Just a QB away from a completely different situation.

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lifeVol said:
Agree, the question is why hasn't it happened yet ?
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That’s it. His inability to recognize that QBs either have (or don’t have) the intangibles necessary to be successful is an indictment on his intelligence. I think Pruitt was genuinely surprised when Jg played poorly earlier in the year. But why? None of us were surprised b this was the same qb that was playing when we lost to ga state. JG has never had a single great game amd he’s played in like 80 here.
 
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lifeVol said:
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I think it’s because JP is a defensive guy. He has no eye for QBs. Notice that Saban didn’t start landing elite QBs until Lane, then Sark was leading that part of recruiting. If you recall in 2010 Gene Chizik, a defensive guy, didn’t want Cam Newton (nor did a lot of teams), it was then OC Gus Malzahn who pushed to bring in Newton.
The question is does anyone on Pruitt’s staff have that eye?
 
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chattavol420 said:
That’s it. His inability to recognize that QBs either have (or don’t have) the intangibles necessary to be successful is an indictment on his intelligence. I think Pruitt was genuinely surprised when Jg played poorly earlier in the year. But why? None of us were surprised b this was the same qb that was playing when we lost to ga state. JG has never had a single great game amd he’s played in like 80 here.
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Dude is not a HC. Has real issues with leadership skills and lacks “big picture “ perspective. Seems to react personally with emotion being the primary motivation. I don’t see a fix for these issues in the short term.
 
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Salty Dog said:
I think it’s because JP is a defensive guy. He has no eye for QBs. Notice that Saban didn’t start landing elite QBs until Lane, then Sark was leading that part of recruiting. If you recall in 2010 Gene Chizik, a defensive guy, didn’t want Cam Newton (nor did a lot of teams), it was then OC Gus Malzahn who pushed to bring in Newton.
The question is does anyone on Pruitt’s staff have that eye?
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Or does Pruitt let them use their eye? Chaney knows good QB play. We pay him $1.5M and I don’t think Pruitt lets him make decisions.
 
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Salty Dog said:
No need in piling on JG, he is what he is. It’s a recruiting, then a development issue. JP needs to not sleep until he finds an elite HS, JUCO, or a transfer portal QB for the 2021 season. I don’t think he’ll survive next season without one.
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Its year 3, its not rocket surgery. If he hasn't figured things out by now then he's never going to. Time for JP to head back to Alabama so we can hire another lame duck coach
 
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Salty Dog said:
No need in piling on JG, he is what he is. It’s a recruiting, then a development issue. JP needs to not sleep until he finds an elite HS, JUCO, or a transfer portal QB for the 2021 season. I don’t think he’ll survive next season without one.
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I will also add a TE, ILB, S, and a bruising RB. QB is not our only weakness this year. We likely have one or two of those already on the team in our 2020 Freshman class, and the rest are committed in the 2021 ln the class. Need more depth and a QB coach.
 
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Salty Dog said:
No need in piling on JG, he is what he is. It’s a recruiting, then a development issue. JP needs to not sleep until he finds an elite HS, JUCO, or a transfer portal QB for the 2021 season. I don’t think he’ll survive next season without one.
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JG limit's us, but he's far from the main/only problem. There's also a culture/coaching problem that changing a qb won't and can't fix. As much as UT fans don't want more change, I think it's necessary. We've seen this movie before and know how it ends. Don't need to stick around for the credits. Time to change the channel.
 
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Salty Dog said:
No need in piling on JG, he is what he is. It’s a recruiting, then a development issue. JP needs to not sleep until he finds an elite HS, JUCO, or a transfer portal QB for the 2021 season. I don’t think he’ll survive next season without one.
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I disagree that it’s a recruiting issue. The qbs we have are definitely talented enough to play in the SEC if properly invested in. I think if Pruitt goes and gets a transfer UT loses at least two qbs because it sends a message that he doesn’t believe in them before ever giving them a chance to develop and get COMFORTABLE in their role.

