Kamara is the scarier of our star running backs

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#77
KBVol said:
Yes. And for those who would say Kamara got all his yards vs lesser competition.....he averaged more yards per carry vs the best teams we played as well.
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True. However, I can't think of many times that Kamara was used on 3rd and short. That was left for Hurd, which would naturally pull down his average.

Either way, they're both great backs with different strengths.
 
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hndog609 said:
Kinda this. Define "scarier". If you mean on any given pitch/handoff then Kamara certainly seems to have the most potential to really gash a defense. If you mean the ability to continue to gain yards on most any play and keep the chains moving Hurd seems pretty vetted.
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Hubbs was asked about this very thing this morning on 104.5 the Zone in Nashville. He said coaches are more scared about Kamara's ability in the open field to, on any one play, score from anywhere on the field. He said that ability puts more pressure on a defense.

He also said that Jalen has been working hard this offseason to be better in the open field, to be able to "make a safety miss and outrun and linebacker" so he can add the ability to break off long runs to his resume.....said he hasn't yet shown that ability.

He said Jalen is very well aware of this weakness and how he's perceived as a running back because of it and that his focus and attention has been put on that the entire offseason, to get better at making people miss and outrun others to be able to score from anywhere on the field.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
True. However, I can't think of many times that Kamara was used on 3rd and short. That was left for Hurd, which would naturally pull down his average.

Either way, they're both great backs with different strengths.
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Agree. And, Kamara shouldn't be used on third a short, as we saw vs Oklahoma when we wound up kicking the 18 yard field goal. ....that should be Hurd's job in terms of running between the tackles to get short yardage. Now, if you want to flare AK outside and throw to him, like we did twice on the goaline in shortage situations vs Georgia, then that's good, he scored twice that way.
 
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dcm3w said:
Hurd has been brilliant with the ball turning 1-2 yard gains in to 6 or 7. But what he needs to work on is breakaway speed and breaking the easy arm tackles.
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I don't recall many if any easy arm tackles made on Hurd. I recall trips by grabbing his ankles after hauling half the line 3-4 yards, or being run out of bounds due to the better angle of the defender because Hurd was slowed by shrugging off 3-4 defenders or being taken down by 4 defenders riding his back. Untouched before a one on one show down with a single defender making an easy arm tackle is a video I'd like to see. :unsure:
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
True. However, I can't think of many times that Kamara was used on 3rd and short. That was left for Hurd, which would naturally pull down his average.

Either way, they're both great backs with different strengths.
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Hurd had a better ypc average in the Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, Alabama and Northwestern games. Not sure where you guys are getting your stats.
 
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#83
I love the fact at how we are talking about how scary both of our starting RBs are. Cannot wait for the season :dance2:
 
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Fingers said:
We have Kendrick vs Richmond. Let's do Hurd vs Kamara.

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I must disagree. While trying to catch and contain Kamara might be daunting, I would never, ever want to try and stand in Jalen Hurd's running lane. Remember Bill Bates trying to stop Herschel Walker? Hurd is the closest to being that I have ever seen.

With Kamara being defended by three guys, 2 contain while the closest brings him down.

To bring down Hurd, you need all three to hit him. And none of them really want to be the first.
 
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#87
It's just difficult to compare the two.

I don't think many would argue that Hurd needs to have the more touches of the two since he can wear down opponents and he's the better short yardage back.

But at the same time not giving Kamara 10-15 touches per game is a criminal misuse of his talent and ability.
 
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OrangeSquid said:
I don't recall many if any easy arm tackles made on Hurd. I recall trips by grabbing his ankles after hauling half the line 3-4 yards, or being run out of bounds due to the better angle of the defender because Hurd was slowed by shrugging off 3-4 defenders or being taken down by 4 defenders riding his back. Untouched before a one on one show down with a single defender making an easy arm tackle is a video I'd like to see. :unsure:
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You're correct. I'm talking about the trip ups. The upright arm tackles definitely don't work against Hurd but since he's so tall (go ahead and make the jokes) and runs sorta upright, he gets tripped up by arm tackles. I understand it happens to every RB and it's not easy to correct but some are better at keeping their balance or pads lower.
 
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I'm just ecstatic this topic can even be debated. It's been a decade since we've had any semblance of a 'stable' in the backfield. Since the late 90s, we've just been hoping we could find ONE good RB, much less two. Some have recently made the comparison to the Lewis, Henry, and Stephens stable. I think that is a fair comparison if 3rd RB were to emerge a bit more (rumors that Kelly is legit).
 
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