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USAF_Vol · Oct 4, 2005

After having a conversation with my buddy GatorsN07, I agree that Leak is not the best QB to run the UM "scheme" offense. With that being said.

How scared would we be if Brent Schaeffer went to UF after his year at JUCO. Good lord, with his speed and the fact he probably wants to get at us, that would be a disaster waiting to happen.

I know there are superstitious folk out there, so knock on wood, cross your fingers, toss the salt, or whatever we need to do. Trust me. I will pray that don't happen. But man, bad news for UT if that were to happen.

volbrian · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Oct 4, 2005 11:52 AM
After having a conversation with my buddy GatorsN07, I agree that Leak is not the best QB to run the UM "scheme" offense. With that being said.

How scared would we be if Brent Schaeffer went to UF after his year at JUCO. Good lord, with his speed and the fact he probably wants to get at us, that would be a disaster waiting to happen.

I know there are superstitious folk out there, so knock on wood, cross your fingers, toss the salt, or whatever we need to do. Trust me. I will pray that don't happen. But man, bad news for UT if that were to happen.

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Its not the players nor the coach that has me down on UF. Its the spread option. It just wont fly in the SEC. If UM and BS want to run it successfully, then go back to Utah or some other mid major. Hell, even the PAC 10. Lord knows they dont play defense out there anyways.

GatorsN07 · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by volbrian@Oct 4, 2005 12:07 PM
Its not the players nor the coach that has me down on UF. Its the spread option. It just wont fly in the SEC. If UM and BS want to run it successfully, then go back to Utah or some other mid major. Hell, even the PAC 10. Lord knows they dont play defense out there anyways.

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I just don't understand how you can say that, considering the play that scored the touchdown on Tennessee is set up strictly because of the spread option. I realize people do reverses and end arounds in just about every offense. But, the spread option sets it up beautifully and makes fast defenses, like Tenn, over commit. Also, Chris Leak runs between a 4.75-4.9 40, according to nfldraftscout.com. At that speed, most Defensive Tackles in the SEC can chase him down. I believe if we get a quarterback, such as Schaffer, who runs a 4.5 40, that eliminates even most linebackers from chasing him down. The spread offense is not that glamorous. It's grind it out football to set up for a big play. Leak is not a mobile quarterback, just watch him play. If you are not convinced after that, watch some games of Alex Smith at Utah. Once again, this is just my opinion. But Leak has always been in a pro-style offense and hardly rushed for any yards in high school. He threw for 15,000 yards in high school though. He is a pocket passer.

volbrian · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by GatorsN07@Oct 4, 2005 12:33 PM
I just don't understand how you can say that, considering the play that scored the touchdown on Tennessee is set up strictly because of the spread option. I realize people do reverses and end arounds in just about every offense. But, the spread option sets it up beautifully and makes fast defenses, like Tenn, over commit. Also, Chris Leak runs between a 4.75-4.9 40, according to nfldraftscout.com. At that speed, most Defensive Tackles in the SEC can chase him down. I believe if we get a quarterback, such as Schaffer, who runs a 4.5 40, that eliminates even most linebackers from chasing him down. The spread offense is not that glamorous. It's grind it out football to set up for a big play. Leak is not a mobile quarterback, just watch him play. If you are not convinced after that, watch some games of Alex Smith at Utah. Once again, this is just my opinion. But Leak has always been in a pro-style offense and hardly rushed for any yards in high school. He threw for 15,000 yards in high school though. He is a pocket passer.

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"...the play that scored the touchdown on Tennessee..."

Thats all you need to say right there.

THE Touchdown. Not THE TouchdownS. Not THOSE TOUCHDOWNS. THE TOUCHDOWN. They tried that same play on Bama what happened? The Bama DE Stayed at home and tackled the player for a short loss. Run that play on UT next year and see if UT doesnt contain it.

As far as what UM did at Utah, big freakin deal! This isnt Utah. They dont play the Wyomings and Coloroado states of college football. This is the SEC. Id like to seen AS display his "talents" with a UGA, BAMA or UT defense on the field against him. WHo did Utah play last year? Pitt! Thats all. ANd Pitt is from what conference again? The Big Least? by far the weakest of the BCS conferences.

You folks can drink the kool ade all you wish. But Im going to just stick with the good ole Tennessee Sippin Whiskey.

GatorsN07 · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by volbrian@Oct 4, 2005 12:44 PM
"...the play that scored the touchdown on Tennessee..."

Thats all you need to say right there.

THE Touchdown. Not THE TouchdownS. Not THOSE TOUCHDOWNS. THE TOUCHDOWN. They tried that same play on Bama what happened? The Bama DE Stayed at home and tackled the player for a short loss. Run that play on UT next year and see if UT doesnt contain it.

