‘23 JUCO DL Elijah Davis
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The portal we just now got spots for? I think it’s pretty well known the staff would like multiple guys on the defensive side of the ball and either hasn’t had spots or simply missed on guys we wanted.
Progression/development only goes so far. You’re not going to make 22-23 year old safeties much faster than they were a year ago. And the previous staff signed about as many corners as Dooley signed offensive linemen.
The defensive roster is not good. Our defensive line is probably the best unit on the d, and it’s probably middle of the pack at best.
Progression/development only goes so far. You’re not going to make 22-23 year old safeties much faster than they were a year ago. And the previous staff signed about as many corners as Dooley signed offensive linemen.
The defensive roster is not good. Our defensive line is probably the best unit on the d, and it’s probably middle of the pack at best.
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I hope you’re right. VQ seemed high on him. Hopefully Mitchell becomes what he’s capable of too. Would be nice to finally have those two spots locked down.
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He started. He made a lot of tackles. But he did so while playing at a below average level for an SEC LB.
Both of Vandies starting LBs graded out higher than him according to PFF and he had the 26th best LB grade in the SEC. That’s not very good. Overall grade of 57.3
That’s 26th out of only 39 LBs who met the snap minimum for inclusion. Our other two who met the minimum were Page, 33/39 and Beasley 36/39.
That easily grades out as the worst group of LBs in the SEC
Both of Vandies starting LBs graded out higher than him according to PFF and he had the 26th best LB grade in the SEC. That’s not very good. Overall grade of 57.3
That’s 26th out of only 39 LBs who met the snap minimum for inclusion. Our other two who met the minimum were Page, 33/39 and Beasley 36/39.
That easily grades out as the worst group of LBs in the SEC
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We don't have the talent at LB. It's weak there. We really need a great recruiting class at DB and LB.
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I don't know if PFF is the greatest source to use for this argument. They have some questionable rankings.
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Banks would start for several SEC teams but needs more help. Beasley needs to be depth, not a starter. Willis is just a Soph. I think you're being premature. Not sure about safety being "terrible". You have two gray hairs that have played well many times. Charles and McDonald both looked very good at times.
A lot of things today depend on CB's being able to hold up in man. Teams picked on whoever was opposite Taylor last year.
A lot of things today depend on CB's being able to hold up in man. Teams picked on whoever was opposite Taylor last year.
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Agree but there's a good chance the Vols aren't done in the portal.
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Played well many times? By that you mean “they’ve had a couple of decent games”? Our safeties are bad and very slow.
Idk how I am being premature. I’ve seen plenty from our safeties and LBs. They’re not very good. Mitchell and a younger player may be able to fix that (Willis or Herring maybe?).
Maybe Charles can replace one of our safeties and the other will magically become faster.
Maybe 2 corners will develop into solid starters we can rely on.
That’s a whole lot of maybes on one side of the ball and if you’re counting on all those things happening, the odds aren’t in your favor. We need multiple transfers on defense.
Idk how I am being premature. I’ve seen plenty from our safeties and LBs. They’re not very good. Mitchell and a younger player may be able to fix that (Willis or Herring maybe?).
Maybe Charles can replace one of our safeties and the other will magically become faster.
Maybe 2 corners will develop into solid starters we can rely on.
That’s a whole lot of maybes on one side of the ball and if you’re counting on all those things happening, the odds aren’t in your favor. We need multiple transfers on defense.
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We shouldn’t confuse production in the form of tackles as a good season. Someone has to make the tackle unless the carrier runs out of bounds. Tackles 5 yards down the field aren’t a great measure of a “good” or “productive” season
Edit: I will add that I think he’s a good blitzing lb. He’s just not great in pass coverage
Edit: I will add that I think he’s a good blitzing lb. He’s just not great in pass coverage
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Banks played much better as the season progressed. Still he’s mediocre at best imo. Really terrified to see our defense if we don’t add some talent everywhere.
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Yeah. You're being premature and more critical than reasonable at this point. No. I don't mean a couple of decent games. I meant what I said. There were breakdowns at almost every spot on D at times last year that were costly. How many times did games come down to opposing QB's being able to break the pocket and make yardage? That's not because the Safeties didn't have good coverage. In good measure, it was because safeties had to help the CB's leaving no one to react. The safeties had issues at times too.
Generally you can tell how coaches feel about a position group by how much focus they put on getting immediate help from the portal or incoming class. We'll know soon if they share your concerns.
Generally you can tell how coaches feel about a position group by how much focus they put on getting immediate help from the portal or incoming class. We'll know soon if they share your concerns.
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Here’s a crazy thought though: last year, with just months after a dumpster fire, these coaches developed and made a team much tougher than many of us expected. This was also on defense where names like Matthew Butler and Theo Jackson came out of nowhere to do great things.
Let’s see what they can do with some of these younger guys with a whole extra year under their belts. I think many will be surprised.
Let’s see what they can do with some of these younger guys with a whole extra year under their belts. I think many will be surprised.
Yeah. The SEC's second most productive tackler sucks... right? Come on guy. You're trying WAY too hard.
Interesting stat regarding your apparent claim that he didn't play well against better competition... he was #1 in the SEC vs teams with a winning record at over 13 tackles per game. His main problem is that he needs to be able to play free. He can't do that without the other LB helping more.
Interesting stat regarding your apparent claim that he didn't play well against better competition... he was #1 in the SEC vs teams with a winning record at over 13 tackles per game. His main problem is that he needs to be able to play free. He can't do that without the other LB helping more.
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