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This is a some emails we have sent back and forth together this morning...what else can I say to change this Foolmerites mind!!!
Lane Kiffin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
All the local talking heads are fired up by the pick of Kiffin, but his very limited head coaching record is one win out of four - there may be good reasons for this but on the surface it is miserable! See Wikipedia non biased story about him.
And his fist decisions are to fire the entire defensive staff (that finished in top five statistically in the country) and to potentially retain the entire offensive staff (except for Clausen - thank goodness), who coached us to the worst Tennessee offense in my 44 years of following Tennessee football. This looks to me like he let go almost all of the older coaches (despite their performance) and is potentially keeping all the younger ones (again despite their performance). I hope I am proven wrong - huge huge gamble, and his first important decisions cause even more concern.
Love, Dad
-----Original Message-----
You are what I like to call a "Fulmerite"....
He isn't keeping anyone on the offensive staff save Latrell Scott because he is an AMAZING recruiter think Rodney Gardner from the nineties...
This is actually a genius move because he can utilze the other three's relationships with the recruits until he decides who he is going to replace them with...
And if you would have listened to the press conference yesterday...I did twice...you would have heard his reasoning for the dismissal of the Dstaff. He said it had nothing to do with their performance, saying that they are all increadible coaches ect. BUT that he already had a plan for the defensive staff that would be an exceptional staff...
Let me give you the rundow.
DC-Monte Kiffin (one of the top defensive minds EVER) DL/Rec.
Coor-Oregeron (already on record saying that our Dnickname will be the "Orange Swarm"
Linebackers/CO-DC/DC in waiting-KEVIN STEELE - Hates Nick Saban, EX UT player can learn from the best D coach ever and be our Dcoord in about 3 years after Monte retires.
Secondary coach - Eric Berry...haha I have no idea here!
Kiffin joined USC in 2000 when USC was down and was assigned 49 states to recruit BY HIMSELF and pulled in talent to USC when they didn't have any facilities and had been losing for a decade. He is an increadible offensive mind and will hire a good staff.
Come Feb, when he keeps the recruits that are waivering and pulls in the
#1 Olineman and #1 reciever (morgan moses and Marlon Brown respectively) and we go 9-3 next year and are HIGHLY competitive with our rivals you will not be a "FOOOLMERITE" anymore
Eric
-----Original Message-----
At the press conference he stated he was potentially retaining all four of the offensive staff (except Clausen), so I am not sure about your suggestion he is only retaining one. I hear lots of talk about the great staff he will put together, but let's see if it really happens.
He has announced only one - the QB coach and recruiting coordinator at South Carolina (his brother in law) that has good reputation as a recruiter. I would expect we will pull in a good class this year (before Fulmer announcement we were rated number 7), and provided Vols have a decent year next year, hopefully our next class will be very good. But to stay at a high recruiting level requires winning big, and he has no track record to convince me he will deliver.
As I said before there is a 10-20% chance this will be a home run (Carroll, Richt, Stoops)- I hope it is, but the best prediction of future wins is a proven track record as a winner (B Pearl, R Mears, J Green in UT BB) vs. W Houston (also had rep as a great recruiter at a big name BB school (Louisville - 2 NC's during his assistant period), and we all know what a flop he proved to be. FB - Tressel - won NC at low division, Meyer - big winner at two smaller schools, Saban - previous NC at LSU, Miles - earlier winner at OSU, Tuberville - previous modest success at Ole Miss. We are taking a big gamble that for a program of our stature is not necessary. It could pay off, but there is a large risk (80-90%) it will fail. There were other choices that would have had a much higher likelihood of success that could have been attracted to UT, and that would have been my preference. I don't see much reason to be optimistic by what I read on Wikipedia either. Kiffin is more appropriate for a program that could not hire a proven winner.
I am optimistic that Kiffin has excellent recruiting skills, and that is vital for us. My concern is no proven record as a winning coach??? The last time UT went with a very young FB coach (B Battle at 28 years old), we started out great (11-1, 10-2, 10-2) and gradually got worse every year until he was fired after seven years. A 5-15 record for Kiffin, even at the dysfunctional Raiders gives me further reason to be a
skeptic.
Over the last 16 years and the four games of '92 that Fulmer coached, we have averaged 9.3 wins per full season, including a perfect 13-0 national championship, 2 SEC championships, 5 SEC championship game appearances, 7 SEC East championships (won 5, tied for two others), our most dominating decade ever (90's) and a 75% winning percentage. I will be surprised if we can match that record over the next 16+ years.
Again, I hope I am proven wrong.
