James Franklin (Penn St)

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89 VOLS grad said:
You do some ACTUAL RESEARCH FOR AN HOUR and post ONE that is MORE PROVEN than Franklin as a successful winner and recruiter that is or was at a Power 5 school besides pipe dreams like FREEZE, MEYER, and STOOPS before bashing someone that put a lot of time into an IDEAL CANDIDATE. Fickle, Campbell, and MANY OTHER very successful coaches in the Power 5 HAVEN'T DONE IT IN THE SEC!!! THE SEC is A BEAST FROM and WILL EAT UP AND SPIT OUT the BEST BEST COACHES. ONLY THE TOP 5% STAY IN THE SEC FOR MORE THAN 4-5 YEARS!!! Franklin would still be doing well and taking his team to bowls every year had he stayed! That is saying something for a Vandy coach in the SEC!!!!
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joevol33 said:
Didn't he have some questionable dealings with his football players that raped someone? As in advising them to not talk/cooperate with the police? I may be remembering wrong, but there was something about him involving that situation.
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Yes and directed them to delete the videos off their phones. They raped a girl who was unconscious and videoed it. Can’t believe anybody is THAT desperate to want that scumbag to be the HFBC at UT.
 
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He can coach, ton of skeletons. And the SEC isn’t the Juggernaut that some think it is. Look at the bowl records the last few years. Outside the top 2-3 teams, it is pretty mediocre.
 
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JoAllan said:
Hey I’d sure take him over what Tennessee has had over the past decade or so.

However Tennessee is “probably” going to have to look “smaller”........as far as “current” head coaches go.

I also do not think Freeze is a “pipe dream”......it’s just probably not going to happen given the situation right now at Tennessee.
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I am saying it is a pipe dream should UT get rid of Pruitt due to violations!
 
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Nasavol said:
He can coach, ton of skeletons. And the SEC isn’t the Juggernaut that some think it is. Look at the bowl records the last few years. Outside the top 2-3 teams, it is pretty mediocre.
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I said UT could be a Juggernaut, meaning a winning record vs the big 3 (UA, UF, and UGA). That would also make UT a Juggernaut in the nation in college football. No one said anything about the entire SEC being a Juggernaut. But, there are probably at least 7 teams in the SEC that can beat the top 1-2 in the other Power 5 conferences most of the time. Besides, SEC has been the Juggernaut of college football the last 20 plus years!!! The SEC normally gets paired up with the higher rated teams from other conferences. When the top 3 SEC teams play the top 3 from other conferences, SEC USUALLY DOMINATES with the exception of UF this year. UF's entire WR core and TE didn't play. Did you watch MSU and Ole Miss beat teams with much better records in the bowls? Only the Big 12 will have a better Power 5 bowl record after Bama wins the NC.
 
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89 VOLS grad said:
I am saying it is a pipe dream should UT get rid of Pruitt due to violations!
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Your right........some will be glad......I’ll be sad, but it is what it is.

I’m prob not going to head any coaching searches anytime soon.......so maybe it’s a good thing (that’s he won’t be coming).

I just like Freeze because he has already improved down programs 3 times from year 1. I seriously don’t want to see any more “it takes years crap.”.......because with a good coach........it doesn’t.

Sure it would take years to get back to 90’s Tennessee......but not years to improve, to win and to be competitive.
 
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JoAllan said:
Your right........some will be glad......I’ll be sad, but it is what it is.

I’m prob not going to head any coaching searches anytime soon.......so maybe it’s a good thing (that’s he won’t be coming).

I just like Freeze because he has already improved down programs 3 times from year 1. I seriously don’t want to see any more “it takes years crap.”.......because with a good coach........it doesn’t.

Sure it would take years to get back to 90’s Tennessee......but not years to improve, to win and to be competitive.
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Agree 100%!
 
