Joey's Court Date Set for Feb 10

#33
#33
Sadly I think the NCAA’s counsel has been preparing arguments in this case for the past year or so.

I hope against hope they just grant all the plaintiffs a waiver.
 
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camp_steveo said:
But, you could say that the effect of the injunction last season was to grant the 4th year, post juco.
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I’m no lawyer, but an injunction is for 1 specific case (Pavia’s), not every case that has the same issue. Each suit has to have their specific injunction, or ruling whichever the judge decides.
 
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Volanta said:
Exactly. I don’t know why this is hard.
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It's hard because neither Aguilar or Pavia were granted another year to play. They were given an injunction to keep them from being denied the ability to play while the case was in process.
No ruling has been made whether or not to separate juco from fbs level.

It's the equivalent to kids acting up not listening to mom, she says just you wait until dad gets home and the kids continuing to do what they're doing until then
 
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appvol said:
I don’t see how Juco counts towards NCAA eligibility honestly. The NJCAA isn’t associated at all with the NCAA. You can go to a prep school and it doesn’t affect your 4 year of eligibility in the NCAA.
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Pavia has played 4 years in the NCAA system where as Aguilar has only played 3 years. I could see Pavia losing his case but Aguilar winning his to have 4 years.
 
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appvol said:
I don’t see how Juco counts towards NCAA eligibility honestly. The NJCAA isn’t associated at all with the NCAA. You can go to a prep school and it doesn’t affect your 4 year of eligibility in the NCAA.
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This is the argument the Pavia/Aguliar attorneys have to make convincingly. The NCAA is going to to claim everyone knew the rules when they went to JUCO and knew they would run out of eligibility. It’s going to boil down to which side’s argument is more convincing. From my perspective this is just another in the long list of L’s the NCAA should take in the courtroom, but my biggest concern is the judge saying he doesn’t have the authority to make a ruling due it’s now nationwide implications following a) all the add ons from other regions of the country to this lawsuit and b) recent Supreme Court rulings to curb district judicial authority on nation-wide issues. The judge could simply deny the request on those grounds and let the plaintiffs appeal to the Appelate Court, which could, in essence, serve as a ban for Joey since its unlikely an appeal would be heard by Sept. In this scenario, he could win the case down the road but never play again because he would be out of eligibility on the years equation. That’s why Pavia declared and isn’t planning to return to Vandy even though he’s probably not going to get drafted. There’s a good chance they win this case long term but also a good chance that win doesn’t happen on Feb 10.
 
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I appreciate what he’s done, but I hope he doesn’t get approved to play.

It’s time to move on and stop with the career college player.
 
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UT97Vol said:
This is the argument the Pavia/Aguliar attorneys have to make convincingly. The NCAA is going to to claim everyone knew the rules when they went to JUCO and knew they would run out of eligibility. It’s going to boil down to which side’s argument is more convincing. From my perspective this is just another in the long list of L’s the NCAA should take in the courtroom, but my biggest concern is the judge saying he doesn’t have the authority to make a ruling due it’s now nationwide implications following a) all the add ons from other regions of the country to this lawsuit and b) recent Supreme Court rulings to curb district judicial authority on nation-wide issues. The judge could simply deny the request on those grounds and let the plaintiffs appeal to the Appelate Court, which could, in essence, serve as a ban for Joey since its unlikely an appeal would be heard by Sept. In this scenario, he could win the case down the road but never play again because he would be out of eligibility on the years equation. That’s why Pavia declared and isn’t planning to return to Vandy even though he’s probably not going to get drafted. There’s a good chance they win this case long term but also a good chance that win doesn’t happen on Feb 10.
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Don’t actually like your post, but there is no thanks button.
 
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The court and ncaa allowed Pavia to play.This is a given.Therefore,they HAVE to let Joey Aguilar to play.If not,Joey has a perfect discrimination suit that they allowed Pavia,BUT,not Joey to play the season.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Since we have little chance of getting anything better than what we already have, I suppose Heupel has no other choice. He's gonna wait on Aguilar and pray for the best. Hey, that's what Spanky does. He's never proactive. Always reactive....after lunch....and a nap.
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You don’t know wtf Spanky does. You’re just talking out your ass like always
 
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