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I think it’s pretty questionable to go with a Pruitt over Leach. But. Our last three HCs had “HC experience” and look how they turned out. Yes neither really were as good HCs as Leach is now although Butchs record was pretty decent. But still. They had HC experience. The one before those three, no HC experience and he did pretty well. So maybe that’s not as a crucial requirement as some think.

Also, look at the coaches in the playoff. 3\4 no HC experience before being hired. Just saying. Pruitt isn’t an exciting hire, but he may well be the right one. If it is him, all we can do is back it and hope Fulmer knows what he is doing.
 
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I will definitely support Pruitt. I will just be glad its not Greg ****ing Schiano or Kevin ****ing Steele. But its still negligence to not interview Mike Leach.
 
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Hiring coordinators hoping they’ll work out long term is not the best scenario for UT Football.

They don’t end up working out, guess what? We’re going through a Coaching Search Part 2 having the exact same discussion again.

There’s proven HCs out there that Fulmer probably hasn’t even contacted which is truly insane to think about.

Steele? Pruitt? Tucker? None of these candidates should have been this high on our list to begin with.

Most of these candidates would be like 9th or 10th on the list of other big time programs.

I hope I’m wrong but most of us have already read this book once resulting in the same ending.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Hiring coordinators hoping they’ll work out long term is not the best scenario for UT Football.

They don’t end up working out, guess what? We’re going through a Coaching Search Part 2 having the exact same discussion again.

There’s proven HCs out there that Fulmer probably hasn’t even contacted which is truly insane to think about.

Steele? Pruitt? Tucker? None of these candidates should have been this high on our list to begin with.

Most of these candidates would be like 9th or 10th on the list of other big time programs.

I hope I’m wrong but most of us have already read this book once resulting in the same ending.
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We blew way past the "best case scenario" territory 3 weeks ago
 
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Currie and Leach are friends. Leach wanted to work for Currie. Since Currie is gone Leach no longer has a good reason to come to UT.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Hiring coordinators hoping they’ll work out long term is not the best scenario for UT Football.

They don’t end up working out, guess what? We’re going through a Coaching Search Part 2 having the exact same discussion again.

There’s proven HCs out there that Fulmer probably hasn’t even contacted which is truly insane to think about.

Steele? Pruitt? Tucker? None of these candidates should have been this high on our list to begin with.

Most of these candidates would be like 9th or 10th on the list of other big time programs.

I hope I’m wrong but most of us have already read this book once resulting in the same ending.
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Currie fumbled the ball on our own 5 yard line and the other team scored. This post is the equivalent of you saying our defense is garbage for giving up that TD. Currie put the university in a horrible position and these are the results. End of the day Currie is gone, Haslam is losing influence, and we don’t have Greg effing Schiano as head coach.
 
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I can't be the only one that thinks it's too early to call on Kirby? He walked into a loaded roster (21 SRs?). The worst east in history (UF and UT historically bad). On top of that he split his west games 1-1. He won the one that mattered in what was basically a home game, got thumped in the the true road game. On top of that he never played Bama. Not quite ready to anoint him yet.
 
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Also, I can't believe Phil isn't on speaking terms with Jimmy. They're part of the same cabal no? Its also gotta be pretty agreeable that Phil got his revenge right? I'm probably the only poster that thinks we should've left Fulmer in a assistant capacity. Hope I'm wrong, just reads like Dooley 3.0.
 
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WestTnHawk said:
I can't be the only one that thinks it's too early to call on Kirby? He walked into a loaded roster (21 SRs?). The worst east in history (UF and UT historically bad). On top of that he split his west games 1-1. He won the one that mattered in what was basically a home game, got thumped in the the true road game. On top of that he never played Bama. Not quite ready to anoint him yet.
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You see what he can do with loaded talent and he's doing nothing but better than what he walked into regards to recruiting. Writings on the wall but that's just me. And he's developing his tale t better than UT or UF has in 6 years.
 
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That's not saying much. Which brings me to my next point, IF we hired a winner we wouldn't have to wait 4 years to be competitive. Kiffin would probably beat UGA next year (Florida too). I'd have to say with the talent we have Leach could make something happen! We will never know though...
 
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WestTnHawk said:
That's not saying much. Which brings me to my next point, IF we hired a winner we wouldn't have to wait 4 years to be competitive. Kiffin would probably beat UGA next year (Florida too). I'd have to say with the talent we have Leach could make something happen! We will never know though...
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I agree about Kiffin, but, he's got a screw loose somewhere that rattles around from time to time. Not to mention, he let Layla get away. There would always be the question about his judgement.
 
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We really dunno how this is going to play out. The below considers Saban's tenure at Bama only and coordinators that have become HC after being coordinators under Saban.

As far as Defensive Coordinators, only Coach Smart has gone on to become a head coach after tutelage under Saban. Smart is 20-6 in 2 seasons and could play for the NC this year.

