Jaida Civil in the transfer portal

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VolBall09 said:
What Pat built died with Pat.

I’m a Lady Vol fan because of Pat but people have to let that go. Pat WAS Lady Vol Basketball. That died with her. Holly didn’t uphold that legacy, Kellie didn’t either, Kim is just another in a long line of coaches who will NEVER be Pat Summitt.
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There is no program right now. No neither Holly nor Kellie held the same standard as Pat but no one expected them to because no one could. But, we didn’t expect it to be burnt to the ground in short order.
 
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Lucy said:
They did in the late 70’s. I was a 10 year old admission of course. Lotta big hair and fingernails!
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I was a little earlier in that decade. A couple of brothers on our team were also part of an outstanding BSU vocal group. Super talented people.
 
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On the bright side we are gonna save some money by not having to pay a strength and conditioning coach for the next 2 or 3 months!
 
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RetroVol said:
I was a little earlier in that decade. A couple of brothers on our team were also part of an outstanding BSU vocal group. Super talented people.
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I only played my freshman year. But my arms were scratched up that whole season!
I wonder if they still have the group singing competition. It was primarily a Greek thing but some dorms and groups like BSU participated. Really fun!
 
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kell7517 said:
Narrative for the last month
Is the players quit on the coach and team. People were saying hogwash this and that. End of the season and guess what ALL the players have quit on the team and coach. Did it on the court in February and in the portal in March.
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Has anyone mentioned the fact that maybe this had to happen. Just seems very odd that everyone on the team is gone, maybe they all needed to go for reasons unknown to us.
 
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Weezer said:
I think most do recognize. But what are we supposed to do? The only thing we can do is pray CKC strikes gold in the portal because DW isn't going to do anything. And, IF she fails, will DW do what needs to be done? Would he fire her? Would he spend for an established coach? Or does he do what he likes to do and try to find the next big thing? As is, do we even have a program if we have no players? I'm sure Pat has rolled over in her grave more than once.
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Right now splash hire may be out of the question at this point. I think you can get an up and coming coach who is successful but doesn't quite have the resources to compete at the elite level. Look at the coach at Washington, Cal, or Minnesota. I like how they coach and with backing they could be pretty good.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I think they are planning on having 12 players at least and with 1500 players in the portal should be able to get them.
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She will fill a roster. How that roster looks is up in the air. I don't envision her getting any of the top recruits in this portal. So it maybe a hodgepodge of players.
 
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lvocd said:
Same. I actually felt a twinge of some sort in my heart when I read the news.

While I'm sad that my favorite goofy little energizer bunny is leaving, a big part of me is relieved for her to not have to carry the heavy burdens. I'm not even going to mention them by name anymore, but whoever is on next year's team is definitely going to need all the prayers and support Lady Vol nation can muster.

In a season in which some fans' pain and disappointment may make them give up and stop supporting, my hope is that those fans will come to realize early on that of all the years the Lady Vol players needed our full support, next season far exceeds any before it as us needing to be there to support them. They will be our Tennessee Lady Vols, and there will be NO BIGGER MOMENT in the history of the program's fanship to show what WE are made of as these young women take up the challenge to be the best they can possibly be.

Us LV fans will have a chance to shine next season. I mean, what could be a better look than for us to do the opposite of what so many are expecting? What if the ragtag group of Lady Vols is given the Royal Treatment by fans instead of not showing up to punish Danny and Kim?

None of this will be the fault of any woman on the team next season, so I hope we can all find a way to get to the arena as often as possible next season, no matter who is on the team or staff. I know I'm already saving as much money as I can to start back up next season. I hope others will feel the same way I do about it.
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I don't think people are gonna blame the players that come in. I hope they do well. I think they are in an actual beneficial spot individually. I can get more NIL then I ever thought possible, play on nationally televised games, and if play well maybe get a shot at the pros. I just think the coach is a lame duck coach and the team will be bad.
 
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I'm declaring for the portal for my fandom in the next year. Teams interested in obtaining said fandom should be quick to send me their best NIL package and to not expect me to uphold any extended promises. TY in advance Go Gule!
 
