Jordan gainey 5th yr??

#51
#51
I respectfully disagree. One has to make choices in life. I just don’t think a 25-30 year old should be playing intercollegiate sports against 18-19 year olds. Why is there an age limit on high school and middle school sports if age doesn’t matter. Im working on my GED at age 21 and want to play on my local HS team?
Go ahead and choose baseball, military, or go on a mission. If you go back to school later that is a choice you made
 
#52
#52
I respectfully disagree. One has to make choices in life. I just don’t think a 25-30 year old should be playing intercollegiate sports against 18-19 year olds. Why is there an age limit on high school and middle school sports if age doesn’t matter. Im working on my GED at age 21 and want to play on my local HS team?
Go ahead and choose baseball, military, or go on a mission. If you go back to school later that is a choice you made
You do realize there are people that are in their 60’s+ in college right now? If you are enrolled in the college and have never been in college prior then you are afforded the opportunity to try out for athletics. It would be illegal to deprive a student that opportunity. High schools have minors for the majority and it would be unrealistic to have a bunch of grown adults trying to compete in sports with them. It’s not a fair fight if you have a 21 year old playing against a 14 year old, physically, emotionally, and intellectually. You are comparing apples to oranges. If you don’t see the difference between high school and college then that’s on you.
 
#53
#53
You do realize there are people that are in their 60’s+ in college right now? If you are enrolled in the college and have never been in college prior then you are afforded the opportunity to try out for athletics. It would be illegal to deprive a student that opportunity. High schools have minors for the majority and it would be unrealistic to have a bunch of grown adults trying to compete in sports with them. It’s not a fair fight if you have a 21 year old playing against a 14 year old, physically, emotionally, and intellectually. You are comparing apples to oranges. If you don’t see the difference between high school and college then that’s on you.
I don’t think a 19 year old should be asked to compete against a 28-30 year old in major sports. That’s a teenager against a fully grown adult. Same situation as your HS scenario. If your 60 year old is on the bowling, swimming or track team. ,I’m ok with non contact individual competition. Hey, it is on me just as it is on you. My OPINION
 
#54
#54
I respectfully disagree. One has to make choices in life. I just don’t think a 25-30 year old should be playing intercollegiate sports against 18-19 year olds. Why is there an age limit on high school and middle school sports if age doesn’t matter. Im working on my GED at age 21 and want to play on my local HS team?
Go ahead and choose baseball, military, or go on a mission. If you go back to school later that is a choice you made
Ageist.
 
#61
#61
This is not going to be what we want. After the 5th year, you’re going to have guys sue to play forever and they’re going to allow it.
The 5th has some basis, not saying you’re wrong but there’s some basis…5 years to play 4 had been the standard, just allowed a redshirt or potential waiver before. Average student athlete takes 5 years to get their degrees now also taking standard suggested work load. Anything more than 5 in the past has generally required special waivers etc. The last 4 classes got 5 years because the COVID years didn’t count.

I’m sure there will be someone try for a 6th or more etc, but there’s not nearly a basis or precedent for those like there has been a 5th.
 
#65
#65
This is not going to be what we want. After the 5th year, you’re going to have guys sue to play forever and they’re going to allow it.
If they allowed it would really hurt H.S. guys coming in and their chances of making NIL money. If the extra year was to pass then that precedent would open the door for pretty much unlimited college years. I'm sure the NCAA will do everything they can to not allow it.
 
#66
#66
This won't be it. You need a judge to do something that the judge in North Carolina didn't.
i.e Grant an injunction for a non-JUCO player.
If not, just got to hope they are able to get the 5th year in bargains with the NCAA.
I didn’t say this would be it, I said it may be a step…the NCAA has been denying every waiver for 5th years, whether medical or hardship or whatever else, they aren’t wanting it to happen, since Pavia the courts have backed the NCAA and have been denying any requests, but this one being approved is the first since Pavia. It suggests that the courts might approve more of these which the NCAA doesn’t want, so the thought is that it may push them to just go ahead and pass the 5th year thing sooner rather than later instead of trying to continue to go to court for every one of these lawsuits that will be coming like this one.
 
#67
#67
If they allowed it would really hurt H.S. guys coming in and their chances of making NIL money. If the extra year was to pass then that precedent would open the door for pretty much unlimited college years. I'm sure the NCAA will do everything they can to not allow it.
If the limit goes to 15 at the same time there’s not really much of any impact on HS
 
#68
#68
I didn’t say this would be it, I said it may be a step…the NCAA has been denying every waiver for 5th years, whether medical or hardship or whatever else, they aren’t wanting it to happen, since Pavia the courts have backed the NCAA and have been denying any requests, but this one being approved is the first since Pavia. It suggests that the courts might approve more of these which the NCAA doesn’t want, so the thought is that it may push them to just go ahead and pass the 5th year thing sooner rather than later instead of trying to continue to go to court for every one of these lawsuits that will be coming like this one.
I didn't necessarily say you said it would be it.
I was just saying if it was to happen this precedent won't be the reason.
 
#69
#69
I didn't necessarily say you said it would be it.
I was just saying if it was to happen this precedent won't be the reason.
It’s all a step towards the end, likely there won’t be just a singular moment…as I said each of these lawsuits is something the NCAA doesn’t want, and each loss makes it even worse.
 
#70
#70
If the limit goes to 15 at the same time there’s not really much of any impact on HS
There would be impact because you'd have freshman having to compete with guys that have played 5+ years and like I said maybe even more.
Freshman would get even less of a chance than they get now to develop/make significant NIL money.
BTW, this isn't me just coming up with this, it's been one of the major criticisms of players getting addional years.
 
#73
#73
It’s all a step towards the end, likely there won’t be just a singular moment…as I said each of these lawsuits is something the NCAA doesn’t want, and each loss makes it even worse.
To win in court they need some precedent, tho.
Like I said, if not they will need to bargain their way to it in a settlement with NCAA.
Which IMO, is the best hope for players wanting another year.
 
#74
#74
The argument is would hurt their development in respect to the time a normal person goes to college. Not everyone plans on staying in college to old age.
College sports would basically be turned into another proven league overnight.
I think more people are in college for 5 years than you are realizing
 
#75
#75
To win in court they need some precedent, tho.
Like I said, if not they will need to bargain their way to it in a settlement with NCAA
There wasn’t a precedent for Pavia, until there was, now there’s another with less in his favor than Pavia, opens the door for the next suit with even less
 

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