Lady Vols Historic First?

[Lady_Vol]

Lady Vols lose 7 in a row for the 1st time ever. Will not be in NCAA tournament for 1st time ever?

I don’t know what it will take to get back to a winning relevant program, but it is very sad to see where we are. There is a generation of young women who’ve never seen a winning, dominant Lady Vols team.

South Carolina, Texas, LSU, Vandy, all seem to be making it work. Why can’t we?

 

[knoxvol52]

Lady Vols lose 7 in a row for the 1st time ever. Will not be in NCAA tournament for 1st time ever?

I don’t know what it will take to get back to a winning relevant program, but it is very sad to see where we are. There is a generation of young women who’ve never seen a winning, dominant Lady Vols team.

South Carolina, Texas, LSU, Vandy, all seem to be making it work. Why can’t we?

Yes they will, get a grip. They may not win a 1st round game but they will play in Tournament.

 

[Volfan2012]

Lady Vols lose 7 in a row for the 1st time ever. Will not be in NCAA tournament for 1st time ever?

I don’t know what it will take to get back to a winning relevant program, but it is very sad to see where we are. There is a generation of young women who’ve never seen a winning, dominant Lady Vols team.

South Carolina, Texas, LSU, Vandy, all seem to be making it work. Why can’t we?

Were fairly cheap when it comes to coaching. Sometimes you can hit a home run with the up and coming coach you can also strike out.

 

[macrovol]

Lady Vols will get in on strength of schedule. #1 in the country.

 

[WaywardVol]

Lady Vols lose 7 in a row for the 1st time ever. Will not be in NCAA tournament for 1st time ever?

I don’t know what it will take to get back to a winning relevant program, but it is very sad to see where we are. There is a generation of young women who’ve never seen a winning, dominant Lady Vols team.

South Carolina, Texas, LSU, Vandy, all seem to be making it work. Why can’t we?

Meanwhile, Danny White is gaslighting the fans on local radio. Danny thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. He had a proven, final four coach who wanted the job, but wanted to put his own mark on it. He thinks he’s will have a legacy as the one who restored LV basketball. He sat there this week and told us how much time it takes. In the age of NIL? No sir, it doesn’t. Plus, LV fans aren’t asking you to beat SC, UConn and LSU in the same year, and go to the final four. I’ve seen nothing but reasonable expectations from LV fans. This team has nose dived and is genuinely at risk iof not making the tourney. 16-13?? Really? First round tourney loss??

The only way they make the tourney is off Pat’s legacy. There’s nothing in their resume to justify it.

 

[mudcat1973]

Meanwhile, Danny White is gaslighting the fans on local radio. Danny thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. He had a proven, final four coach who wanted the job, but wanted to put his own mark on it. He thinks he’s will have a legacy as the one who restored LV basketball. He sat there this week and told us how much time it takes. In the age of NIL? No sir, it doesn’t. Plus, LV fans aren’t asking you to beat SC, UConn and LSU in the same year, and go to the final four. I’ve seen nothing but reasonable expectations from LV fans. This team has nose dived and is genuinely at risk iof not making the tourney. 16-13?? Really? First round tourney loss??

The only way they make the tourney is off Pat’s legacy. There’s nothing in their resume to justify it.

Just wondering who wanted the job
And been to final four

Not one those Thinks Danny White the best athletic director in the country bunch
Just be clear not about Danny

Just curious what coach you are talking about

 

[volfan102455]

Lady Vols will get in on strength of schedule. #1 in the country.

They lost most of those games - that is like saying that if they were 0-29 they would get in because they played a tough schedule. You have to actually win the games.

That said, there are a lot of at large teams selected. There are 9 other SEC teams that should now firmly be ahead of them in terms of making the tournament. The question is whether the SEC will receive the bulk of the at large invitations.

If they get in, it is because of the name on the jersey.

You also have to watch for upsets in the other conferences.

 

[Amb3096]

They lost most of those games - that is like saying that if they were 0-29 they would get in because they played a tough schedule. You have to actually win the games.

That said, there are a lot of at large teams selected. There are 9 other SEC teams that should now firmly be ahead of them in terms of making the tournament. The question is whether the SEC will receive the bulk of the at large invitations.

If they get in, it is because of the name on the jersey.

They won enough 5 Quad One wins is better than any of the bubble teams, and their two “bad” losses were to teams that also gave a few other tournament bound teams “bad losses”

I think it’s misleading though, because they were lucky as hell to get Kentucky and Alabama when they were each down a starter. That Kentucky game would have been a routine win for the Wildcats if they had Key available.

