like to judge intelligence of others on this board with spelling errors. As for your little judgment on those who can't spell and their 'savage' behavior of Sanders, I'd point out that it is "improve THEIR confidence" not THERE.

So until you can come up with a better way to rebut others than spelling issues, since you too have that problem, I'd stick to using the spell-check and finding an I LOVE RANDY SANDERS website to post to.

 

[wvorange]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 4, 2005 2:19 PM
Dagreek1998, agree with the effort part of your comment but RS was in over his head and UT Football is better off without his effort.

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I think it was right on about thanking him for his effort. He was not in over his head. He was not allowed to run the offense, PF made sure of that. He had no control over other offensive coaches. If you are given a job and your boss makes all the decisions, then are you over your head? RS was the best coach we had on offense. Good Job Dagreek, except for the spelling part.

 

[wilburnVol]

Originally posted by Dagreek1998@Nov 4, 2005 3:25 PM

I guess as long as people have the ability to fire out insults in the sad attempt to improve there confidence, this quote will forever ring true over fan sites and local news sites. I would just like to once again say thank you  ost-20645-1119625378: and may God bless you wherever you may go.

From a true fan.

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A "true fan" eh?

I think we have a solemn and important right to criticize. Again we need to define and explain a word. The word "criticize" has been much abused. Many of us are prone to think of criticism as adverse comment - a destructive attack on anything considered. To me, that is only half of the word, and the least important half. The more important half of criticism is constructive, helpful, stimulating comment. To criticize in a broad sense of the word, is to analyze, to examine for weaknesses and flaws and for points of strength; to recognize shortcomings and possibilities for improvement. The exercise of the critical faculty is of primary importance to any football program which is to stand or forge ahead. It is absolutely necessary.

So was dumping Sanders.

God's will be done !! :yahoo:

 

[donsargegolf]

Originally posted by wvorange@Nov 4, 2005 4:08 PM
I think it was right on about thanking him for his effort. He was not in over his head. He was not allowed to run the offense, PF made sure of that. He had no control over other offensive coaches. If you are given a job and your boss makes all the decisions, then are you over your head? RS was the best coach we had on offense. Good Job Dagreek, except for the spelling part.

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He could not play( 3 int's against BC, loss at home to MSU in 86), he could not coach, and SURELY could not be OC(99-05). Thank goodness for intervention. May RS name NEVER pass this website or lips again!

 

[JasonCajun]

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These are the same people who have enough trouble with correct spelling on their posts, let alone coach at the division one college level.

"If you win your lucky, and if you lose, your an idiot"

I guess as long as people have the ability to fire out insults in the sad attempt to improve there confidence

:lolabove: You're is a contraction of you are. Your is possessive. Their is possessive. They're is a contraction of they are. Don't talk about spelling if you can't get it right yourself.

And as far as the other bunch of hooey about working long hours. Well, he got paid well over 6 figures to work those long hours. There are many people out there who work those long hours and make sacrifices and make nowhere near 6 figures. So spare me your sad, sad song. :cry:

 

[utvolpj]

So who's next for CPF when this experiment doesn't work? Who else falls on the sword?

When CPF was OC, everyone blamed CJM for playing "Johnny Ball" and never blamed Fulmer. The head coach controls it they said. Now that CPF is in the position, we blame the OC, not the head coach? When does CPF take accountability for UT football? He sure as heck took credit for the NC in '98.

I'm not asking for him to go but rather stand up like a man and take the hit. RS had the stones to do it. And people like donsarge can spout off on message board, call-in show or in the comfort of 108,000 other fans where their true identity will never be known. I doubt you could say these things to the man's face. RS is more of a VOL than most of us could ever wish to be.

 

[almostavol]

FINALLY!!!

I have been asking for several years what qualifications a former third string quarterback has for being the offensive coordinator in a major football program. No one has bothered to answer, until now. Thanks donsargegolf!

