Kiffin allegedly tells recruit he will be "pumping gas"/denies it (merged)

Not you. VOLFAN198111
Gotcha. Sorry, my bad. I did not notice that was addressed to VOLFAN198111.

Anyway, I can understand Kiffen wanting to get the UT Nation fired up and wanting to get some media attention to the program, but it seems to me he could accomplish that in a more mature and classier manner than he has so far. Hopefully, he'll get a grip pretty soon. It seems he's probably got the potential to be successful, but I think he's probably making things harder on himself. For starters, I doubt some of the SEC coaches CLK has "dissed" are going to hesitate to run up scores a bit if they're able to. Plus, it seems to me that the UT nation would likely be considerably more patient with the challenging rebuilding process CLK has to tackle if he'd be a little more careful about what he says -- i.e., to make sure he's representing UT in a classy manner. Anyway, it's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out over time.
 
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BTW, I probably won't visit here very often. And, FWIW, please accept that it's not my intent to be disrespectful or insulting to Vols fans. Alot of SEC fans like to poke fun at rival fans, as I do, but that doesn't mean I disrespect or "hate" those teams or their fans. I won't be posting here with the intent to "trash talk" or try to inflame you, but moreso just to offer a different point of view or to poke a little harmless fun. Hopefully, that's not against forum rules.
 
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I also happen to think Fulmer was an accomplished and pretty well respected coach with a solid winning record over the long term, who should have been given at least one more year to try and right the ship. JMO.

That's a pretty common belief held by rival fans.
 
BTW, I probably won't visit here very often. And, FWIW, please accept that it's not my intent to be disrespectful or insulting to Vols fans. Alot of SEC fans like to poke fun at rival fans, as I do, but that doesn't mean I disrespect or "hate" those teams or their fans. I won't be posting here with the intent to "trash talk" or try to inflame you, but moreso just to offer a different point of view or to poke a little harmless fun. Hopefully, that's not against forum rules.

Rival fans who like intelligent conversation and friendly banter are always welcome. There are numerous other forums/topics you might enjoy as well.
 
Yes I am a Volfan and after CLK pubicly stated after he found out about this he called Alshon (in public on speaker phone with others listening in)and asked him about it he said he didn't know where the comment had come from,so it's a fabrication from somewhere ?surely not from the saintly coaching staff at SC?what does that say about the individual who made this comment and what does this say about Low for running with this story ?I'm not impressed,SC has got one coming and I'll guarantee it's not gonna be pretty :yes:
 
Benefit of the doubt.

You earn this. This guy just has NO credibility.

Who has more to gain in the situation,

1. A player already committed to a school, a player looking to committ to a school, and the head coach of their high school football team all sitting in a room. By making this up they gain absolutely nothing. Just nothing at all, you have to wake up pretty early to attempt to come up with conspiracy theories as to why they would collaborate and lie about this.

2. The Head Coach of Tenn who after several blunders has the reputation of a slightly functioning retarded adult making yet another publicly embarassing comment (minus the enjoyment of an occasional 14 yr old humor leveled Vol fan).

LK has everything to gain in denying it, and the group of players and coach has nothing to gain from saying it.

It is not even the story what was said anymore, as much of it being LK lied about it.

Really, do we think if there was some conversation LK had recently with Jeffery given his reputation it would it not have been recorded and played at another awkward microphoned event by now? How would Jeffery react to all this nonsense anyway.

One day he is minding his business giving some reporter a few minutes of an interview, next thing this coach is calling you again,,,,dang just leave it alone,,,

I think we can all agree on this, this story can't go away soon enough.
 
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Benefit of the doubt.

You earn this. This guy just has NO credibility.

Who has more to gain in the situation,

1. A player already committed to a school, a player looking to committ to a school, and the head coach of their high school football team all sitting in a room. By making this up they gain absolutely nothing. Just nothing at all, you have to wake up pretty early to attempt to come up with conspiracy theories as to why they would collaborate and lie about this.

2. The Head Coach of Tenn who after several blunders has the reputation of a slightly functioning retarded adult making yet another publicly embarassing comment (minus the enjoyment of an occasional 14 yr old humor leveled Vol fan).

LK has everything to gain in denying it, and the group of players and coach has nothing to gain from saying it.

It is not even the story what was said anymore, as much of it being LK lied about it.