 

[volfan102455]

They won enough 5 Quad One wins is better than any of the bubble teams, and their two “bad” losses were to teams that also gave a few other tournament bound teams “bad losses”

I think it’s misleading though, because they were lucky as hell to get Kentucky and Alabama when they were each down a starter. That Kentucky game would have been a routine win for the Wildcats if they had Key available.

There are 11 ACC teams, 5 Big East teams, 11 Big 12 teams and 13 Big 10 teams, and 9 SEC teams with better records that should be considered. That is well over the 37 teams for consideration - 49 - less the auto bid = 44.

The name on the jersey will get them in and give them the benefit of the doubt. Most other teams that had lost 7 in a row and bottomed out would not even be considered.

 

[volfan102455]

I don't want to see the streak with the NCAA tourney in, but this team is not worthy of being in the tournament.

 

[Amb3096]

There are 11 ACC teams, 5 Big East teams, 11 Big 12 teams and 13 Big 10 teams, and 9 SEC teams with better records that should be considered. That is well over the 37 teams for consideration - 49 - less the auto bid = 44.

The name on the jersey will get them in and give them the benefit of the doubt. Most other teams that had lost 7 in a row and bottomed out would not even be considered.

Better records, but do they have better wins and who did they lose too? Not all wins and losses are equal.

Tennessee making the field speaks more to the lack of quality bubble teams vs. getting in because of their name. If anything, that already happened during Holly’s last season, because that team had no business making it to the tournament.

 

[cwbytruckers]

Its a shame we have so much talent but they honestly look like they don't know what playing for someone and playing as a team means. Lack of defensive help is mind boggling. When a player gets beat you never hardly see anyone step over to cut them off. The constant pounding of the ball and then dribbling into a double team and leaving your feet to try and make a OMG i screwed up pass. Taking the I'm gonna get mine while I'm on the court attitude to often. And some of these girls look like they are skating by on what makes them better than weaker competition and not putting in the work to become a top ten team. And that's on the coaching as well. She looked glossy eyed last night during most of that game.

 

[ncteacher88]

I don't want to see the streak with the NCAA tourney in, but this team is not worthy of being in the tournament.

The only way they make the tourney is off Pat’s legacy. There’s nothing in their resume to justify it.

They finished tied for sixth place in a league that’s going to get 11 teams in the tournament. If they do not make the tournament, Texas A&M and Georgia do not deserve to go as they both finished behind or tied with Tennessee and also lost in the first round of the tournament. Kentucky and Alabama both also finish behind or tied with Tennessee in the regular season, but helped their resumes with at least one tournament win.

I understand the gloom and doom, but the numbers do not justify the feeling that they will not make the tournament.

 

[zeppelin128]

I don’t know what it will take to get back to a winning relevant program, but it is very sad to see where we are.

Firing Kim Caldwell is a good start.

 

[volbound1700]

We really miss Pat Summit... It was kind of like Neyland with Football, most of our program was built on a single coach (granted this is the same with most programs).

 

[OrangeBeachVol]

Its a shame we have so much talent but they honestly look like they don't know what playing for someone and playing as a team means. Lack of defensive help is mind boggling. When a player gets beat you never hardly see anyone step over to cut them off. The constant pounding of the ball and then dribbling into a double team and leaving your feet to try and make a OMG i screwed up pass. Taking the I'm gonna get mine while I'm on the court attitude to often. And some of these girls look like they are skating by on what makes them better than weaker competition and not putting in the work to become a top ten team. And that's on the coaching as well. She looked glossy eyed last night during most of that game.

I agree, thought for awhile now that most of the transfers Kim brought in were recruited for their apparent athletic ability to play her system but they were not 'team' players. Maybe the staff believed the system would make them team players but IMO it was a failure in player evaluation.

It does not appear the previous teams HC did not do much if anything to keep them from transferring. Maybe there were reasons for that. Hope the staff has done a better job with the new incoming class.

 

[volfan102455]

Its a shame we have so much talent but they honestly look like they don't know what playing for someone and playing as a team means. Lack of defensive help is mind boggling. When a player gets beat you never hardly see anyone step over to cut them off. The constant pounding of the ball and then dribbling into a double team and leaving your feet to try and make a OMG i screwed up pass. Taking the I'm gonna get mine while I'm on the court attitude to often. And some of these girls look like they are skating by on what makes them better than weaker competition and not putting in the work to become a top ten team. And that's on the coaching as well. She looked glossy eyed last night during most of that game.

