thegasman54
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Name someone who owned Bama. Fulmer comes to mind. Not many others, and for that, no real shame.
Hey, I always here folks talking about Johnny having a drink. I was around the man for 4 years - saw him every day at Gibbs Hall. There is a difference in having a drink every now and then and being a "lush". On a certain day of the week, around a certain group of friends, I could be accused of partaking in an amount of "social and conversational lubrication" called alcohol. I think these stories about him are exaggerated.
(now there was that one coaches show after the Notre Dame victory that was historic.. you could say he had been drinking, but you could also say it was a man with a little personality taking an opportunity to enjoy the win).
Felt the same way as you do till the day he told me to go to Hell because of the way I felt about Schiano
Funny to think about how totally different things were back them.
1. Patience no longer exists, today it is win now or lose your job.
Mediocre to good HC at UT. Didn't like him as a coach, his Sunday morning shows sucked.
Dumped on CPF when he was fired for performance/insubordinate behavior (due to heart ailment)
Continued to be a jerk to the program during CPF's tenure
Recent moronic comments about the fans.
Plus, I just have never warmed up to him.....don't like him. I respect him for his time here the same way I do all of our coaches (with the possible exception of Kiffy) but I simply don't care for the man. All of my drunk stories are second hand but from those I trust with my life and have no reason to lie (they liked him).
I also don't like CPF as a person. My personal experience with him away from the camera he was a DICK! I respect him but think him a politician just like everyone else with that amount of power.
These are my stones, let them fall where they may.
The problem is many of the "wet behind the ears generation" are not smart enough to listen to experience.
The difference between Johnny's treatment and Bill Battle's wasn't the times. Johnny had a long leash, for good reasons. He had just won a national championship, and he was in his prime. He had played for UT when Neyland was still working. Who is available (ever) to replace that?
Mediocre to good HC at UT. Didn't like him as a coach, his Sunday morning shows sucked.
Dumped on CPF when he was fired for performance/insubordinate behavior (due to heart ailment)
Continued to be a jerk to the program during CPF's tenure
Recent moronic comments about the fans.
Plus, I just have never warmed up to him.....don't like him. I respect him for his time here the same way I do all of our coaches (with the possible exception of Kiffy) but I simply don't care for the man. All of my drunk stories are second hand but from those I trust with my life and have no reason to lie (they liked him).
I also don't like CPF as a person. My personal experience with him away from the camera he was a DICK! I respect him but think him a politician just like everyone else with that amount of power.
These are my stones, let them fall where they may.
Well, most fans were aware of Johnny's politics, and knew full well he would say something like that before he said it. And it's no big deal, unless of course you are a complete twit.
My personal experiences with CPF are 180 degrees from yours. He was one of the most down to earth coaches I have ever been around. The only one slightly better was Coach Battle.
Agree. Majors was given a very long leash as a returning favorite son, and he should have been. No way any other coach wouldve survived a losing season in year 4 like Johnny did, especially not in todays game....as well as all the up and down seasons until the late 80s. Obviously, all the patience eventually paid off.