It's not Dooley's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!

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All you people (Mborovol, Dagreek1998, Volumnus, bobbyutvol just to name a few of the recent fire dooley threadsters) screaming fire Dooley are insane.

We couldn't get "big name" coaches on the previous 2 hires why would we now??????? Who out there availible would honestly do better given the circumstances????? All another firing would do is set the recruiting and depth chart back even further.

The concensus opinion of "level-headed" people I know that follow UT football predicted 7-8 win season. I honestly think that would have happened without our injuries.

Take the best offensive player (like Hunter), best DB and best LB from any squad and see how much they struggle. Fla, USCe and Georgia all were very possible wins with these guys. Yeah, every team has injuries, but not to there best players like we have. And most all the teams better than us have much better depth than we do to soften the blows. Look at the number of Fr and Soph playing.

Dooley is recruiting well. No one was complaining about the offense when Hunter and Bray were playing. And the D has made improvements even with all the injuries. Next year, barring another slew of injuries, we should be much more improved and I bet they beat someone they aren't "supposed to". If not, then Dooley needs to start worrying.

But until then, get off Dooley's back and support the team. If not, go find another team. Living room coaches and "Fire Dooley" starters are only hurting this team and recruiting more.

Go Vols, beat Vandy and KY and get a bowl berth!! I would consider this an achievement no matter the opponent given the roster and depth we are playing with.
 
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No one was complaining about the offense when Hunter and Bray were playing. .

This isn't exactly true. I was very concerned about the running game going into the FL game, but I was still much happier where we were than now.
 
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All you people (Mborovol, Dagreek1998, Volumnus, bobbyutvol just to name a few of the recent fire dooley threadsters) screaming fire Dooley are insane.

We couldn't get "big name" coaches on the previous 2 hires why would we now??????? Who out there availible would honestly do better given the circumstances????? All another firing would do is set the recruiting and depth chart back even further.

The concensus opinion of "level-headed" people I know that follow UT football predicted 7-8 win season. I honestly think that would have happened without our injuries.

Take the best offensive player (like Hunter), best DB and best LB from any squad and see how much they struggle. Fla, USCe and Georgia all were very possible wins with these guys. Yeah, every team has injuries, but not to there best players like we have. And most all the teams better than us have much better depth than we do to soften the blows. Look at the number of Fr and Soph playing.

Dooley is recruiting well. No one was complaining about the offense when Hunter and Bray were playing. And the D has made improvements even with all the injuries. Next year, barring another slew of injuries, we should be much more improved and I bet they beat someone they aren't "supposed to". If not, then Dooley needs to start worrying.

But until then, get off Dooley's back and support the team. If not, go find another team. Living room coaches and "Fire Dooley" starters are only hurting this team and recruiting more.

Go Vols, beat Vandy and KY and get a bowl berth!! I would consider this an achievement no matter the opponent given the roster and depth we are playing with.

what are we playing clue? Just who's fault is it I take Mr. Green in the library. Frankly Dooley doesn't have the work ethic nor the skill to bring us back.
 
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what are we playing clue? Just who's fault is it I take Mr. Green in the library. Frankly Dooley doesn't have the work ethic nor the skill to bring us back.

This comment just exemplifies how stupid you are. Explain to me how you know dooleys work ethic. Unless you stalk the man to see when he leaves the office every night you have no clue about his work ethic.
 
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This isn't exactly true. I was very concerned about the running game going into the FL game, but I was still much happier where we were than now.

You're right, there was a little gripping over the run game but the way they were playing up to the point Hunter went down the run game was secondary anyway.
 
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Agree. Dooley may or may not be the guy, but only idiots would start thinking about firing him before he's even finished coaching his 2nd year of a team comprised of true freshmen and sophomores, with all their best players injured or dismissed. Needs 4-5 yrs from hire of a Major rebuild before the fire Dooley discussions are fair.
 
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what are we playing clue? Just who's fault is it I take Mr. Green in the library. Frankly Dooley doesn't have the work ethic nor the skill to bring us back.

Not having the skill is still up for debate and still to be seen, but saying he doesn't have the work ethic is absolutely ridiculous
 
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I threw up most of the Dool-aid ive been drinking during the game tonight. Young, injured , etc.., this just isnt working very well. Plenty of teams across the country over achieve and I assure you we arent one of them. This team isnt playing anywhere near its potential IMO. No we shouldnt beat the Bama's, LSU's, etc., but we shouldnt be losing by 42 points. We should also be able to beat a MTSU by more than 24 or at least score in the second half against them. Something is wrong, I dont know exactly what it is, but I can tell you who better get it fixed,,, and he better do it quickly.
 