As far as what UM did at Utah, big freakin deal! This isnt Utah. They dont play the Wyomings and Coloroado states of college football. This is the SEC. Id like to seen AS display his "talents" with a UGA, BAMA or UT defense on the field against him. WHo did Utah play last year? Pitt! Thats all. ANd Pitt is from what conference again? The Big Least? by far the weakest of the BCS conferences.
You folks can drink the kool ade all you wish. But Im going to just stick with the good ole Tennessee Sippin Whiskey.

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Okay, I'll say this one more time, so take the wax out of your ears. Urban Meyer's system is not working with Chris Leak at quarterback right now. And you are right, Utah does not play against the SEC. Nor does Utah get the kind of recruits that the powerhouses of the SEC get. And neither do the teams that Utah plays against. The reason they are playing against weak teams is because they are a weak team in a weak conference. UM's system helped a garbage team (Utah) beat other garbage teams in a garbage conference. Why can't it work to help a good team beat other good teams. I don't care what system Utah ran, they would not have beaten Tenn, Florida, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Vanderbilt, Alabama, South Carolina or Miss St. last year. Teams Utah played last year had comparable speed to Utah's. The only reason I'm making this argument is because after 1 loss and Florida barely beating one of the best defenses in the country, it must be the system. Utah did not dominate everyone last year. The players have to execute the system and they are not getting it done.

volbrian · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by GatorsN07@Oct 4, 2005 2:37 PM
Okay, I'll say this one more time, so take the wax out of your ears. Urban Meyer's system is not working with Chris Leak at quarterback right now. And you are right, Utah does not play against the SEC. Nor does Utah get the kind of recruits that the powerhouses of the SEC get. And neither do the teams that Utah plays against. The reason they are playing against weak teams is because they are a weak team in a weak conference. UM's system helped a garbage team (Utah) beat other garbage teams in a garbage conference. Why can't it work to help a good team beat other good teams. I don't care what system Utah ran, they would not have beaten Tenn, Florida, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Vanderbilt, Alabama, South Carolina or Miss St. last year. Teams Utah played last year had comparable speed to Utah's. The only reason I'm making this argument is because after 1 loss and Florida barely beating one of the best defenses in the country, it must be the system. Utah did not dominate everyone last year. The players have to execute the system and they are not getting it done.

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Ok. Im going to say this one more time, so take the crap from between your ears. I DONT GIVE A RATS BEHIND WHO IS RUNNING THE SPREAD OFFENSE! IT WONT FLY IN THE SEC!

Bear Bryant ran the wishbone for a lot of years. He was very successful at it. If he was so successful at it, why doesnt anyone run it anymore? BECAUSE DEFENSES HAVE EVOLVED TO THE POINT THAT THEY CAN DEFEND IT!!!!

We said it that day AFTER the UF win over UT. We are still saying it. UF WON BECAUSE OF UTS OFFENSIVE WOES!!! NOT BECAUSE OF UFS DEFENSE!!!

If you want to thump your chest about containing the UT offense, be my guest. You can join UAB, Ole Miss and HALF the LSU team. So you see, UT is having problems on offense. We realize this. UF wants to take that to mean they have a great defense. GET REAL!

OldVol · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Oct 4, 2005 11:52 AM
After having a conversation with my buddy GatorsN07, I agree that Leak is not the best QB to run the UM "scheme" offense. With that being said.

How scared would we be if Brent Schaeffer went to UF after his year at JUCO. Good lord, with his speed and the fact he probably wants to get at us, that would be a disaster waiting to happen.

I know there are superstitious folk out there, so knock on wood, cross your fingers, toss the salt, or whatever we need to do. Trust me. I will pray that don't happen. But man, bad news for UT if that were to happen.

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Shaeffer is just the opposite of Leak. Where you can't hardly pay Leak to run, you can't get Shaeffer to look down field.

It wouldn't bother me to see him go to Florida.

I have very little confidence in Meyer's system in this league. If our offense had showed up we'd have won this year. No one thought our O would struggle so.

That was a wasted opportunity for us.

GatorsN07 · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by volbrian@Oct 4, 2005 2:45 PM
Ok. Im going to say this one more time, so take the crap from between your ears. I DONT GIVE A RATS BEHIND WHO IS RUNNING THE SPREAD OFFENSE! IT WONT FLY IN THE SEC!

Bear Bryant ran the wishbone for a lot of years. He was very successful at it. If he was so successful at it, why doesnt anyone run it anymore? BECAUSE DEFENSES HAVE EVOLVED TO THE POINT THAT THEY CAN DEFEND IT!!!!