Really, do we think if there was some conversation LK had recently with Jeffery given his reputation it would it not have been recorded and played at another awkward microphoned event by now? How would Jeffery react to all this nonsense anyway.

One day he is minding his business giving some reporter a few minutes of an interview, next thing this coach is calling you again,,,,dang just leave it alone,,,

I think we can all agree on this, this story can't go away soon enough.

Considering he knows he's under a microscope, why would he go on record as saying he contacted Alshon to get the real story behind the statements, which Alshon said he had no idea where the statements came from?

That, to me, just reeks of someone fabricating a story and throwing it out there for the hack media types to take and run with without any verification since it involved Kiffin.

Kiffin knows his statements will make it back to Alshon and his coach, so why would he lie when it could be turned back on him in a heartbeat and make him look even worse than how some perceive him already?
 
Considering he knows he's under a microscope, why would he go on record as saying he contacted Alshon to get the real story behind the statements, which Alshon said he had no idea where the statements came from?

That, to me, just reeks of someone fabricating a story and throwing it out there for the hack media types to take and run with without any verification since it involved Kiffin.

Kiffin knows his statements will make it back to Alshon and his coach, so why would he lie when it could be turned back on him in a heartbeat and make him look even worse than how some perceive him already?

Again,

You would then have to beleive:

1. An ESPN reporter was completely duped by all his contacts or lied about thier comments.

2. Two high school football players and their head coach all lied about the event (having been asked separately and giving the EXACT same story)

Just does not add up guys, and when the guy making the rebutal about making the statement:

1. Called an entire Florida Town stupid bascially.
2. Falsely accused another head coach of a recruiting violation.
And,,,well the list goes on.

If you were to put a Vegas Line on it, where would the deed to your house go?
 
Again,

You would then have to beleive:

1. An ESPN reporter was completely duped by all his contacts or lied about thier comments.

2. Two high school football players and their head coach all lied about the event (having been asked separately and giving the EXACT same story)

Just does not add up guys, and when the guy making the rebutal about making the statement:

1. Called an entire Florida Town stupid bascially.
2. Falsely accused another head coach of a recruiting violation.
And,,,well the list goes on.

If you were to put a Vegas Line on it, where would the deed to your house go?

Well, I guess if Lane did lie about it all, then we will hear the fallout shortly, won't we?

Until then, take off your tinfoil hat and enjoy the weekend.
 
Again,

You would then have to beleive:

1. An ESPN reporter was completely duped by all his contacts or lied about thier comments.

2. Two high school football players and their head coach all lied about the event (having been asked separately and giving the EXACT same story)

Just does not add up guys, and when the guy making the rebutal about making the statement:

1. Called an entire Florida Town stupid bascially.
2. Falsely accused another head coach of a recruiting violation.
And,,,well the list goes on.

If you were to put a Vegas Line on it, where would the deed to your house go?

Just out of curiosity, you don't have a mug shot you could let our photoshop guys borrow, do you?
 
Again,

You would then have to beleive:

1. An ESPN reporter was completely duped by all his contacts or lied about thier comments.

2. Two high school football players and their head coach all lied about the event (having been asked separately and giving the EXACT same story)

Just does not add up guys, and when the guy making the rebutal about making the statement:

1. Called an entire Florida Town stupid bascially.
2. Falsely accused another head coach of a recruiting violation.
And,,,well the list goes on.

If you were to put a Vegas Line on it, where would the deed to your house go?

Your coach falsely accused our coach of a recruiting violation and then proceeded to get himself banned from the premises of a high school. And Kiffin said nothing about the town being stupid. He insinuated there were people at a particular school that might be unwilling to help NuKeese fax his letter of intent to UT.
 
Jeffery’s coach tries to get past gas-gate | GoGamecocks


Calhoun County High football coach Walter Wilson said he is ready for “the whole thing to die down.”

Easier said than done.

Two days after ESPN.com reported Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin told Saints player Alshon Jeffery he would “end up pumping gas for the rest of his life” if he signed with the Gamecocks — and a day after the Volunteers’ coach denied saying that — Wilson said he has written off the episode to the pressures of recruiting.

“It’s not the first time a (college) coach made a statement like this” during recruiting, Wilson said Wednesday. “We need to move on.”

The feelings of USC’s coaching staff might be another matter.

Two members of Steve Spurrier’s staff confirmed that Wilson, and later Jeffery and teammate Eric Mack, told USC coaches about Kiffin’s comments, one day after Jeffery chose the Gamecocks over Southern Cal and Tennessee.

