Let's look at Jon Gruden

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For his career he has a .540 win percentage with 95 wins and 81 losses.

Gruden is from the Mike Holmgren coaching tree which means a west coast offense and most likely from his time working with Monte Kiffen he would run a tampa-2 defense

cons-
Never truly developed a quarterback as a head coach other than 2 sucessful years with rich gannon.

could the west coast work in the SEC?

can Gruden control a lockeroom full of 18-20 year olds? he had several public disagreements with star players.

can he evaluate talent? his drafts at tama bay were questionable at best.

who leaves and who stays if we change coaches?

defense got worse as his tenure went on at tampa

Pros-
NFL resume has a Championship

would be a splash hire. espn would love it

would have instant credability with recruits. they see him every monday night

could assemble a great staff. would his brother come? who would run the defense and who would be the position coaches

has swag for real tho.

was once a vol

oh and i heard he married a tennessee cheerleader and has some land in knoxville
 
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Brass_Vols said:
For his career he has a .540 win percentage with 95 wins and 81 losses.

Gruden is from the Mike Holmgren coaching tree which means a west coast offense and most likely from his time working with Monte Kiffen he would run a tampa-2 defense

cons-
Never truly developed a quarterback as a head coach other than 2 sucessful years with rich gannon.

could the west coast work in the SEC?

can Gruden control a lockeroom full of 18-20 year olds? he had several public disagreements with star players.

can he evaluate talent? his drafts at tama bay were questionable at best.

who leaves and who stays if we change coaches?

defense got worse as his tenure went on at tampa

Pros-
NFL resume has a Championship

would be a splash hire. espn would love it

would have instant credability with recruits. they see him every monday night

could assemble a great staff. would his brother come? who would run the defense and who would be the position coaches

has swag for real tho.

was once a vol

oh and i heard he married a tennessee cheerleader and has some land in knoxville
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If chucky would come OH NICK would have to take the back seat the SEC would have a new dude riding shotgun.:good!:
 
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Look what happened to the Raiders and the Bucs after he left. His so-so record and drafts were probably more a reflection of who was running those organizations if you ask me.
IMO, Gruden would be an incredible hire and is one of the very few who could turn the ship around in a year or two.
I would hire him tomorrow, but if he wouldn't take the job, I'd just assume give Dooley another year than rebuild with a lateral hire.
 
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Might want to add:

His teams won NFL Division Titles in 2000 (Oakland), 2001 (Oakland), 2002 (Tampa), 2005 (Tampa), and 2007 (Tampa)
 
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There is no doubt this would be a huge hire from the motivation standpoint. That is an area the current team seems to lack. Gruden should be able to get the team fired up.

With that being said, there is also risk. Gruden has never been a college head coach.
 
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what what said:
There is no doubt this would be a huge hire from the motivation standpoint. That is an area the current team seems to lack. Gruden should be able to get the team fired up.

With that being said, there is also risk. Gruden has never been a college head coach.
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The last guy we hired with college HC experience sucks.
 
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my biggest question about CJG is if he has the drive that it would take to do the hard work and put in the long hours.

his ring and persona would no doubt be recruiting advantages, but this does not mean that 5* recruits are going to come to knoxville on their own dime and beg to play.

if CJG is a bust, he has a fortune to fall back on or he can go back to the booth. a younger, hungrier coach who has to stay in coaching does not have that fallback and might be a lot harder worker.
 
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Head Coaches in the NFL hardly ever scout talent or draft. Bruce Allen drafted for chuckie, polian drafted for dungy. Bruce Allen sucked it up. Don't blame chucky for the ****ty drafting.
 
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tm3 said:
my biggest question about CJG is if he has the drive that it would take to do the hard work and put in the long hours.

his ring and persona would no doubt be recruiting advantages, but this does not mean that 5* recruits are going to come to knoxville on their own dime and beg to play.

if CJG is a bust, he has a fortune to fall back on or he can go back to the booth. a younger, hungrier coach who has to stay in coaching does not have that fallback and might be a lot harder worker.
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What?!?! Look up some info on the guy.

From Slate.com:
Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden is known as "Jon 3:11," because that's the time he wakes up in the morning. He used to be considerably more mellow: When Gruden was in Oakland, he'd start his mornings at 3:17. In 2003, he co-wrote a book titled Do You Love Football?!: Winning With Heart, Passion, and Not Much Sleep. It's unclear what Gruden loves more—football or staying awake.


From ESPN.com:

Training in the Napa Valley, the Raiders feel the heat. Jon Gruden, a rising coaching star at the age of 36, might need a trip to the playoffs to keep his job. His intense sideline demeanor and tireless work ethic have developed a hard-working, disciplined team. But the Raiders' commitment to excellence isn't to 8-8.
 
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Just to add this, remember that ESPN and the NFL have a $1.8 BILLION deal per year for Monday Night Football, with Jon Gruden as the headlining act in the booth.

Yes, contracts are nothing more than a legal method of beginning, guiding, and terminating a business agreement, however ESPN did not put that stipulation in the contract for the hell of it. They were making sure that they were going to keep Gruden in the booth for the new contract's length. You can bet that any buyout would blow away what a coaching buyout would incur.

Gruden is pulling in $4.3 million per year doing MNF.He works only during the season. He works only a couple of days week. His wife loves Tamapa and he gets to spend mist of his time in that area.Think that he is goin to give that up to work fulltime for the same kind of money? It would take over $8-$10 million per year to get him to leave, plus paying off a huge buyout that could approach $15-$20 million.
 
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Tux said:
Just to add this, remember that ESPN and the NFL have a $1.8 BILLION deal per year for Monday Night Football, with Jon Gruden as the headlining act in the booth.