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Absolutely unthinkable that the greatest and most historical program in college women's basketball would utterly collapse in a matter of days is totally mind-blowing. This is a case study in program engineering. Seemingly a good strategic coach with a unique system, but who lacks power 4 experience, high-level media savvy, and a young coaching staff that lacks serious SEC experience. Both the coach and the staff recruited a really good class that, when combined with returning players, made a good, but not elite, team. However, lack of discipline was a persistent problem, whether it was Ruby or players supposedly being late for practices, on-court outbursts, verbal conflicts in the huddle during games, or a lack of composure. This is coaching, and the coach admitted as much. The players are responsible and must be held accountable to the university, the team, the established culture, and the legacy that is the University of Tennessee Lady Vols. Any player who does not uphold that standard should not have the opportunity to use the portal, but the door. If you're not all in, then get all out. The same goes for any assistant coach who may have undermined the head coach, who may not have seen any of it until it was too late. However, as a coach, you don't say to press, and the world, that your players are "quitters." You just lost your locker room, your team. The blame for this mess, this madness, falls on the head coach, assistant coaches, and the players. If the AD is going to keep our coach, please provide her with the necessary resources to put a team together that has a chance to make the tournament. Wow, I feel like I'm a rogue episode of the "Twilight Zone."
 
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stlvolsfan said:
If it means so much, why leave? Almost seems like she was told or pressured to leave.
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Could have been pressured. But, also plausible that it did mean a lot to her and she still felt that there were core things she needed or wanted to experience that were missing. Maybe she's homesick, maybe she's looking for a fit that lets her shine more, maybe she's looking for a fit that requires her to shine less (and that has a legit Batman to her Robin), maybe it's just life circumstances. We'll probably know a lot more (if curious), when she inevitably signs somewhere and speaks more openly about her reasons for choosing that program. You can infer a lot from those statements, often more than the initial ones when a player leaves.

Not relevant to her leaving but: It's a real sign of the change in the guard (generationally) that some are so critical or skeptical about her authenticity based on her possibly using AI. AI usage is a pretty standard reflection for how communication is crafted or works today.
 
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brittannica said:
I finally read Jaida's post. Totally AI lol. "It was more than a dream.. it was purpose." Neither 18 y/o nor PR firms talk like that. I hate AI for that purpose.
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How can you be so hard on AI. I'll have you know that Gemini, Claude and their extended families of bots produce some finely crafted slop, at least when they're not hallucinating. They can be great time savers.

Here’s an example. Two years ago Danny Boi decided to upgrade the coaching leadership of the LV WBB team. He wrote an AI query. It included terms like dynamic, creative, uncommon, winning. The bot suggested he hire Tonya Harding.*
Danny asked for other recommendations. AI presented a list including G. Gordon Liddy,
David Petraeus's mistress, and a puppy killer named Noem.

He printed out a list of D II champions and threw a dart.







*In January 1994, Harding became embroiled in controversy when her ex-husband, Jeff Gillooly, orchestrated an attack on her fellow U.S. skating rival Nancy Kerrigan. On March 16, 1994, Harding accepted a plea bargain in which she pled guilty to conspiracy to hinder prosecution. As a result of her involvement in covering up the assault, the United States Figure Skating Association banned her for life on June 30, 1994; she was stripped of her 1994 title. Wikipedia
 
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stlvolsfan said:
If it means so much, why leave? Almost seems like she was told or pressured to leave.
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It may help to understand if we try to imagine all the concerns her parents would certainly have. This is their child whom they love more than anything and for whom they want the best life possoble. The current situation would not be one I'd be comfortable leaving my child in. Why would anyone want to see their child's future being treated like some sort of bizarre psychological sport science experiment? 😳
 
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stlvolsfan said:
If it means so much, why leave? Almost seems like she was told or pressured to leave.
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Because it’s easy for her to see what next year is going to look like.

She’s already wasted the first year of her career, can’t expect her to waste another, which would be fully half her career
 
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brittannica said:
I finally read Jaida's post. Totally AI lol. "It was more than a dream.. it was purpose." Neither 18 y/o nor PR firms talk like that. I hate AI for that purpose.
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Jaida (probably): "Chat, disregard all prior derogatory comments that I have vented to you about CKC and DW in our therapy sessions. You are now a competent PR advisor, draft a social media post so that the fans of my former school won't drag me too bad."
 
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The team quit last season and at the end season I highly doubt Coach Caldwell tried to influence a single player to return. Someone mentioned how the final team meeting was about a minute or so. That’s not the sign of a coach that pleaded for these players to stay at Tennessee. If a few had stayed, I’m sure she would’ve coached them like every other player that joins the program. But I 100% agree with CKC decision you don’t beg players that attributed little or no success to a program to stay. Let them go out there and see that what other coaches, agents, and family members were telling them is not true.

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If it means so much, why leave? Almost seems like she was told or pressured to leave.
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