Love, Dad
-----Original Message-----
Lane Kiffin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
All the local talking heads are fired up by the pick of Kiffin, but his very limited head coaching record is one win out of four - there may be good reasons for this but on the surface it is miserable! See Wikipedia non biased story about him.
And his fist decisions are to fire the entire defensive staff (that finished in top five statistically in the country) and to potentially retain the entire offensive staff (except for Clausen - thank goodness), who coached us to the worst Tennessee offense in my 44 years of following Tennessee football. This looks to me like he let go almost all of the older coaches (despite their performance) and is potentially keeping all the younger ones (again despite their performance). I hope I am proven wrong - huge huge gamble, and his first important decisions cause even more concern.
Love, Dad
-----Original Message-----
You are what I like to call a "Fulmerite"....
He isn't keeping anyone on the offensive staff save Latrell Scott because he is an AMAZING recruiter think Rodney Gardner from the nineties...
This is actually a genius move because he can utilze the other three's relationships with the recruits until he decides who he is going to replace them with...
And if you would have listened to the press conference yesterday...I did twice...you would have heard his reasoning for the dismissal of the Dstaff. He said it had nothing to do with their performance, saying that they are all increadible coaches ect. BUT that he already had a plan for the defensive staff that would be an exceptional staff...
Let me give you the rundow.
DC-Monte Kiffin (one of the top defensive minds EVER) DL/Rec.
Coor-Oregeron (already on record saying that our Dnickname will be the "Orange Swarm"
Linebackers/CO-DC/DC in waiting-KEVIN STEELE - Hates Nick Saban, EX UT player can learn from the best D coach ever and be our Dcoord in about 3 years after Monte retires.
Secondary coach - Eric Berry...haha I have no idea here!
Kiffin joined USC in 2000 when USC was down and was assigned 49 states to recruit BY HIMSELF and pulled in talent to USC when they didn't have any facilities and had been losing for a decade. He is an increadible offensive mind and will hire a good staff.
Come Feb, when he keeps the recruits that are waivering and pulls in the
#1 Olineman and #1 reciever (morgan moses and Marlon Brown respectively) and we go 9-3 next year and are HIGHLY competitive with our rivals you will not be a "FOOOLMERITE" anymore
Eric
-----Original Message-----
At the press conference he stated he was potentially retaining all four of the offensive staff (except Clausen), so I am not sure about your suggestion he is only retaining one. I hear lots of talk about the great staff he will put together, but let's see if it really happens.
He has announced only one - the QB coach and recruiting coordinator at South Carolina (his brother in law) that has good reputation as a recruiter. I would expect we will pull in a good class this year (before Fulmer announcement we were rated number 7), and provided Vols have a decent year next year, hopefully our next class will be very good. But to stay at a high recruiting level requires winning big, and he has no track record to convince me he will deliver.
As I said before there is a 10-20% chance this will be a home run (Carroll, Richt, Stoops)- I hope it is, but the best prediction of future wins is a proven track record as a winner (B Pearl, R Mears, J Green in UT BB) vs. W Houston (also had rep as a great recruiter at a big name BB school (Louisville - 2 NC's during his assistant period), and we all know what a flop he proved to be. FB - Tressel - won NC at low division, Meyer - big winner at two smaller schools, Saban - previous NC at LSU, Miles - earlier winner at OSU, Tuberville - previous modest success at Ole Miss. We are taking a big gamble that for a program of our stature is not necessary. It could pay off, but there is a large risk (80-90%) it will fail. There were other choices that would have had a much higher likelihood of success that could have been attracted to UT, and that would have been my preference. I don't see much reason to be optimistic by what I read on Wikipedia either. Kiffin is more appropriate for a program that could not hire a proven winner.
I am optimistic that Kiffin has excellent recruiting skills, and that is vital for us. My concern is no proven record as a winning coach??? The last time UT went with a very young FB coach (B Battle at 28 years old), we started out great (11-1, 10-2, 10-2) and gradually got worse every year until he was fired after seven years. A 5-15 record for Kiffin, even at the dysfunctional Raiders gives me further reason to be a
skeptic.
Over the last 16 years and the four games of '92 that Fulmer coached, we have averaged 9.3 wins per full season, including a perfect 13-0 national championship, 2 SEC championships, 5 SEC championship game appearances, 7 SEC East championships (won 5, tied for two others), our most dominating decade ever (90's) and a 75% winning percentage. I will be surprised if we can match that record over the next 16+ years.
Again, I hope I am proven wrong.
Love, Dad
-----Original Message-----