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89 VOLS grad said:
I will delete my post when you prove it is 32 million buyout for UT to get him. Learn to read! That is what PSU would pay him to get rid of him. Another school would pay PSU 5 million to get him from PSU due to Franklin owing PSU 5 million to leave early as of 2020.
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Yeah, but WHY LEAVE when you're guaranteed 32 large if they sack you???? He'd be a dang fool because expectations be damned....... 32M!!!

Don't be an idiot. Buyouts work both ways.

Let's see???? Go to TN and get a 20M buyout or stay at Penn State with my 32M if they fire me, no matter what? What shall I do?

You're a dang fool if you think he'd consider leaving Penn State. That's EXACTLY why they made the deal so sweet.
 
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89 VOLS grad said:
I know James Franklin has been mentioned several times over the years. I haven't seen him mentioned in several months. I hope the mods don't merge this thread. I believe it is different from anything posted in a long time.

It looks like CPJ is gone. UT needs to pay James Franklin's 5 million dollar buy out and $7 million a year to bring him back to the SEC. They man
moved mountains at Vandy. Many of his losses at Vandy to SEC were by 2 TDs or less. Yes, there were a few blowouts. But, the man lead Vandy to a lot of quality SEC wins with mainly 2-3 star players playing. Vandy went 5-3 and 4-4 his last two years of SEC PLAY playing in mainly hostile environments where home games aren't even home games 80% of the time. Yes, Franklin lead VU to 5-3 in only his second year with much less talent than other SEC teams!!! UT has only had two 5-3 seasons the last 13 years and hasn't went 6-2 in the SEC since 2007!!! Even the great Kiffin that so many of you want didn't go 5-3 his lone year at UT. Yes, the roster was sort of bare when Kiffin arrived. Do you think it was less talented than Franklin's in only his second year at Vandy???

You give Franklin a roster full of 4-5 star recruits playing in front of 75,000 to 95,000 of UT fans and watch UT kick some tail!!! Franklin also landed a lot of top recruits at Vandy his last two years. FRANKLIN is a PROVEN SEC COACH and PROVEN SEC RECRUITER with NO BAGGAGE and a 5 million buyout, possibly 4 million now that it is 2021!!!


James Franklin's new contract details released

James Franklin (American football coach) - Wikipedia


Look at his team's RESULTS at Vandy with much less talent than his opponents! As I said, the guy moved mountains. Think about what he could do with 4-5 star roster in front of 75,000-90,000 HOME CROWD with PROVEN OC like Chaney and a PROVEN DC like Bob Shoop or some other TOP NOTCH PROVEN DC!!! It is definitely a recipe for success in the SEC!!!!!


2011 Vanderbilt Commodores football team - Wikipedia

2012 Vanderbilt Commodores football team - Wikipedia

2013 Vanderbilt Commodores football team - Wikipedia


Look at how Vandy in recruiting before and during Franklin's time there:


(51st) YEAR BEFORE Franklin, 2010 Football Team Rankings

(49th) 1st year, 2011 Football Team Rankings

(46th) 2nd yr, 2012 Football Team Rankings

(26th) 3rd yr, 2013 Football Team Rankings


Franklin improved recuiting by 5 spots his first two years and 25 spots his last full year of recruiting. What do you think he could do at UT? If he only improved UT 5 spots over what UT is now and DEVELOPED and COACHED UP the players at UT like he did at VU and has at PSU, UT would probably be a JUGGERNAUT!!!
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Franklin is a POS. He allows sexual assault in his locker room between players.

"One player interviewed in the report told investigators that Barber, while naked, overpowered a teammate smaller than him and simulated sex acts, targeting him almost daily. "

"He told investigators the assaults and sexual touching at times reduced him and other freshman players to tears. "

"described an atmosphere in which Franklin discouraged players from sharing information about alleged incidents to the media or outside the team. He said Franklin would "remind people not to say anything "

Former Penn State football player says coach James Franklin told him not to report fight to police
 
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I like Franklin. I’ve been hoping we hire Herb Hand for this o line opening. Might as well reunite the gang.
 
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