I'm not sure she is going to find many players who are D1 capable players that will fit the system. To compete against the best teams, you need the same level of talent - but that level of talent is not going to be comfortable with being just one of 10 that is swapped out constantly in the game.

I think when a team is winning it is easier to play along - but when the losses start coming there is really no one to lead because anyone who could do that is on the bench for half the game.

We can blame the players all we want to - but some of them don't fit this system and never will. And we have a head coach that will not alter her style to the ability of her players.

 

[zeppelin128]

I agree, thought for awhile now that most of the transfers Kim brought in were recruited for their apparent athletic ability to play her system but they were not 'team' players. Maybe the staff believed the system would make them team players but IMO it was a failure in player evaluation.

It does not appear the previous teams HC did not do much if anything to keep them from transferring. Maybe there were reasons for that. Hope the staff has done a better job with the new incoming class.

It is a failure of player evaluation, training, conditioning, philosophy, and system. Nothing will change as long as "The System" persists.

 

[glv98]

Taking the I'm gonna get mine while I'm on the court attitude to often

Maybe because "while I'm on the court" is such a short stay.

I believe playing in two minute bursts is at the heart of why this team is so disheartened and chaotic. It's just very hard for them to accomplish anything.

 

[rickyyrs]

Lady Vols will get in on strength of schedule. #1 in the country.

You probaly right. But there is something wrong with this team. Or should i say group of players, because they are not a team. That is on coaching. You think Barnes would put up with this crap. Even the Louisville coach said the Lady Vols do not run plays on offense. This style of play does not work. They give up way too many lay ups in the press. You put your 5 best players on the floor and sub one or two at a time.

 

[AllVols3]

Just wondering who wanted the job
And been to final four

Not one those Thinks Danny White the best athletic director in the country bunch
Just be clear not about Danny

Just curious what coach you are talking about

Dudes hit the bottle early

 

[YankeeVol]

Lady Vols lose 7 in a row for the 1st time ever. Will not be in NCAA tournament for 1st time ever?

I don’t know what it will take to get back to a winning relevant program, but it is very sad to see where we are. There is a generation of young women who’ve never seen a winning, dominant Lady Vols team.

South Carolina, Texas, LSU, Vandy, all seem to be making it work. Why can’t we?

There are an 8 seed on ESPN's Bracketology as of 1am this morning. They are getting in.

 

[Woodworker]

For those that say they are in. I don't think there is an exact formula that allows them in.
It comes down to guide lines but in the end it's the committee that says yay or nay.
And with the loosing streak and historic margin loss they may just say no.

 

[Rooster1]

Better records, but do they have better wins and who did they lose too? Not all wins and losses are equal.

Tennessee making the field speaks more to the lack of quality bubble teams vs. getting in because of their name. If anything, that already happened during Holly’s last season, because that team had no business making it to the tournament.

Honest question. Do you think this was the worse LV team in your memory? Or was it the team from Holly's last season that you mentioned. A strong case could be made this year's team deserves the crown imo.

 

[Amb3096]

Honest question. Do you think this was the worse LV team in your memory? Or was it the team from Holly's last season that you mentioned. A strong case could be made this year's team deserves the crown imo.

Holly's last team was the worst in my opinion. First of all, they were more talented. They had Evina Westbrook, Rennia Davis, Zaay Green, Mimi Collins and Kasi Kushkituah, plus a deep, talented bench. Second of all, unlike this year's team, they lost to a bunch of scrubs and other than an early season win against Texas, they beat absolutely no one of consequence. This year's team doesn't have many good wins either, but they also didn't have bad losses of that magnitude either.

I remember when they lost to MSST in the SECT, someone asked Evina if they should make the NCAAT, and she said yes and pointed at the game they'd just lost as a reason why, since they "only lost by 15 points" (Westbrook hit a 3 with time winding down for the final MOV).

Funny enough, both teams shared 3 things in common: a preseason top 10 ranking, a 6-game losing streak, and a home loss to Vandy. At least this Vandy team had the SEC COY, POY and FOY. That year's version was the one with the infamous "women's basketball highlight" viral clip.

Either way, both teams are bad, but that team was downright embarrassing. They played scared, as opposed to this team who just plays like they don't care (while counting their bills and thinking about which tacky designer goods to buy).