Kiffin throws Lincoln under the bus?

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TennesseeT

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On the home page there is any article in the Times Free Press about Daniel Lincoln keeping the faith. In it Kiffin refers to not knowing about the tweak of Lincolns quad muscle during pre-game warm-ups and says had he known about it he would have tried to run another play at the end of the game. It reads to me as if he's throwing Lincoln under the bus for not disclosing the "tweak" during warmups.

First off, Kiffin knew about the injury and has known for weeks that Lincoln wasn't 100%. He had a extra point blocked in the UGA game and has been kicking with a low trajectory for weeks and even people here have pointed it out.

Secondly, Kiffin was watching the game we all watched first hand. Lincoln didn't have the leg to make the 47 yarder and then kicks a 40+ right into the waist of a fat boy. Does he not ask Lincoln how he's feeling after that? Does he not question the ability or health of his already known to be injured kicker? No KIFFIN chooses to run the time off the clock and trotts out the kicker.

I'm fine with the call and the outcome but don't say had the kid told you something you would have done something different and basically place it on his shoulders. It's Kiffin job to know how the kicker is feeling and everyone in America knew it wasn't 100%. Don't throw the kid under the bus because everyone is questioning your playcalling at the end of the game!
 
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Pointing out the kid had a psychical issue actually takes some of the blame off of him. Lighten up Debbie Downer.
 
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Kiffin would never throw one of his players under the bus. Just look at JC, he has stood by his side while the whole stadium wanted his head. You are reading waaay to much into this.
 
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I didn't like the way that article was written at all. The quotes don't seem to match up with what the writer is hinting at

The head coach said he'd have called one more offensive play, though, had he been given a heads-up on Lincoln's health.

"But then again, you know, he kicks the one at the end of the first half, and it's a yard short," Kiffin said. "It's not like he was 10 yards short on it. So just judging off how he kicked that one, that's good (enough).
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But Kiffin said he didn't have any indication that Lincoln's leg had gotten worse while warming up before the game.
"He didn't say anything about it," Kiffin said. "That's normal with our players. They're so competitive that a lot of times when something happens, they don't want to say anything, because they're afraid they're going to be taken out."
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Dude lighten up. This writer is trying to fashion a story from nothingness and you've taken it hook line and....stinker.
 
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Well the one comment about doing something differently had you known about the kid's health just isn't right. He knew about the kids health, he knew he wasn't 100%, he knew he's been kicking low and without the power.

Don't say had you been told something by the kid you would have done something different. You got a entire staff of coaches to evaluate how the kid is performing.

And before he said he didn't run another play because of fear of a penalty or a turnover. I really think the guy needs to slow down and think before speaking. It seems sometimes as if he's high and just blurting out the first thing that come to mind. I'm not bashing the guy, I just really don't think the comment was appropriate. He's the HFC and it all falls on him.
 
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CLK said on Vol Calls last night that Lincoln had tweaked the injury in warmups but didn't tell anybody. He also said he admired Lincoln's desire to play through the injury. I can't see Kiffin throwing anybody under the bus.
 
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I really don't think Kiffin would throw one of his players under the bus. He hasn't done so yet and seems to be a I got every players back kind of coach. I think the writer tried to write it like such, but we should know better.
 
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While watching the game, I notice a conversation between Lincoln and Coach Eddie Gran on the side line, just before that kick. I also beleive its grands area of responsibility to know these things and make the decision, while keeping kiffin better informed......
 
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TennesseeT said:
Well the one comment about doing something differently had you known about the kid's health just isn't right. He knew about the kids health, he knew he wasn't 100%, he knew he's been kicking low and without the power.
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where did he say that? All I see is written by the author of the story. Plus, CLK is answering a direct question (that is also left out of the story)
 
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On his show he also commented that it wasn't all on Lincoln. That yes, he has to get the ball higher and kick it quicker but they didn't do a very good job of stopping penetration. This was very similar to his Crompton comments earlier in the year. Yes, Crompton has to do better, but so do I calling plays and so do the receivers.

During the 30 seconds or so they ran off the clock Lincoln and Gran were having a pretty intense conversation. I wonder what exactly was said?
 
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TennesseeT said:
Well the one comment about doing something differently had you known about the kid's health just isn't right. He knew about the kids health, he knew he wasn't 100%, he knew he's been kicking low and without the power.

Don't say had you been told something by the kid you would have done something different. You got a entire staff of coaches to evaluate how the kid is performing.

And before he said he didn't run another play because of fear of a penalty or a turnover. I really think the guy needs to slow down and think before speaking. It seems sometimes as if he's high and just blurting out the first thing that come to mind. I'm not bashing the guy, I just really don't think the comment was appropriate. He's the HFC and it all falls on him.
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Lincoln had been kicking within that range all week with consistency. He also had been making his kicks within that range during warmups. We were 5 yards within the predetermined range when the decision to kick was made. People need to quit trying to manufacture controversy.
 
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I'm sorry but the kid misses the kick, then admits that he tweaked his already injured leg during warmups, then the coach says hey if the kid had told me about it I would have done something different. That means it's the kids fault for not telling.
 
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TennesseeT said:
I'm sorry but the kid misses the kick, then admits that he tweaked his already injured leg during warmups, then the coach says hey if the kid had told me about it I would have done something different. That means it's the kids fault for not telling.
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Didn't realize he didn't inform Kiffin, never mind. Burn Lincoln burn.
 
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TennesseeT said:
Well the one comment about doing something differently had you known about the kid's health just isn't right. He knew about the kids health, he knew he wasn't 100%, he knew he's been kicking low and without the power.

Don't say had you been told something by the kid you would have done something different. You got a entire staff of coaches to evaluate how the kid is performing.

And before he said he didn't run another play because of fear of a penalty or a turnover. I really think the guy needs to slow down and think before speaking. It seems sometimes as if he's high and just blurting out the first thing that come to mind. I'm not bashing the guy, I just really don't think the comment was appropriate. He's the HFC and it all falls on him.
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Yes you are. You cant say you're not doing something when you clearly are and then expect for everyone to believe that you're not just because you say so. And please stop telling the coaching staff what they should do. And I think you're high and blurting out the first thing that comes to mind.(did that feel a little insulting?)
 
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TennesseeT said:
I'm sorry but the kid misses the kick, then admits that he tweaked his already injured leg during warmups, then the coach says hey if the kid had told me about it I would have done something different. That means it's the kids fault for not telling.
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you have yet to provide a quote from Kiffin saying had he known he would have run another play. Should be easy right?
 
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If I was the coach I would mention the kid was injured every chance I had in an interview or article. This way more people would know the player had a reason for his poor play. Maybe more people would then lighten up on the kid then. I don't see this throwing him under the bus.
 
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TennesseeT said:
I'm sorry but the kid misses the kick, then admits that he tweaked his already injured leg during warmups, then the coach says hey if the kid had told me about it I would have done something different. That means it's the kids fault for not telling.
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You're going to have to show me where exactly Kiffin is QUOTED having said that.
 
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You win and lose as a team and a HFC should know how to answer questions without directing blame towards any one individual when answering questions. Kiffin is usually pretty good about this but failed to do so here IMO.

I'm not sure exactly what was said but the author says it was so I'm going to go with it. Kiffin should have never said that he would do something different if a player had kept him informed. It's Kiffins job to stay informed.
 
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