Last night’s sticker fiasco

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So, according to John Wilkerson and the announcers last night, all bats are inspected pre-game and given a sticker. If the sticker comes off, even if the bat is legal, the bat is deemed illegal.

The catcher asked the umpire to check the bat. I think if the umpires checked it and it was legal in every way but that it’s sticker fell off, then it’s still legal.

Wilkerson said the Vandy fans were calling the UT players “cheaters” the rest of the night.

Why is the sole mechanism used to confirm bats a sticker? Why not a mark or something? And how did Corbin know to check that specific bat and no other bats? I am just shocked at the amateur level at which the SEC is operating this system.

Sweep the Candy Boys.
 
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Glad this got its own thread because I think there are some serious things about this to discuss. Don't get me wrong, I'm all Vol all the time, but let's try to look at this without our orange glasses on.

Honestly, if it were the opponent, would you really believe the other head coach would not be aware of the stickers? How would you view it if the other coach came storming out demanding they give him the suspect bat back? What about admitting they found several other bats without the stickers?

I want us to win, win big, win always, and I'm loving this team and this coach. I don't want it all torn down by scandals and outside forces using these accusations, true or not, against us.

Lastly, if the bat was tested, passed and the sticker came off, that should be made public to remove any doubt. And they need a more failsafe process than relying on a darn sticker applied by the host team.
 
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imw8n4u said:
Glad this got its own thread because I think there are some serious things about this to discuss. Don't get me wrong, I'm all Vol all the time, but let's try to look at this without our orange glasses on.

Honestly, if it were the opponent, would you really believe the other head coach would not be aware of the stickers? How would you view it if the other coach came storming out demanding they give him the suspect bat back? What about admitting they found several other bats without the stickers?

I want us to win, win big, win always, and I'm loving this team and this coach. I don't want it all torn down by scandals and outside forces using these accusations, true or not, against us.

Lastly, if the bat was tested, passed and the sticker came off, that should be made public to remove any doubt. And they need a more failsafe process than relying on a darn sticker applied by the host team.
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They already said the sticker was on the bat in question but came off during batting practice. Beck just didn’t think anything of it whenever it happened. If people want to call them cheaters then so be it. We all know they aren’t cheaters. If anybody is cheating it’s Vanderbilt with their scholarship advantage they’ve had for years due to being a private school. Nobody cares about Tennessee sports outside of Tennessee fans anyways so it’s always been us against the world.
 
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Jake Tate said:
So, according to John Ward and the announcers last night, all bats are inspected pre-game and given a sticker. If the sticker comes off, even if the bat is legal, the bat is deemed illegal.

The catcher asked the umpire to check the bat. I think if the umpires checked it and it was legal in every way but that it’s sticker fell off, then it’s still legal.

Ward said the Vandy fans were calling the UT players “cheaters” the rest of the night.

Why is the sole mechanism used to confirm bats a sticker? Why not a mark or something? And how did Corbin know to check that specific bat and no other bats? I am just shocked at the amateur level at which the SEC is operating this system.

Sweep the Candy Boys.
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The big news here is John Ward weighing in on the subject.
 
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VolPack22 said:
They already said the sticker was on the bat in question but came off during batting practice. Beck just didn’t think anything of it whenever it happened. If people want to call them cheaters then so be it. We all know they aren’t cheaters. If anybody is cheating it’s Vanderbilt with their scholarship advantage they’ve had for years due to being a private school. Nobody cares about Tennessee sports outside of Tennessee fans anyways so it’s always been us against the world.
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No not the private school status, but the Peabody connection. That connection allows very different rules to allow participation in sports than anyone else in the SEC (maybe the nation).
 
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The rules are screwed up when they impact the score of the game. There should be a system where if the bat was legal, there's a warning or something along those lines. I would think stickers could easily come off during rainy games and other conditions. What if that were a 3 run HR? Does the SEC really want to impact a game to that extent over the stickiness of a sticker? Seems insane to me
 
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The TV guys later stated that several other bats had "lost their stickers. Not going to call out anyone, BUT, after the fact, finding several that had had stickers "fall off". (velley strange) Now was it due to the cold causing them to turn loose, poor glue? Maybe, but for the catcher to say "check the bat" came at a very opportune time. Would hate to think,,, well you know. All is well till you get caught. Wonder if we have checked the glue? (what is this sticker crap anyway? Have they no other way of keeping up with bats or bats in use during a game? ( I thought it was funny the way the ump kept backing up and hiding/holding the bat behind him while "discussing" the situation with our couch.)
 
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Jake Tate said:
So, according to John Wilkerson and the announcers last night, all bats are inspected pre-game and given a sticker. If the sticker comes off, even if the bat is legal, the bat is deemed illegal.

The catcher asked the umpire to check the bat. I think if the umpires checked it and it was legal in every way but that it’s sticker fell off, then it’s still legal.

Wilkerson said the Vandy fans were calling the UT players “cheaters” the rest of the night.

Why is the sole mechanism used to confirm bats a sticker? Why not a mark or something? And how did Corbin know to check that specific bat and no other bats? I am just shocked at the amateur level at which the SEC is operating this system.

Sweep the Candy Boys.
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Fuel. Not that we need it.. but, fuel.
 
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VolPack22 said:
They already said the sticker was on the bat in question but came off during batting practice. Beck just didn’t think anything of it whenever it happened. If people want to call them cheaters then so be it. We all know they aren’t cheaters. If anybody is cheating it’s Vanderbilt with their scholarship advantage they’ve had for years due to being a private school. Nobody cares about Tennessee sports outside of Tennessee fans anyways so it’s always been us against the world.
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Who is "they"? Our guys? Again, I know it's hard to admit, but if it were flipped, and it was Vandy or UF or Arkansas, would you honestly just accept the story that the sticker came off? That they didn't know the sticker was a big deal?
I already lived through losing my favorite basketball coach over some silliness, I don't want to go through that again with TV.
 
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imw8n4u said:
Who is "they"? Our guys? Again, I know it's hard to admit, but if it were flipped, and it was Vandy or UF or Arkansas, would you honestly just accept the story that the sticker came off? That they didn't know the sticker was a big deal?
I already lived through losing my favorite basketball coach over some silliness, I don't want to go through that again with TV.
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You can believe whatever you want to believe but seeing that there was still a sticker from the Wednesday game and the bats were tested Thursday, I have no reason to believe they were using hot bats. As for Vanderbilt or any other team, they can do whatever they want to do. Our pitching is head and shoulders above anyone else so it really doesn’t matter what kind of bats they use. We have given up more than 3 runs in 4 games all season and that’s why we win.
 
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If they were wanting to cheat they would just take the sticker off a legal bat and put it on a loaded one anyway. It doesn't seem like the current system would stop the actual cheaters and for Vandy to know to look for them tells me that they know how to possibly get around using loaded bats and getting away with it.
 
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Jr_Vol# said:
If they were wanting to cheat they would just take the sticker off a legal bat and put it on a loaded one anyway. It doesn't seem like the current system would stop the actual cheaters and for Vandy to know to look for them tells me that they know how to possibly get around using loaded bats and getting away with it.
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From what I’ve read the stickers are made of destructible material and can’t be transferred.
 
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