Jefferey Epstein found dead in jail cell

[NCFisher]

Definitely not a new fetish. I guess I have been naive in thinking it was abhorred in all modern cultures

You're right if we're defining 'modern' as Western or Western-adjacent. In Western society, the affluent sub-groups you termed them, still must be furtive to avoid punishment. In others, it's open and customary.

The West isn't for everyone.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Or the assassination attempt was faked to fool people into thinking Trump was legit. I was always thought it was suspicious he had that small cut by his ear. Actual assassins hit the mark completely or if they aren't pros they don't get anywhere close to the target. The close miss just looked staged to me.

In other words, pros have the accuracy kd Mahomes and non pros have the accuracy of Brad Kaaya...

 

[Vol8188]

Bondi is obviously incompetent but I'm not sure why she's being made into the scapegoat here. She's doing what Trump tells her to do. Unless you think she's going rogue to protect pedos. In which case that must be news to Trump considering how he keeps backing up the job she's doing.

She’s taking heat because of her saying the list was on her desk. And deservingly so

 

[midnight orange]

Turkey and the Ottoman empire in general IIRC historically had "peg houses" or peg boys, which seems clear enough. Oddly Muslims which may have a very conservative view of sex with women, can still participate in activities with young boys. But it would seem that the thinking is the shame is to be the penetrated one (i.e. the "woman"), not the penetrator (the male). Seems the ancient Greeks influenced these cultures more than expected.

I find facinating @midnight orange assertion of it possibly being a "talisman for elite status which means that they are not subject to the law like normal people." Yes, only the corpulent (money, power, body) could be so corrupted, so vile as to thumb their noses at the laws of God and conformity of culture. So among themselves it is taken for a sign of power. So interesting.

Reading a book called The Ancient City which is interesting because it shows the similarities between ancient Greek, Roman and Hindu culture which at one time was a monoculture in Central Asia. It doesn’t specifically say (so far anyway) but I would assume that monoculture had a lot of influence on the Middle East.

 

[McDad]

You're right if we're defining 'modern' as Western or Western-adjacent. In Western society, the affluent sub-groups you termed them, still must be furtive to avoid punishment. In others, it's open and customary.

The West isn't for everyone.

That's the hard part for me. I wasn't defining modern as western. I assumed that people of all cultures today would find systemic exploitation of children repulsive.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Jeffrey Epstein Had Zero Dirt on Donald Trump, Says Epstein's Defense Lawyer Jeffrey Epstein Had Zero Dirt on Donald Trump, Says Epstein's Defense Lawyer

Who are they protecting if Trump is in the clear?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Yep, just can’t trust a Jew. Anyone with any Jewish blood whatsoever is clearly just covering for Epstein and Israel

Not all. Guys like Dave Smith are fighting the good fight and exposing the truth. But most seem to be loyal to their tribe no matter what. Which is commendable in a vacuum. I wish black people were as aligned in our messaging and loyalty.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Yes, those nefarious string pullers have bought all our politicians

What other explanation do you have for why both the Democrats and Republicans have tried to bury the Epstein files if they aren't both implicated?

 

[midnight orange]

Dershowitz is unreliable imo. I wouldn’t leave him in a room alone with my kids.

 

[Vol8188]

What other explanation do you have for why both the Democrats and Republicans have tried to bury the Epstein files if they aren't both implicated?

You’re assuming there’s something to hide and that “the Jews” are behind it.

What specifically do you believe is hidden and why do you believe the “it” that is hidden exists?

 

[Vol8188]

Dershowitz is unreliable imo. I wouldn’t leave him in a room alone with my kids.

I probably would, but my kids are ugly and daycare isn’t cheap

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You're underestimating the hate for Trump. There's no price Dems wouldn't pay to take him down

You underestimate the fact it's all for show.

I actually interned in Washington for a minute. One of the things I had to do for my office was attend random congressional hearings and take notes for the higher ups. Usually it would be irrelevant hearings on stuff like the FDA. Nothing super sexy that gets on CNN. Well one of the things I saw during all these hearings is when the cameras are on the Dems and Republicans would be at each other's throats. Then when the hearing wraps they would go off to lunch together laughing. That's when I realized most of what they do is theater.

Remember how vicious Trump was to Hilary. He was gonna put her in jail. So on and so forth. Yet before running for President he was good friends with the Clintons. That's all Washington is. A buddy network where they put on a show for us when the cameras are on. When the cameras are off they're all the best of friends.

 

[NCFisher]

Bondi is obviously incompetent but I'm not sure why she's being made into the scapegoat here. She's doing what Trump tells her to do. Unless you think she's going rogue to protect pedos. In which case that must be news to Trump considering how he keeps backing up the job she's doing.

I disagree; you're asserting essentially that Trump has his hand up everyone's and they parrot. It isn't possible, and that's why you hire people to run their agencies.

As AG, you don't imply the client list - not simply the Epstein case files - are on your desk and hooooo boy! - you're going to be releasing the dirt, if you don't have dirt. You then produce declassified folders to media which amount to ham sandwiches consisting only of white bread and mayo. You also don't get caught on video telling someone over dinner there are thousands of videos of Epstein and little kids if you haven't seen them. And then repeating that in a presser.
Then lay an egg with the most recent memo.

The AG can't be viewed as the Penn. Ave version of the National Enquirer.
People always have their people's back. Until they have to resign.