Yes, contracts are nothing more than a legal method of beginning, guiding, and terminating a business agreement, however ESPN did not put that stipulation in the contract for the hell of it. They were making sure that they were going to keep Gruden in the booth for the new contract's length. You can bet that any buyout would blow away what a coaching buyout would incur.

Gruden is pulling in $4.3 million per year doing MNF.He works only during the season. He works only a couple of days week. His wife loves Tamapa and he gets to spend mist of his time in that area.Think that he is goin to give that up to work fulltime for the same kind of money? It would take over $8-$10 million per year to get him to leave, plus paying off a huge buyout that could approach $15-$20 million.
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How many threads are you going to regurgitate this?

The second paragraph you are pulling:

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Tux said:
Just to add this, remember that ESPN and the NFL have a $1.8 BILLION deal per year for Monday Night Football, with Jon Gruden as the headlining act in the booth.

Yes, contracts are nothing more than a legal method of beginning, guiding, and terminating a business agreement, however ESPN did not put that stipulation in the contract for the hell of it. They were making sure that they were going to keep Gruden in the booth for the new contract's length. You can bet that any buyout would blow away what a coaching buyout would incur.

Gruden is pulling in $4.3 million per year doing MNF.He works only during the season. He works only a couple of days week. His wife loves Tamapa and he gets to spend mist of his time in that area.Think that he is goin to give that up to work fulltime for the same kind of money? It would take over $8-$10 million per year to get him to leave, plus paying off a huge buyout that could approach $15-$20 million.
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You an ESPN insider? Last time I checked neither ESPN nor Gruden have released the contract terms. Pure speculation.
 
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Burger said:
Head Coaches in the NFL hardly ever scout talent or draft. Bruce Allen drafted for chuckie, polian drafted for dungy. Bruce Allen sucked it up. Don't blame chucky for the ****ty drafting.
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Tampa Bay traded two first round and two second round picks to get Gruden (plus $8million), which explains the talent dropoff after the SB.
 
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Tux said:
Just to add this, remember that ESPN and the NFL have a $1.8 BILLION deal per year for Monday Night Football, with Jon Gruden as the headlining act in the booth.

Yes, contracts are nothing more than a legal method of beginning, guiding, and terminating a business agreement, however ESPN did not put that stipulation in the contract for the @#!*% of it. They were making sure that they were going to keep Gruden in the booth for the new contract's length. You can bet that any buyout would blow away what a coaching buyout would incur.

Gruden is pulling in $4.3 million per year doing MNF.He works only during the season. He works only a couple of days week. His wife loves Tamapa and he gets to spend mist of his time in that area.Think that he is goin to give that up to work fulltime for the same kind of money? It would take over $8-$10 million per year to get him to leave, plus paying off a huge buyout that could approach $15-$20 million.
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I can't believe Gruden would sign a contract with ESPN and MNF, that didn't give him an out to coach again.
I can't believe his agent would let him, either.

Until I see proof otherwise, I would think he could be available to coach again, with no problem. Just look at Urban.

:peace2:
 
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Brass_Vols said:
For his career he has a .540 win percentage with 95 wins and 81 losses.

Gruden is from the Mike Holmgren coaching tree which means a west coast offense and most likely from his time working with Monte Kiffen he would run a tampa-2 defense

cons-
Never truly developed a quarterback as a head coach other than 2 sucessful years with rich gannon.

could the west coast work in the SEC?

can Gruden control a lockeroom full of 18-20 year olds? he had several public disagreements with star players.

can he evaluate talent? his drafts at tama bay were questionable at best.

who leaves and who stays if we change coaches?

defense got worse as his tenure went on at tampa

Pros-
NFL resume has a Championship

would be a splash hire. espn would love it

would have instant credability with recruits. they see him every monday night

could assemble a great staff. would his brother come? who would run the defense and who would be the position coaches

has swag for real tho.

was once a vol

oh and i heard he married a tennessee cheerleader and has some land in knoxville
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I could see him being a better college coach than pro. If Nick Saban could scare these kids and earn respect I guarantee Gruden could. He wouldnt necessarily have to develope a QB, thats what his QB Coach and OC would do. A coach is only as good, or bad as his staff. I would be certain he could put together a great staff. And no doubt he would take our recruiting to the next level. I mean you see and hear him as an announcer and a homerun hire that everyone knows. He would do great in a recruits living room trying to win over their moms. I really see no angle that would suggest that he wouldnt be a championship type coach and get us back to stardom and possibly beyond anywhere UT has ever been. Low, Herbstreit and today Clay Travis all say he absolutely has interest and UT would be the only college job he would consider. I hope like hell this happens, would excite the fanbase again and have Neyland back to where there was no empty seats and people standing and where you were damn near deaf when you left. Its exactly what us as fans need. I remember when Alabama week was the week I most looked foward to and it seemed like the longest week of the football season. The excitement was unbelievable and the past few yrs, including this one just hasnt been the same. I really want that back and truely believe Gruden is the man. Plus he is an old school type coach and there wont be much of the spread crap being ran. I definitely will never pull against UT, but if a few more losses means it could happen then those losses wont hurt nearly as bad.
 
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Can you imagine, Jon Gruden wants to come to your house on Monday nights and watch some Monday Night football with you and your family. Recruits would love that.
 
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phowell23 said:
Can you imagine, Jon Gruden wants to come to your house on Monday nights and watch some Monday Night football with you and your family. Recruits would love that.
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Hell if I was a basketball recruit I would still come if he did that to recruit me. :)
 
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