We said it that day AFTER the UF win over UT. We are still saying it. UF WON BECAUSE OF UTS OFFENSIVE WOES!!! NOT BECAUSE OF UFS DEFENSE!!!

If you want to thump your chest about containing the UT offense, be my guest. You can join UAB, Ole Miss and HALF the LSU team. So you see, UT is having problems on offense. We realize this. UF wants to take that to mean they have a great defense. GET REAL!

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I never even said anything about Florida having a great defense. Obviously, we have some problems after watching the Alabama game. Our corners are a little suspect, especially in man coverage which we run over 60% of the time. I respect your opinion, but only time will tell if the system will work. It's too early! :good:

volbrian · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by GatorsN07@Oct 4, 2005 2:56 PM
I never even said anything about Florida having a great defense. Obviously, we have some problems after watching the Alabama game. Our corners are a little suspect, especially in man coverage which we run over 60% of the time. I respect your opinion, but only time will tell if the system will work. It's too early! :good:

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Ok. fair nuff. But remember, you read it here first.

USAF_Vol · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by OldVol@Oct 4, 2005 2:45 PM
Shaeffer is just the opposite of Leak. Where you can't hardly pay Leak to run, you can't get Shaeffer to look down field.

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lol: lol: lol:

Yeah, Schaefer did have a few good throwing games. But you are right, he rarely looked downfield. But it would be a better start for UF to have a guy who isn't afraid of running. And then teach him to throw. Just how I see it anyways. I may be totally off. But Brent was awesome when he was here.

Lexvol · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Oct 4, 2005 3:14 PM
lol: lol: lol:

Yeah, Schaefer did have a few good throwing games. But you are right, he rarely looked downfield. But it would be a better start for UF to have a guy who isn't afraid of running. And then teach him to throw. Just how I see it anyways. I may be totally off. But Brent was awesome when he was here.

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Bad News: Judging Schaeffer by last year he has the ability to go down field.

Good News: Judging Schaeffer by last year he is not durable enough to run the spread offense, and he is a discipline liability.

If I were Leak, I would be concerned about the kid behind me. If Fla loses another game, I imagine that Meyer will be playing his QB. If he has an opportunity, he better leave this year. He is a pocket passer.

USAF_Vol · Oct 4, 2005

Yeah, BS has the ability to throw downfield. The SC game where he broke his arm, I remember that. Guess it doesn't read right. Yeah durability is a must. But I think he could do it. And DISCIPLINE is always a factor. He is full of shenanigans.

GatorsN07 · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 4, 2005 3:17 PM
Bad News: Judging Schaeffer by last year he has the ability to go down field.

Good News: Judging Schaeffer by last year he is not durable enough to run the spread offense, and he is a discipline liability.

If I were Leak, I would be concerned about the kid behind me. If Fla loses another game, I imagine that Meyer will be playing his QB. If he has an opportunity, he better leave this year. He is a pocket passer.

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Thank you. Although, I like Leak and hope Urban finds a way for the system to work with him in it. :bow:

USAF_Vol · Oct 4, 2005

Hey Lexvol, no drunken typing allowed

Lexvol · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Oct 4, 2005 3:22 PM
Yeah, BS has the ability to throw downfield. The SC game where he broke his arm, I remember that. Guess it doesn't read right. Yeah durability is a must. But I think he could do it. And DISCIPLINE is always a factor. He is full of shenanigans.

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Maybe Meyer can keep him from walking around at night and thumping other peoples melon.

USAF_Vol · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 4, 2005 3:25 PM
Maybe Meyer can keep him from walking around at night and thumping other peoples melon.

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lol: lol: lol: lol: lol:

Lexvol · Oct 4, 2005

I would not be surprised at all if he ended up at Fla State or Nebraska.

USAF_Vol · Oct 4, 2005

I hope he is out of the SEC. But the best of luck to him.

VolBeef88 · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Oct 4, 2005 11:52 AM
After having a conversation with my buddy GatorsN07, I agree that Leak is not the best QB to run the UM "scheme" offense. With that being said.

How scared would we be if Brent Schaeffer went to UF after his year at JUCO. Good lord, with his speed and the fact he probably wants to get at us, that would be a disaster waiting to happen.

I know there are superstitious folk out there, so knock on wood, cross your fingers, toss the salt, or whatever we need to do. Trust me. I will pray that don't happen. But man, bad news for UT if that were to happen.

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I am not scared one bit. If he wants some bring it. I wish him the best.

Lexvol · Oct 4, 2005

Originally posted by VolBeef88@Oct 4, 2005 3:32 PM
I am not scared one bit. If he wants some bring it. I wish him the best.

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