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TD10EYEC

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How much will Drew Brees winning the Super Bowl affect CJC stock as a coach and a recruiter? Will all the top notch QB's take notice and want to play for him? Will it be about the same?
I'm a huge Manning fan and root for the colts no matter who they play and hated seeing him lose last night but let's face it we can't really use that card with recruits any more. I want to see Manning succeed as much as some of you all do but IMO by Brees and the Saints winning last night it helped our program a lot more than if Manning would have won it. So I'd like to hear what you guys think about all this. Thanks VN.

P.S. This is my first thread so take it easy on me, still learning.
 
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I would guess that the vast majority of recruits have no idea about that relationship and will be surprised when they hear it. Likely immaterial.

The transformation of Crompton is worth more to his resume.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I would guess that the vast majority of recruits have no idea about that relationship and will be surprised when they hear it. Likely immaterial.

The transformation of Crompton is worth more to his resume.
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I agree, good point! :good!:
 
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Brees has been in the league for about 8 years so I'm not sure it has any impact on JC's coaching. IMO it's like saying PM won the Super Bowl because of Cutcliffe
 
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The only viable way to recruit using ex-players is if you have the coach on the staff who coached them. So yes, I think using the CJC + Brees card would be smart. Its almost more viable an option than using the Peyton card. If Cut was still on staff, then saying you have the guy who coached up Peyton here is something. But just to say the guy played here is great and nostalgic but really shouldn't have any bearing on a recruit.
 
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Yeah I see what your saying. I would have to think that CDD and CJC would use the Brees winning the Super Bowl to there advantage ala. Coach Cut. Coaching both mannings and both of them winning Super Bowls.
 
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Manning will always be associated with UT. Chaney's role with Bree's will be made know to recruits. Lets just say there both good selling points for the program.
 
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I am sure he brings it up to the kids while recruiting. Not sure how much power it holds though.
 
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Vols N Shocks said:
The only viable way to recruit using ex-players is if you have the coach on the staff who coached them. So yes, I think using the CJC + Brees card would be smart. Its almost more viable an option than using the Peyton card. If Cut was still on staff, then saying you have the guy who coached up Peyton here is something. But just to say the guy played here is great and nostalgic but really shouldn't have any bearing on a recruit.
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I agree. That's basically what I was trying to say. Manning being successful is good for UT but Brees being successful is better for UT because CJC is a coach here. My thread might be a fail, is CJC coaching the QB's? I've seen he is our OC and RB's coach and seen OC and QB's coach, so which one is it? If he's not the Qb coach then my thread is a fail. If he's not then he needs to be.
 
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As a lot of you all have alluded to, Chaney's relationship with Brees will be talked about, but I highly doubt current recruits know that Brees learned from Chaney.

Peyton will always be linked with UT, but this Brees-Chaney thing can only help (with QB's).

I'm not too worried about it because I'd like to think UT is good for the next 4 years at QB.
 
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It's something that Chaney can throw out there, it's not something that people are going to do back flips over.

When Brees was at Purdue, these kids were in 3rd or 4th grade...just saying.
 
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utvolpj said:
Brees has been in the league for about 8 years so I'm not sure it has any impact on JC's coaching. IMO it's like saying PM won the Super Bowl because of Cutcliffe
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I think that it has even less weight than the Manning/Cutcliffe argument. I still haven't read conclusive evidence to suggest that Chaney developed Brees all that much....there was the recruitment/mentoring aspect, but coaching I'm not so sure.
 
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GATechVOL said:
As a lot of you all have alluded to, Chaney's relationship with Brees will be talked about, but I highly doubt current recruits know that Brees learned from Chaney.

Peyton will always be linked with UT, but this Brees-Chaney thing can only help (with QB's).

I'm not too worried about it because I'd like to think UT is good for the next 4 years at QB.
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I agree. If CJC can turn Crompton around in a year then imagine Bray,Nance and even Stevens. My only concern now is will CJC be a even more of a hot commodity than he already is? If so are we going to dish out the cash to keep him? He's wanted by the NFL and Collage so IMO its going to be tough to keep him around. I'd really like to see him stay for several more years and help get us back on track and develop our QB's. If he stays till Bray is gone I will be very surprised.
 
