Kiffin delivers a serious blow to Meyer!

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Volfan76

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The sentiment and the consensus theme around the media is that while the Vols lost on the scoreboard, they won "the game". I have been thinking about the true implications of this and I believe it may be the beginning of the end for Meyer. Several things that Tn did this weekend: Monte provided a blueprint for other teams to attach Florida's offense. I think every person in the nation expected Florida to come in and put 50 points on Tn and couldn't. Tn is delivering a serious blow to Fl in recruiting and yesterday’s performance certainly didn't hurt any. Most importantly Urban and the gators weren't able to accomplish something that they extremely motivated to do since he became coach. I think it was a serious psychological blow to him and the program and I have my doubts about how he will be able to bounce back from a blow that has hit him on so many fronts. He tried to take the high road and shake hands with the Tennessee players but as soon as he got back in the locker room, he was talking about players having the flu and how good of a sec defense they faced. That tells me that he is second guessing himself and making excuses. One more thing to add....tebow is gone after this year and those are some big shoes to fill! Idk maybe i'm over analyzing this, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the program to start unraveling and possibly even see meyer move on to nd.
 
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Volfan76 said:
The sentiment and the consensus theme around the media is that while the Vols lost on the scoreboard, they won "the game". I have been thinking about the true implications of this and I believe it may be the beginning of the end for Meyer. Several things that Tn did this weekend: Monte provided a blueprint for other teams to attach Florida's offense. I think every person in the nation expected Florida to come in and put 50 points on Tn and couldn't. Tn is delivering a serious blow to Fl in recruiting and yesterday’s performance certainly didn't hurt any. Most importantly Urban and the gators weren't able to accomplish something that they extremely motivated to do since he became coach. I think it was a serious psychological blow to him and the program and I have my doubts about how he will be able to bounce back from a blow that has hit him on so many fronts. He tried to take the high road and shake hands with the Tennessee players but as soon as he got back in the locker room, he was talking about players having the flu and how good of a sec defense they faced. That tells me that he is second guessing himself and making excuses. One more thing to add....tebow is gone after this year and those are some big shoes to fill! Idk maybe i'm over analyzing this, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the program to start unraveling and possibly even see meyer move on to nd.
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I certainly think alot of Florida fans are gonna be surprised at how big a drop of there is after Tebow leaves. I dont know if any of them realize just how PERFECT a fit Tebow is for CUM's offense.

Sure, they have Brantley, but if Brantley played yesterday, Florida would have lost. Go back and watch it again, Tebow single handily won that game with his runs and draws and not his arm.
 
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altidore17 said:
I certainly think alot of Florida fans are gonna be surprised at how big a drop of there is after Tebow leaves. I dont know if any of them realize just how PERFECT a fit Tebow is for CUM's offense.

Sure, they have Brantley, but if Brantley played yesterday, Florida would have lost. Go back and watch it again, Tebow single handily won that game with his runs and draws and not his arm.
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I agree... Brantley is a good qb (much better than we have or will have in 2010) but he is no Tebow
 
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While I agree with your post, UF still won by 10 and until they get beat ala USC, OK, they are still the best team in the country.
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I think it's a bit early to signal the beginning of a UF death spiral. They'll be a force to reckon with in the SEC east for years, UM or no UM, simply because they're UF. What I am seeing though is a withering of the swagger they've exhibited over the past 2-3 years, and their performance against the Vols leads football fans to question their superior ranking. Miami had that same attitude for a number of years and we now see what happened to that team ("thug univ") - they're just now getting back to becoming competitive in their weak conference, certainly not a team you'd mention as a national power.
 
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Gavolboy said:
I think it's a bit early to signal the beginning of a UF death spiral. They'll be a force to reckon with in the SEC east for years, UM or no UM, simply because they're UF. What I am seeing though is a withering of the swagger they've exhibited over the past 2-3 years, and their performance against the Vols leads football fans to question their superior ranking. Miami had that same attitude for a number of years and we now see what happened to that team ("thug univ") - they're just now getting back to becoming competitive in their weak conference, certainly not a team you'd mention as a national power.
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I said a serious blow to urban meyer, not uf.
 
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People, it is all about our coaching staff. Kiffin took a huge negative marketing situation and turned it into a positive on Saturday. With all the air time about the anointing of the King of College Football in his excellency, Pope Urban, we found out that the emperor has no clothes.

I can not wait until Kiffin and this staff has their own players. I just hope that we can make enough progress this year to avoid a loosing season with the holes in the depth chart that Fulmer created with inadequate recruiting. I think that UT and Ohio State are the only two schools in the nation that have never had back to back loosing seasons. I do not want to give that up since no other SEC school can ever claim that.
 
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Volfan76 said:
I have been thinking about the true implications of this and I believe it may be the beginning of the end for Meyer.
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With all due respect, Volfan76, I think you are delusional here. Urban Meyer just beat Tennessee and it wasn't really as close as the score indicated. At one point, the Vols were saved due to an unsportsmanlike penalty on the Gators. Without that 15-yard penalty, the score probably would have been worse, so the game was not close due entirely to Tennessee's gameplay or Florida's lack of gameplay. Coach Meyer is there for the long haul, that is obvious to anyone and this win over the Vols didn't change anything. They are still 3-0 and ranked in the top 3. The top recruits will continue to head for UF at this point and to think that there are concerns at any level of Gatornation for UM's future is flat out crazy.
 