This is a guy that it has become painfully obvious mismanaged the qbs for the last three years. If it’s that obvious to us, think of how glaring it is to them being there and LIVING it. Especially when 1 of those qbs has already proven he CAN play in this league if given the time and opportunity to clean up his mistakes.
 
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Bailey did not get a spring practice and not much of a fall camp. Once the season starts, most reps go to the starter. We're 6 games into the season and he will eventually be the starting QB. But it's not a simple transition. Peyton didn't start until midway through his freshman year, and that was only because Colquitt was hurt and Helton wanted to focus on baseball. Yes, he has had the play book for a while now, but you can't learn to ride a bicycle by reading about it.

As far as the staff not having another QB ready, QBs are recruited way in advance. There were no highly rated QBs available when Pruitt took over. Maurer and Shrout were projects, and they have both had their moments, but are not the ultimate answer. So the staff has been relegated to playing JG, who has talent but decision making in critical situations is lacking. The "leap" on Saturday which had no chance of making a first down 9 yards away which resulted in a concussion is just the latest example. Love his heart, but QB requires not panicking as well.

Problem is, when JG (or any QB) starts imploding, it effects the whole team. Football is an emotional game. Our OL can be devastating in the run game against a standard defense, but when they begin to stack the box and dare us to throw, there must be another solution. We don't have a consistent enough passing game to get them out of it. The drained emotion then carries over to the defense. Once things start going bad, it snowballs.

Vols are improved everywhere except QB. When Bailey or Salter get up to speed, this will be a different team. Pruitt has upgraded the talent almost everywhere. Get behind him.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Unless you believe that other position groups are not playing to their potential because they know we don't have the right QB, there is a lot more wrong with this team than one position.
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I don’t disagree. However, a dynamic QB can help you win while you shore up other areas of the team.
 
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Mightyvol said:
Dude is not a HC. Has real issues with leadership skills and lacks “big picture “ perspective. Seems to react personally with emotion being the primary motivation. I don’t see a fix for these issues in the short term.
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Exactly. Every coaching failure is not the same. This one is so substantial and so ingrained that there's not time to fix him on the job. Leadership is exactly the kind of thing that should be a qualification to get a head coaching job, not something you try to pick up after you get one.
 
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lifeVol said:
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QB recruiting is always ahead. For example this season we are recruiting our 2022 qb. So it’s hard to blame him too much for BM or JS being subpar and his last qb was 5 stars. Salter is a high 4 star.

I think he’s addressing the issue but qb recruiting takes a big longer than other positions because it’s a year ahead of other positions in terms of when they commit.

With all that said, we should’ve been all over transfer qbs last year and if he can’t find serviceable qb play next season, I’ll happily turn on him
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Unless you believe that other position groups are not playing to their potential because they know we don't have the right QB, there is a lot more wrong with this team than one position.
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I do think that is a strong possibility.
Why give everything you have just to watch that pass/fumble turned around and turned into 6 the other way?
Or why even bother taking helmet off for a chance to review with coaches bc you're right back on the field?

There is way more wrong that QB tho.
And the QB issues stwm.from the root issue
 
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I refuse to believe that the QBs on the roster are that bad.

Shane matthews was 5th string. Spurrier arrived at Florida and he was SEC player of the year.....twice.

Jeff Driskel was run out of Florida. He’s still on an NFL roster.

Feliepe Franks was mocked for how bad he was, now he’s the guy that makes Arkansas’ offense go.

Look at Joe Burrow in 2018 and then in 2019.

I don’t know what the ceiling is for the QBs on Tennessee’s roster. I just know it’s so bad that it can’t possibly be just the QBs. The coaching staff is failing them. There is no reason they should have a game where through 3+ quarters, they are 5-12 passing for 42 yards.

We even know that JG is capable of more than that because we’ve seen him perform better than that.

When it’s this bad, it’s all coaching. Don’t be surprised if Bailey doesn’t look any good either.
 
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The RB depth is also pretty terrible. No tight ends. As far as recruiting rankings go, we have an absurdly talented OL struggling to play mediocre. Bad DBs. Mostly bad LBs. Punter is still subpar.

There’s a lot more than just a QB that needs to be fixed.
 
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