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TennTradition said:
I think that it has even less weight than the Manning/Cutcliffe argument. I still haven't read conclusive evidence to suggest that Chaney developed Brees all that much....there was the recruitment/mentoring aspect, but coaching I'm not so sure.
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Chaney turned Brees into a back-to-back Heisman Candidate (4th in 1999, 3rd in 2000), Maxwell Award Winner in 2000 and, if Brees was taller, would have been an easy mid-1st Rounder.


The difference, to me, is that both Mannings have cited Cutcliffe as a significant influence. Anyone know of any quotes from Brees vis a vis Chaney?
 
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TD10EYEC said:
I agree. If CJC can turn Crompton around in a year then imagine Bray,Nance and even Stevens. My only concern now is will CJC be a even more of a hot commodity than he already is? If so are we going to dish out the cash to keep him? He's wanted by the NFL and Collage so IMO its going to be tough to keep him around. I'd really like to see him stay for several more years and help get us back on track and develop our QB's. If he stays till Bray is gone I will be very surprised.
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Well i think Tenn should lock up Chaney and Thompson for some time. Giveing what happened with Kiffin and they stayed and was a great help in saveing this class of kids. They could have left for something else also. But they stayed. Says alot about their character.
 
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TD10EYEC said:
I agree. If CJC can turn Crompton around in a year then imagine Bray,Nance and even Stevens. My only concern now is will CJC be a even more of a hot commodity than he already is? If so are we going to dish out the cash to keep him? He's wanted by the NFL and Collage so IMO its going to be tough to keep him around. I'd really like to see him stay for several more years and help get us back on track and develop our QB's. If he stays till Bray is gone I will be very surprised.
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Same. I was shocked to hear Chaney stayed at UT. I love having the guy there. He's a great OC, and I'm really excited to see how he utilizes all of these weapons on offense.

This year could be fun (offensively) if the staff can figure out a good rotation and develop some depth on the offensive lines (along with a QB stepping up).

Hopefully Chaney isn't gone within a couple of years. SPEND THE CASH TO KEEP HIM!
 
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TennTradition said:
I think that it has even less weight than the Manning/Cutcliffe argument. I still haven't read conclusive evidence to suggest that Chaney developed Brees all that much....there was the recruitment/mentoring aspect, but coaching I'm not so sure.
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Question? I know its off subject and sorry but what does the stars underneath your avitar stand for? How do you get them?
 
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DC Vol said:
Chaney turned Brees into a back-to-back Heisman Candidate (4th in 1999, 3rd in 2000), Maxwell Award Winner in 2000 and, if Brees was taller, would have been an easy mid-1st Rounder.


The difference, to me, is that both Mannings have cited Cutcliffe as a significant influence. Anyone know of any quotes from Brees vis a vis Chaney?
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So, that was Chaney doing that and not his QB coach? I'm not denying it, I just wonder if we give Chaney more credit than he deserves for coaching Brees, just because he is 'our' guy.

I have no info to the contrary, I just don't have info actually confirming it. I can also believe someone on the last staff knew what they were doing with QBs after watching JC this year.
 
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TennTradition said:
So, that was Chaney doing that and not his QB coach? I'm not denying it, I just wonder if we give Chaney more credit than he deserves for coaching Brees, just because he is 'our' guy.

I have no info to the contrary, I just don't have info actually confirming it. I can also believe someone on the last staff knew what they were doing with QBs after watching JC this year.
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The Purdue QB Coach had about as much influence as David Reaves had with Crompton. Brees was ID'd as a "system QB" to an extent... outing Chaney as the reason for his collegiate success. Chaney built the system around/for Brees at Purdue so, yeah, I'd say that Chaney had a significant role in his success in College. How much that has affected him down the road in his NFL career? Only Brees really knows... and he rarely talks.
 
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