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altidore17 said:
I certainly think alot of Florida fans are gonna be surprised at how big a drop of there is after Tebow leaves. I dont know if any of them realize just how PERFECT a fit Tebow is for CUM's offense.

Sure, they have Brantley, but if Brantley played yesterday, Florida would have lost. Go back and watch it again, Tebow single handily won that game with his runs and draws and not his arm.
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I think you have to assume that if it was Brantley, the Gators would have an entirely different offense.

Tebow yet again put the Gators on his shoulders yesterday and won the game for us, but trying to guess what would have happened if he wasn't the QB, is just that, guessing.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think you have to assume that if it was Brantley, the Gators would have an entirely different offense.

Tebow yet again put the Gators on his shoulders yesterday and won the game for us, but trying to guess what would have happened if he wasn't the QB, is just that, guessing.
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Cannot refute that...Tebow and J.Best are the two Heisman front runners by far IMO. Love him or hate him, Tebow is a damn fine football player and a winner.
 
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Volgrad98 said:
Cannot refute that...Tebow and J.Best are the two Heisman front runners by far IMO. Love him or hate him, Tebow is a damn fine football player and a winner.
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Agreed, I hope one of my NFL teams drafts him. They could both use a little help at fullback.
 
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Sorry...disagree. They're still undefeated and I find it very hard for that to be "a psychological blow," not matter how arrogant you are or are perceived to be.
I thought the comments I physically saw and heard from Meyer were surprisingly humble and classy. I haven't heard any of the things you said, but that doesn't mean I don't believe he said them...

But you're right about if Tebow had not played...we win, IMO.
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carolinaviking said:
With all due respect, Volfan76, I think you are delusional here. Urban Meyer just beat Tennessee and it wasn't really as close as the score indicated. At one point, the Vols were saved due to an unsportsmanlike penalty on the Gators. Without that 15-yard penalty, the score probably would have been worse, so the game was not close due entirely to Tennessee's gameplay or Florida's lack of gameplay. Coach Meyer is there for the long haul, that is obvious to anyone and this win over the Vols didn't change anything. They are still 3-0 and ranked in the top 3. The top recruits will continue to head for UF at this point and to think that there are concerns at any level of Gatornation for UM's future is flat out crazy.
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Actually, I think Meyer will go to Notre Dame next year, given the opportunity.
 
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If they were to succumb to a psychological blow it would've happened last year when they lost ot Ole Piss.
 
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I think some Vol fans are blowing this out of proportion. The team wasn't happy with how they played, but they were still happy to be 3-0.

The swagger is gone? Really? Did someone say that? I didn't notice it. From all the interviews, the players still seem supremely confident.

UF will continue to be a dominant force in the SEC... thats not going to suddenly change because UT only lost by 10 instead of 20 or 30...
 
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Meyer has 2 national championships, I'm pretty sure he's not worried about Kiffin anymore than he is worried about Nick Saban or any other SEC coach
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think you have to assume that if it was Brantley, the Gators would have an entirely different offense.

Tebow yet again put the Gators on his shoulders yesterday and won the game for us, but trying to guess what would have happened if he wasn't the QB, is just that, guessing.
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Sure, but fl is certainly better with him that without him don't you think?
 
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rsg87gator said:
Meyer has 2 national championships, I'm pretty sure he's not worried about Kiffin anymore than he is worried about Nick Saban or any other SEC coach
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Kiffin did get in his head. You can tell from the interviews. IMO it's kind of like the 'ol ball coach used to do.
 
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carolinaviking said:
With all due respect, Volfan76, I think you are delusional here. Urban Meyer just beat Tennessee and it wasn't really as close as the score indicated. At one point, the Vols were saved due to an unsportsmanlike penalty on the Gators. Without that 15-yard penalty, the score probably would have been worse, so the game was not close due entirely to Tennessee's gameplay or Florida's lack of gameplay. Coach Meyer is there for the long haul, that is obvious to anyone and this win over the Vols didn't change anything. They are still 3-0 and ranked in the top 3. The top recruits will continue to head for UF at this point and to think that there are concerns at any level of Gatornation for UM's future is flat out crazy.
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Do you pay any attention to recruiting at all? Tennessee now has the 3rd ranked recruiting class and Florida is 9th. The following commitments to TN have offers from Florida: Demarco Cobbs, Delvin Jones, Markeith Ambles, and Jose Jose. So if you have anything to back those remarks up other than guff, lets hear it..if not, go back to your own board troll.
 
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rsg87gator said:
Meyer has 2 national championships, I'm pretty sure he's not worried about Kiffin anymore than he is worried about Nick Saban or any other SEC coach
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My guess is that his stated reason will be the money, but it's really about the disappearing talent advantage.
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