 

[Gandalf]

Look up the sambia tribe and their practices

 

[NCFisher]

Or the assassination attempt was faked to fool people into thinking Trump was legit. I was always thought it was suspicious he had that small cut by his ear. Actual assassins hit the mark completely or if they aren't pros they don't get anywhere close to the target. The close miss just looked staged to me.

Yeah, and I thought the dead guy and the wounded looked like crisis actors from the Newtown shooting.

 

[MercyPercy]

I disagree; you're asserting essentially that Trump has his hand up everyone's and they parrot. It isn't possible, and that's why you hire people to run their agencies.

As AG, you don't imply the client list - not simply the Epstein case files - are on your desk and hooooo boy! - you're going to be releasing the dirt, if you don't have dirt. You then produce declassified folders to media which amount to ham sandwiches consisting only of white bread and mayo. You also don't get caught on video telling someone over dinner there are thousands of videos of Epstein and little kids if you haven't seen them. And then repeating that in a presser.
Then lay an egg with the most recent memo.

The AG can't be viewed as the Penn. Ave version of the National Enquirer.
People always have their people's back. Until they have to resign.

Trump seems to think she's doing a great job? So not sure who is gonna can her.

 

[Vol8188]

Yeah, and I thought the dead guy and the wounded looked like crisis actors from the Newtown shooting.

These lizard people just don’t know when to stop

 

[Gandalf]

That's the hard part for me. I wasn't defining modern as western. I assumed that people of all cultures today would find systemic exploitation of children repulsive.

It is natural humanistic hubris. We live and bloom in the soil of a Christian moral ethos and then arrogantly presume that we are what we are due to our own intrinsic goodness.

But we all come from a corrupted seed

The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Comey’s daughter getting fired from SDNY is an interesting point on this timeline

 

[Vol8188]

Comey’s daughter getting fired from SDNY is an interesting point on this timeline

Very weird timing. If you’re trying to get everything to die down and people to stop talking about this, firing her doesn’t help

 

[McDad]

You underestimate the fact it's all for show.

I actually interned in Washington for a minute. One of the things I had to do for my office was attend random congressional hearings and take notes for the higher ups. Usually it would be irrelevant hearings on stuff like the FDA. Nothing super sexy that gets on CNN. Well one of the things I saw during all these hearings is when the cameras are on the Dems and Republicans would be at each other's throats. Then when the hearing wraps they would go off to lunch together laughing. That's when I realized most of what they do is theater.

Remember how vicious Trump was to Hilary. He was gonna put her in jail. So on and so forth. Yet before running for President he was good friends with the Clintons. That's all Washington is. A buddy network where they put on a show for us when the cameras are on. When the cameras are off they're all the best of friends.

Political WWE.

 

[midnight orange]

Very weird timing. If you’re trying to get everything to die down and people to stop talking about this, firing her doesn’t help

Unless you’re firing her because you want to preserve evidence from the Diddy file. Trump is going to have to bbq someone to have any chance of cleaning up the Epstein mess. Total speculation on my part.

 

[volfanhill]

Gavin funny for once

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Scarborough: Why Didn’t Democrats Call for Epstein Files to Be Released During Biden Presidency?​

During an interview with Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) on Thursday, MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” co-host Joe Scarborough asked why, if the saga involving the late Jeffrey Epstein was a “crisis,” the Biden administration did not release records when it was in power.

“Epstein was able to use all of his powerful connections, including who was then his best friend, Donald Trump, in order to suppress a real hearing into what had happened,” Raskin said. “And look, why is this important? Because the sexual abuse of young people and children is a crisis throughout our society. There is, of course, the church scandal, or many church scandals. There’s what happened at Michigan State. There’s what happened at Ohio State.”

Scarborough interjected, “But, Congressman, you could have gotten that from ’21 to ’25, when Democrats controlled DOJ. It was a crisis then. It’s a crisis now. Why didn’t Democrats call for it from ’21 to ’25?”

Scarborough: Why Didn't Democrats Call for Epstein Files to Be Released During Biden Presidency?

During an interview with Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) on Thursday, MSNBC's "Morning Joe" co-host Joe Scarborough asked why, if the saga involving the late Jeffrey Epstein was a "crisis," the Biden administration did not release records when it was in power. | Clips

www.breitbart.com

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

You’re assuming there’s something to hide and that “the Jews” are behind it.

What specifically do you believe is hidden and why do you believe the “it” that is hidden exists?

Well the two main culprits in this operation Epstein and Maxwell were both Jewish. Maxwell's dad was a legendary Israeli spy. Epstein became a billionaire out of nowhere. His main benefactor was Les Wexner. Another Jew with connections to Israel. Ehud Barak (former President of Israel) was regularly seen entering and exiting Epstein's residence. And so forth.

Everything about the Epstein scandal screams Mossad Intelligence operation. To deny that it's most likely a Mossad Intelligence operation is to cease exercising critical reasoning skills. Now why would our government hide this? Well first it's evidence of treason. Our government officials were basically being blackmailed by a foreign government to advance their interests over our own. If that evidence came to light Americans would most likely demand we stop supporting Israel financially and make AIPAC a foreign organization so they can stop bribing our elected officials. US and Israeli relations would definitely strain. Israel doesn't want this and our blackmailed government officials don't want it either.

The entire Epstein cover-up is to protect Israel. Its clear as day.