One USC staffer, insisting on anonymity, said Wilson told him the next day about Kiffin’s words during a telephone conversation.

“I asked (Wilson) how recruiting had gone, and he said, ‘nasty,’” the USC staffer said. “I asked him what, and he told me.

“I called Alshon and asked, ‘Is that true?’ and he said, ‘Yeah.’ Then I talked to Mack: ‘Is that true?’ ‘Yeah.’ All three told me the same thing, word for word.”

ESPN.com’s Chris Low reported Kiffin’s comment came during a late-night phone conversation on the eve of National Signing Day. Wilson, Jeffery and Mack — a junior expected to be heavily recruited next season — were in an Orangeburg hotel room, taking calls on a speaker phone from Kiffin, USC coaches and Southern Cal coach Pete Carroll.

When Jeffery made it clear he would not choose Tennessee, Wilson and Jeffery said Kiffin predicted a gas-pumping future for Jeffery, “like all the other players from that state who had gone to South Carolina,” Low wrote.

Wilson said Kiffin’s words “might’ve bothered the kid (Jeffery).” ESPN.com quoted Jeffery as saying, “(Kiffin) said it, but it’s not worth talking about.”

“Alshon doesn’t like the spotlight,” Wilson said. “Everyone needs to just leave the kid alone. He made his decision.”

Low told The State that in separate interviews with Wilson and Jeffery, both “had every opportunity to bash Kiffin and Tennessee, and (Wilson) went out of his way not to. (Jeffery) chose not to expound, other than to say it happened.

“I asked (Jeffery) a second time: How do you feel about it? He said he’d rather not talk about it anymore, but (Kiffin) definitely said it.”

Wilson said he told Mack to pay attention to the process. “He’s learning, first-hand, what happens” in recruiting, Wilson said. “It’s on-the-job training for next year.”

The Saints’ coach said he took no offense to Kiffin’s comments and that Tennessee assistant David Reaves (a former USC assistant) has told him the Volunteers plan to pursue Mack next year.

“If you like my kids and want to recruit them, fine,” Wilson said. “(Recruiting) is a war, survival of the fittest.”

According to Low, Kiffin did not respond to requests to comment for the original story. The Tennessee coach, however, later denied making the pumping-gas statement.

“I never said that to Alshon, nor would I say anything like that,” Low quoted Kiffin as saying. “That’s just not something I would say.”

Told about Kiffin’s denial, Wilson sighed.

“It doesn’t matter,” he said. “My kid is happy where he chose. That’s all that matters.

“I don’t want to get into a back and forth. Sometimes, you need to look at the man in the mirror.”

Yep its pretty obvious here that Kiffin said it and then lied about not saying it. Even if the writers were gamecock fans, the quotes were real.
 
I really dont know if he did it or not. The media is getting hard up to find more dirt on kiffin. Its time to let this go.
 
Yep its pretty obvious here that Kiffin said it and then lied about not saying it. Even if the writers were gamecock fans, the quotes were real.

then why did your boy tell Kiffin that he never said it, let me guess, the quotes were lies
 
Yep its pretty obvious here that Kiffin said it and then lied about not saying it. Even if the writers were gamecock fans, the quotes were real.

this is USCjr trying to ride on CLK's coattails and gain some media attention. They knew it would be a story and would make someone notice the little team in Columbia. Congrats now go back to making sure you finish ahead of UK in the east
 
This story will never die! I was listening to a sports radio show in Houston this past week and they were still talking about it! :mad:
 
this is USCjr trying to ride on CLK's coattails and gain some media attention. They knew it would be a story and would make someone notice the little team in Columbia. Congrats now go back to making sure you finish ahead of UK in the east


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then why did your boy tell Kiffin that he never said it, let me guess, the quotes were lies

so he could put it to rest. He didnt want to receive the national fallout from it and get in a fight with kiffin. Jeffery, Mack, and their coach have no reason to lie. If Kiffin told the truth, UT fans would be let down which we all know he doesn't want.
 
so he could put it to rest. He didnt want to receive the national fallout from it and get in a fight with kiffin. Jeffery, Mack, and their coach have no reason to lie. If Kiffin told the truth, UT fans would be let down which we all know he doesn't want.

that's a joke, right....he was not man enough to say it to Kiffen's face....do not make him out to be the "noble" one in this
 
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