 

[wilburnVol]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 4, 2005 9:21 PM
He could not play( 3 int's against BC, loss at home to MSU in 86), he could not coach, and SURELY could not be OC(99-05). Thank goodness for intervention. May RS  name NEVER pass this website or lips again!

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I remember he blamed it on the maintenance guy opening the stadium doors, letting in the cold wind only when we had the ball. :crazy:

Didn't he lateral to a BC player in that game and he never saw the QB spot again? :focus:

 

[wilburnVol]

Originally posted by utvolpj@Nov 4, 2005 9:28 PM
So who's next for CPF when this experiment doesn't work?  Who else falls on the sword?

When CPF was OC, everyone blamed CJM for playing "Johnny Ball" and never blamed Fulmer.  The head coach controls it they said.  Now that CPF is in the position, we blame the OC, not the head coach?  When does CPF take accountability for UT football?  He sure as heck took credit for the NC in '98.

I'm not asking for him to go but rather stand up like a man and take the hit.  RS had the stones to do it.  And people like donsarge can spout off on message board, call-in show or in the comfort of 108,000 other fans where their true identity will never be known.  I doubt you could say these things to the man's face.  RS is more of a VOL than most of us could ever wish to be.

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I would have absolutely no problem telling Sanders right to his face that he was unqualified from the get-go. No qualms, couldn't stand the guy, why would I care what he thought?

 

[utvolpj]

Originally posted by almostavol@Nov 4, 2005 7:01 PM
FINALLY!!!

I have been asking for several years what qualifications a former third string quarterback has for being the offensive coordinator in a major football program. No one has bothered to answer, until now. Thanks donsargegolf!

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And, while we're asking, what makes you an expert on offensive play-calling? What qualifications do you possess to critique a man working at the D-1 level? It's amazing how all these Al Bundy wannabe's are now experts. He was calling plays on a level very few can ever reach and we know better? If the offense executes this season, we have no discussion. Dropped passes/fumbles prevented us from winning, not the gameplans. Even I, of HS gridiron glory, could see that.

 

[wilburnVol]

Originally posted by almostavol@Nov 4, 2005 9:31 PM
FINALLY!!!

I have been asking for several years what qualifications a former third string quarterback has for being the offensive coordinator in a major football program.

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He had none, zip, zero, right place, right time, we catch FL State without a QB and Goodrich gets us 7.

Oh, how Fate saw our face! :cry: :cry: :cry:

 

[utvolpj]

Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 4, 2005 7:09 PM
He had none, zip, zero, right place, right time, we catch FL State without a QB and Goodrich gets us 7.

Oh, how Fate saw our face!  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

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Check out the difference in yards that game. A back-up QB didn't make that much difference. And you're complaining about the D scoring??

 

[holdemvol]

Originally posted by almostavol@Nov 4, 2005 7:01 PM
FINALLY!!!

I have been asking for several years what qualifications a former third string quarterback has for being the offensive coordinator in a major football program. No one has bothered to answer, until now. Thanks donsargegolf!

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Charlie Weis never even played college football. I am not saying Sanders was qualified but playing ability does not directly translate into coaching ability.

 

[utvolpj]

Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 4, 2005 7:07 PM
I would have absolutely no problem telling Sanders right to his face that he was unqualified from the get-go. No qualms, couldn't stand the guy, why would I care what he thought?

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Did you know him personally? Most everyone I know who played for him liked him as a person.

Also, please list your football credentials so I can better appreciate your "insights".

 

[JasonCajun]

Originally posted by utvolpj@Nov 4, 2005 7:08 PM
And, while we're asking, what makes you an expert on offensive play-calling? What qualifications do you possess to critique a man working at the D-1 level?  It's amazing how all these Al Bundy wannabe's are now experts.  He was calling plays on a level very few can ever reach and we know better?  If the offense executes this season, we have no discussion.  Dropped passes/fumbles prevented us from winning, not the gameplans.  Even I, of HS gridiron glory, could see that.

