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[UT_VOLS13]

This is a ridiculous statement and straight up fear porn .

Well, a LOT of people think like this.

 

[evillawyer]

That's an absurd assumption by someone bad at math

US population is about 329 million. If 70% get infected (target for herd immunity), you're looking at 230 million infections. If 1% of those die, 2.3 million deaths.

 

[utvolpj]

US population is about 329 million. If 70% get infected (target for herd immunity), you're looking at 230 million infections. If 1% of those die, 2.3 million deaths.

Your numbers are made up

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

Your numbers are made up

Nah

 

[ButchPlz]

Nah

An excellent rebuttal.

Doofus post.

 

[LouderVol]

immunization is the best course of action. Achieving herd immunity naturally would decimate the world.

you do know that even with Covid the world's population, and the US for that matter, is still GROWING.

The US alone has 4 million births a YEAR.

This is more fear pushing nonsense based on pure nonsense.

Covid has AT worst decreased our population GROWTH by 5% of whatever it normally is. That's not a negative 5% that's 5% less than what the normal growth rate is.

That's not decimating, it's a statistical anomaly we wont notice in a decade. I swear you corona bros are so uneducated it's amazing you even open your mouths.

 

[allvol123]

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[LouderVol]

Baseless conjecture.

It's not even conjecture. Conjecture implies he started with some kernel of knowledge and expanded upon it. He just straight up made up a position.

 

[0nelilreb]

Well, a LOT of people think like this.

 

[allvol123]

Baseless conjecture.

It is worse. It is straight up ignorant.

 

[Mick]

Your numbers are made up

What are the numbers?

 

[kiddiedoc]

immunization is the best course of action. Achieving herd immunity naturally would decimate the world.

Like it did in Sweden, New York, and Italy?

 

[rjd970]

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Another good one of his is “think about how dumb the average person is, then realize half the population is dumber than that.”

 

[rjd970]

US population is about 329 million. If 70% get infected (target for herd immunity), you're looking at 230 million infections. If 1% of those die, 2.3 million deaths.

This is straight up stupid. Not even close to reality.

 

[evillawyer]

Your numbers are made up

How are my numbers made up? The population is accurate (roughly 330 million). Most things I've seen say herd immunity is obtained when there's about 70% infection rate (some highly contagious diseases like measles require a higher threshold in the 90s). Until you have herd immunity, spread will still happen (assuming we go on living as freedumb loving Americans). And then the 1% death rate was provided by the person I was responding to. Put those numbers together you get 2.3 million deaths before herd immunity is obtained.

 

[Mick]

Like it did in Sweden, New York, and Italy?

I hope you're right but I'm waiting on the verdict about reinfection.

 

[37L1]

How are my numbers made up? The population is accurate (roughly 330 million). Most things I've seen say herd immunity is obtained when there's about 70% infection rate (some highly contagious diseases like measles require a higher threshold in the 90s). Until you have herd immunity, spread will still happen (assuming we go on living as freedumb loving Americans). And then the 1% death rate was provided by the person I was responding to. Put those numbers together you get 2.3 million deaths before herd immunity is obtained.

What do the scientists say? Do they agree that without a vaccine, 2.3 million Americans are going to die?

 

[evillawyer]

What do the scientists say? Do they agree that without a vaccine, 2.3 million Americans are going to die?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/health/coronavirus-herd-immunity-simulation-vaccine/

 

[37L1]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/health/coronavirus-herd-immunity-simulation-vaccine/

Sorry don't and won't subscribe.

 

[evillawyer]

Sorry don't and won't subscribe.

Fauci warns of 'enormous' death toll if US relies on herd immunity

 

[37L1]

Fauci warns of 'enormous' death toll if US relies on herd immunity

Thanks!

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

No it hasn't. I don't think you understand the concept of immunity.

You shouldn’t pretend like you do either

 

[OHvol40]

This is a ridiculous statement and straight up fear porn .

So if he said “cost millions of lives” instead of “decimate the world” is it ridiculous? I hope not, because it’s true.

 

[utvolpj]

How are my numbers made up? The population is accurate (roughly 330 million). Most things I've seen say herd immunity is obtained when there's about 70% infection rate (some highly contagious diseases like measles require a higher threshold in the 90s). Until you have herd immunity, spread will still happen (assuming we go on living as freedumb loving Americans). And then the 1% death rate was provided by the person I was responding to. Put those numbers together you get 2.3 million deaths before herd immunity is obtained.

Because they don't add up. If you look at the places reaching herd immunity then you either need a much lower % or the death rate is significantly lower. You can't use both numbers simultaneously

 

[evillawyer]

Like it did in Sweden, New York, and Italy?

So if you believe herd immunity has been obtained in nyc, do you believe there will be no second wave in NYC this fall? Or, as a weaker proposition, that it will only occur in certain neighborhoods (Corona in queens has an over 50% antibody positivity rate, Tribeca and some of the whiter enclaves are in the low teens)? And how do you explain Corona having a 50% antibody rate if herd immunity is obtained at a lower threshold? (Serious question, not asking in my typical smartass way)