Now, as far as Offensive Coordinators, we have much more data. There's Major Applewhite (7-6, Houston), Jim McElwain (44-29, Colorado State, Florida), and Lane Kiffin (10-3, FAU).

Obviously you can't really draw any type of statistical conclusion based on this info, but I believe I'd rather get a former Bama DC (not named Kevin Steele) than any former OC (unless Kiffin is on the table - and he's not).
 
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UTK said:
I think it’s pretty questionable to go with a Pruitt over Leach. But. Our last three HCs had “HC experience” and look how they turned out. Yes neither really were as good HCs as Leach is now although Butchs record was pretty decent. But still. They had HC experience. The one before those three, no HC experience and he did pretty well. So maybe that’s not as a crucial requirement as some think.

Also, look at the coaches in the playoff. 3\4 no HC experience before being hired. Just saying. Pruitt isn’t an exciting hire, but he may well be the right one. If it is him, all we can do is back it and hope Fulmer knows what he is doing.
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We dont need a splash hire; we need a workhorse hire. Blue collar take the work and run with it...
 
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Munarb said:
I will definitely support Pruitt. I will just be glad its not Greg ****ing Schiano or Kevin ****ing Steele. But its still negligence to not interview Mike Leach.
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I agree 100%........
 
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WestTnHawk said:
That's not saying much. Which brings me to my next point, IF we hired a winner we wouldn't have to wait 4 years to be competitive. Kiffin would probably beat UGA next year (Florida too). I'd have to say with the talent we have Leach could make something happen! We will never know though...
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No Kiffin wouldnt beat UGA with our team right now.
 
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Munarb said:
I will definitely support Pruitt. I will just be glad its not Greg ****ing Schiano or Kevin ****ing Steele. But its still negligence to not interview Mike Leach.
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Im sure an interview with that nutcase would get him the job. Maybe he would tell Davenport about all his fat little girlfriends. There is a reason no serious football program even considers Leach. Did FSU, A&M, Neb, or UF even glance his way? Hell even Arkansas and Miss St didn't. I think hes a good coach but he will never win big time and he belongs at a program that keeps him out of the news and off the front page. JMO
 
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08Vol said:
Currie and Leach are friends. Leach wanted to work for Currie. Since Currie is gone Leach no longer has a good reason to come to UT.
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Then that is enough to tell me we not want leach. Besides his defense is lacking and would get killed in the SEC
 
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UTK said:
I think it’s pretty questionable to go with a Pruitt over Leach. But. Our last three HCs had “HC experience” and look how they turned out. Yes neither really were as good HCs as Leach is now although Butchs record was pretty decent. But still. They had HC experience. The one before those three, no HC experience and he did pretty well. So maybe that’s not as a crucial requirement as some think.

Also, look at the coaches in the playoff. 3\4 no HC experience before being hired. Just saying. Pruitt isn’t an exciting hire, but he may well be the right one. If it is him, all we can do is back it and hope Fulmer knows what he is doing.
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I don't suppose it would help to confuse facts with issues.
Low had a great tweet today that 3 of the 4 teams in the CFP are coached by guys who didn't have any previous head coaching experience when they got the job. And the last 40 hires in the SEC.......only 5 were sitting head Coaches at a Power 5 School.
DEFENSE wins championships........AT ANY LEVEL. Hoppers through the NFL..
A DC is exactly what UT needs followed by a Strength Coach. If you are controlling the line of scrimmage, the rest will take care of itself.
Leach..............give me a break!! :crazy:
 
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WestTnHawk said:
That's not saying much. Which brings me to my next point, IF we hired a winner we wouldn't have to wait 4 years to be competitive. Kiffin would probably beat UGA next year (Florida too). I'd have to say with the talent we have Leach could make something happen! We will never know though...
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...and that is a good thing. :good!:
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
There’s proven HCs out there that Fulmer probably hasn’t even contacted which is truly insane to think about.

Steele? Pruitt? Tucker? None of these candidates should have been this high on our list to begin with.

Most of these candidates would be like 9th or 10th on the list of other big time programs.

I hope I’m wrong but most of us have already read this book once resulting in the same ending.
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For starters...
- Probably is the operative word in your post. Like me, none of us really have any idea who he has or has not actually contacted.
- Next yes these are the 9th and 10th candidates at other places but we have exhausted our list over the last few weeks. Unfortunately we settled for Schiano early which, no matter who is leading the charge to hire, royally screwed this search.
-For my opinion now...I am good with Pruitt or Tucker as HC and would love to see Martin or Lindsay as OC. Hoping some combo of that works out. I like many don't want Steele but if he is the man...I will support him. Don't think he will be Dooley bad, and could be Jones mediocre, but maybe we get lucky. Maybe we do it with people who actually want this program to be where it should be and understand how to get it there.

Ultimately IF we are back here in 3-4 years then hopefully we have the financial and institutional capital to actually make that big splash hire. (There are too many character issues with Kiffin and Leach at this point though they are amazing coaches.)
 
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