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Since when do you have to be an ex-coach or player to know that the offense sucks. I don't have to be an auto mechanic or race car driver to tell you a car sucks, or a team sucks. The proof is in the results. This offense has been on a steady decline since RS took over. It is not just a "this year" anomaly. As far as execution, the WR and OL coaches need to go as well and there has to be a drastic change in the focus toward discipline there.

 

[utvolpj]

Originally posted by JasonCajun@Nov 4, 2005 7:16 PM
Since when do you have to be an ex-coach or player to know that the offense sucks. I don't have to be an auto mechanic or race car driver to tell you a car sucks, or a team sucks. The proof is in the results.  This offense has been on a steady decline since RS took over. It is not just a "this year" anomaly. As far as execution, the WR and OL coaches need to go as well and there has to be a drastic change in the focus toward discipline there.

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The execution sucked, not necessarily the play-calling. The gameplan against bammer was a good one and would have won if executed.

As for discipline, whose shoulders does that fall on? The assistant making $164k a year or the HC raking in $2 million? At least we know now who takes the blame.

 

[wncvolfan]

Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 4, 2005 2:45 PM
I love how people like to judge intelligence of others on this board with spelling errors. As for your little judgment on those who can't spell and their 'savage' behavior of Sanders, I'd point out that it is "improve THEIR confidence" not THERE.

So until you can come up with a better way to rebut others than spelling issues, since you too have that problem, I'd stick to using the spell-check and finding an I LOVE RANDY SANDERS website to post to.

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Also "if you win your lucky and if you lose, your an idiot."
Shouldn't it be "If you win, YOU'RE lucky and if you lose YOU'RE an idiot."? You're = contraction of you are, your = possessive pronoun.

Picky bast--d, ain't I?

 

[donsargegolf]

Originally posted by utvolpj@Nov 4, 2005 6:58 PM
So who's next for CPF when this experiment doesn't work?  Who else falls on the sword?

When CPF was OC, everyone blamed CJM for playing "Johnny Ball" and never blamed Fulmer.  The head coach controls it they said.  Now that CPF is in the position, we blame the OC, not the head coach?  When does CPF take accountability for UT football?  He sure as heck took credit for the NC in '98.

I'm not asking for him to go but rather stand up like a man and take the hit.  RS had the stones to do it.  And people like donsarge can spout off on message board, call-in show or in the comfort of 108,000 other fans where their true identity will never be known.  I doubt you could say these things to the man's face.  RS is more of a VOL than most of us could ever wish to be.

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I been preaching for six years and seven games. Thank God we are rid of him!!!

 

[donsargegolf]

Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 4, 2005 7:05 PM
I remember he blamed it on the maintenance guy opening the stadium doors, letting in the cold wind only when we had the ball.  :crazy:

Didn't he lateral to a BC player in that game and he never saw the QB spot again?  :focus:

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He saw it against MSU and Don Smith. We were defending SEC champions and trailed late in the fourth. He overthrew a wide open Terrence Cleveland in the back of the end zone. ( literally threw it thru the uprights,pitiful)

 

[utvolpj]

Too bad the true reason is still out there. As Pennington's said in his blog, UT has the Richard Kimball syndrome. Now who's the one-armed man?

 

[holdemvol]

Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 4, 2005 7:23 PM
He saw it against MSU and Don Smith. We were defending SEC champions and trailed late in the fourth. He overthrew a wide open Terrence Cleveland in the back of the end zone.   ( literally threw it thru the uprights,pitiful)

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How about giving us some stories from when YOU played QB for UT. The guy is gone, give him a break.

 

[utvolpj]

Originally posted by JasonCajun@Nov 4, 2005 7:16 PM
. I don't have to be an auto mechanic or race car driver to tell you a car sucks, or a team sucks. The proof is in the results.

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No, but you must know something about care to diagnose and fix the problem. What people are saying here is akin to your car breaking down and you buy a new set of tires for it. Who knows, maybe the car needed new tires, but it doesn't fix your broken-down car.

 

[almostavol]

I did some research.........utvolpj is Randy Sanders first cousin. I wonder if he (utvolpj) is also from Morristown.