JJJ hurts us on offense and its apparent when he’s gone

[iKrager]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

 

[Kas232323]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

Here…..here is the troll trash that we get after a win against #1 Alabama. Congrats OP for showing up when all your fellow trolls are hiding. What a ridiculous post. Great job handpicking 2 games to ‘prove’ your point.
Wow just wow.
3J is one of our absolute best players and he totally improves our offense. And he’s one of the finest young men to ever wear the orange.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

He’s good at that midrange jumper. If he would accept that that’s his shot on offense, he’d be a much bigger help on that end. And when he’s hot from 3, he gives us that. When he’s off, he needs to accept that and stop shooting from 3.

 

[GBO18]

Forum runs better when you don’t post OP. GET BACK TO THE BENCH.

 

[scottchatt]

I don’t agree with you, but it doesn’t matter, still need him on the floor.

Look at Mashack from last night. Had ZERO points, but we don’t win without him locking down #24. That would have been JJJ if he wasn’t hurt.

Jo creates offense for other players at a high level, and when healthy is a huge scoring threat. One of the most important guys on the team….we’re going to need him in March.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Yawn. Back to the Football Forum you go.

 

[cncchris33]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

I really don't understand the idea of referring to him as a 5* four years later. It doesn't strengthen your point.

He's equally as good a defender as Mashack, infinitely more talented as an offensive player, and some here are ready to immortalize Mashack in bronze outside TBA.

JJJ is hurt. He's not been right all year. BUT, we don't beat Texas without him. We don't beat Auburn without him. He combined for 29 points and 21 rebounds in those games You failed to mention those two games sandwiched around the two games in which you chose to highlight his struggles.

 

[walkenvol]

 

[volmainia2]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

you are wrong he does alittle of everything he IS the glue guy its not all about how many points you score

 

[bleedingTNorange]

He combined for 29pts & 21rbds on about 45% shooting against Texas and Auburn in 2 very important wins…if you handpicked Santi, or ZZZ or Key’s bad games you could make a case too. We are at our best when JJJ is efficient, but that’s also the case for just about any player, suggesting we are better off without him is a borderline idiotic take.

 

[WillisWG]

interesting....without him we don't beat the Horns or the Barn. I'm willing to cut the guy a break because of his knee

 

[cardvolfan]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

If he hadn‘t gotten 15 points and 14 rebounds against Auburn, we lose that game, too.

 

[cardvolfan]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

Barnes would vehemently disagree with you. When he gets healthy, he’s playing. He’s not sitting on the bench.

 

[rdk4121]

He's second on the team with an offensive box score +/- of 3.6, which is only behind Santi. He has a 110 offensive rating which is pretty solid, though not in the top 5 for our team. Neither of which suggest our offense is better when he's not out there.

He's still one of our best defenders, and therefore one of our best players overall. Though at the same time, I think we might be better with him coming off the bench. I personally think we're better off with Aidoo starting at the 5 and ON at the 4, like last night. ON certainly does not need to be starting or really playing at 5. So one of Julian or Jo needs to be coming off the bench imo, and I think Jo would be the answer. Mashack has certainly earned minutes as well, so Jo taking all of the backup 4 minutes and some minutes at the 3 would be ideal.

 

[JoeMiltonsAgent]

Don't know that I would single out James but the shorter rotation seemed to have the guys in a slightly better flow offensively last night.

If we are gonna single someone out,, I think ZZ needs to be more selective with the 3 pointer. That's just not his game IMO. Drive to the basket or dish and set the other guys up usually works better.

Last 6 games he is

3-9
1-3
1-6
0-7
3-9
3-6.

Just beat the #1 team in the country last night so any real b**ching kind of rings hollow this morning though. Hope this gets them back on track for the home stretch into March Madness.

 

[Orangeblooded615]

Tell me you know nothing about basketball... we need Philips and JJJ to be consistent to make a run. Key and Scovi getting hot while ZZ doesn't turn the ball over and we can go all the way.

 

[VolGee4]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

When he came back into the lineup full time at the start of the year, our offensive efficiency numbers jumped 20+ spots. I think BTO knows how to look that up.

The efficiency numbers have fallen back a bit, but his 15 points against Auburn were critical. That's two games. I do wish he would drive it more, but his midrange game can become very important.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

He’s good at that midrange jumper. If he would accept that that’s his shot on offense, he’d be a much bigger help on that end. And when he’s hot from 3, he gives us that. When he’s off, he needs to accept that and stop shooting from 3.

What you just said is true for several players. Dominate what is working and you do well and don’t hurt team by forcing something

 

[iKrager]

Here…..here is the troll trash that we get after a win against #1 Alabama. Congrats OP for showing up when all your fellow trolls are hiding. What a ridiculous post. Great job handpicking 2 games to ‘prove’ your point.
Wow just wow.
3J is one of our absolute best players and he totally improves our offense. And he’s one of the finest young men to ever wear the orange.

?? I think you are confused. A forum is a place to discuss ideas and thoughts. I’ve watched every single game JJJ has ever played in. His defense is good, and his rebounding is good. He turns the ball over with his passing. He is an offensive liability and hurts us when we are in our scoring droughts. JJJ is wildy inconsistent to where he shouldn’t be getting offensive touches.
Not hating buddy, I call it as I see it. JJJ has been a fantastic “glue guy” but his injuries have degressed his offensive abilities.
I cherrypicked two games where he was bad, but just look at his effeciency and tell me he still helps us generate points.

 

[iKrager]

Don't know that I would single out James but the shorter rotation seemed to have the guys in a slightly better flow offensively last night.

If we are gonna single someone out,, I think ZZ needs to be more selective with the 3 pointer. That's just not his game IMO. Drive to the basket or dish and set the other guys up usually works better.

Last 6 games he is

3-9
1-3
1-6
0-7
3-9
3-6.

Just beat the #1 team in the country last night so any real b**ching kind of rings hollow this morning though. Hope this gets them back on track for the home stretch into March Madness.

ZZ shooting 31% from 3 this season and JJJ is shooting 30%.

 

[iKrager]

Forum runs better when you don’t post OP. GET BACK TO THE BENCH.

Its sad how fragile some of you are on the internet. I’m not hating on JJJ, but its true we struggle to score when he plays. Occasionally he will have a game where he makes 3 pts. His injuries have held him back.

 

[iKrager]

Yawn. Back to the Football Forum you go.

What? Ive been a regular on this forum for 10 years lol.

 

[WaywardVol]

Its true. He hucks up a lot of 3s and mid range shots. Can’t drive it to the rim. Great defender and “glue guy”. But JJJ is better when he’s on the bench.

Against Vanderbilt he had 28 minutes of play went 1-7, 2 pts, 5 brds and a steal. Not great minutes for our senior 5*.

Against Florida he had 29 minutes of play and went 2-11. Finishing with 4 pts, 7 rebounds and an assist.

We look better without him clogging our offense.

Agree. He’s a great defender and he has his moment’s offensively, but is a huge disappointment considering his time in the program. We had our biggest wins while he was out injured and offense looked much more fluid before he came back.

 

[VolGee4]

?? I think you are confused. A forum is a place to discuss ideas and thoughts. I’ve watched every single game JJJ has ever played in. His defense is good, and his rebounding is good. He turns the ball over with his passing. He is an offensive liability and hurts us when we are in our scoring droughts. JJJ is wildy inconsistent to where he shouldn’t be getting offensive touches.
Not hating buddy, I call it as I see it. JJJ has been a fantastic “glue guy” but his injuries have degressed his offensive abilities.
I cherrypicked two games where he was bad, but just look at his effeciency and tell me he still helps us generate points.

Take away those two games you listed, and I think the efficiency numbers would show that he is a net positive for us on offense. You just can’t use your eyes; you have to look at the analytics and compare when he is in versus when he is out. It may take some time, but I think someone can pull that. I just know that we jumped considerably on offense when he came back from his injury.

 

[GBO18]

Its sad how fragile some of you are on the internet. I’m not hating on JJJ, but its true we struggle to score when he plays. Occasionally he will have a game where he makes 3 pts. His injuries have held him back.

Not really. JJJ is about on par with everybody else on the team offensively.