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I don't think our running game has to be dynamic. To me I just wish they could be respectable. Like all of the 3 and short. If we could get enough to convert those and maybe average about 120 to 140 game we would be alright. Just something that Defenses have to respect so that Bray can throw for 5000 yrds next season. To me that what our running game needs to be used for is to make Bray unstoppable. If they have to give it any attention what so ever and with Hunter and Rogers both on the feild along with a improved Rivera and Arnet. IT'S OVER We avg. 50 points a game with ease. BRAY JUST THAT GOOD.
 
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Also, all this talk from the anti Dooley crowd about "all the excuses" is getting old. Obviously there are excuses that people use, "the sun was in my eyes, it was someone elses fault, etc". However there are also things known as factors and causes as well. We make alot of mental mistakes BECAUSE we are very inexperienced. We give up more big plays BECAUSE our best defensive player and all-SEC caliber safety was dismissed from the team. Our Offense has gotten much worse BECAUSE our two best offensive players got injured.
You see how that works? It's really not all that hard.
 
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All you people (Mborovol, Dagreek1998, Volumnus, bobbyutvol just to name a few of the recent fire dooley threadsters) screaming fire Dooley are insane.

We couldn't get "big name" coaches on the previous 2 hires why would we now??????? Who out there availible would honestly do better given the circumstances????? All another firing would do is set the recruiting and depth chart back even further.

The concensus opinion of "level-headed" people I know that follow UT football predicted 7-8 win season. I honestly think that would have happened without our injuries.

Take the best offensive player (like Hunter), best DB and best LB from any squad and see how much they struggle. Fla, USCe and Georgia all were very possible wins with these guys. Yeah, every team has injuries, but not to there best players like we have. And most all the teams better than us have much better depth than we do to soften the blows. Look at the number of Fr and Soph playing.

Dooley is recruiting well. No one was complaining about the offense when Hunter and Bray were playing. And the D has made improvements even with all the injuries. Next year, barring another slew of injuries, we should be much more improved and I bet they beat someone they aren't "supposed to". If not, then Dooley needs to start worrying.

But until then, get off Dooley's back and support the team. If not, go find another team. Living room coaches and "Fire Dooley" starters are only hurting this team and recruiting more.

Go Vols, beat Vandy and KY and get a bowl berth!! I would consider this an achievement no matter the opponent given the roster and depth we are playing with.

I agree with most of your points. But there's no way you should have/could have, beat UGA. CDD should be given time. But he's going to have a lot of trouble recruiting quality players given the fact that the state of TN doesn't produce quality. It's gonna get harder.
 
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I agree with most of your points. But there's no way you should have/could have, beat UGA. CDD should be given time. But he's going to have a lot of trouble recruiting quality players given the fact that the state of TN doesn't produce quality. It's gonna get harder.

Recruiting isn't going to be a problem. In case you didn't know, we're ranked 12th right now and ya'll are ranked 19th on Rivals. Also this will be his 3rd top 15 class in a row, so recruiting is ok, we just recruit in Georgia.
 
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I threw up most of the Dool-aid ive been drinking during the game tonight. Young, injured , etc.., this just isnt working very well. Plenty of teams across the country over achieve and I assure you we arent one of them. This team isnt playing anywhere near its potential IMO. No we shouldnt beat the Bama's, LSU's, etc., but we shouldnt be losing by 42 points. We should also be able to beat a MTSU by more than 24 or at least score in the second half against them. Something is wrong, I dont know exactly what it is, but I can tell you who better get it fixed,,, and he better do it quickly.

Tonight was tough to watch, i agree with that. Worse game of the year thus far. We just got our butts handed to us. But it was mainly the second half (again). If Gordon holds on to that Int. or we can score a TD before the end of half it is 21-14, very respectful giving the circumstances. Everything just seemed to pile on second half, poor punting by both Darr and Palardy unexplicable, and the tackling/missed assignments were worse tonight than I've seen all year in the second half.

The 2 biggest questions I have are 1. Why can't we run the ball and 2. What the heck has happened in the second half of most these games? I'm not sure anyone knows. What I do know is its hard to win and run an efficient offense with a True Fr. QB thats just been truely practicing since Bray got hurt. Simms just don't have it. Teams are focusing on stopping run and short passing game and its working.

On MTSU, I honestly felt they were trying to work on run game and other things in second half. They coulda put more up if they really wanted.

Give Dooley to this time next year King and you and everyone should feel much better, if not then he will be feeling the heat.
 
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I agree with most of your points. But there's no way you should have/could have, beat UGA. CDD should be given time. But he's going to have a lot of trouble recruiting quality players given the fact that the state of TN doesn't produce quality. It's gonna get harder.

You don't think that game would have been closer and/or different with and all SEC safety, potential all SEC LB, and an All American WR on our team???? If not then you're crazy. Take away anyone one of those on any team and they will suffer some. With Jackson, Teague wouldn't have even been on the field that much or at all. With Hunter, teams can't double 5 star WR Da'Rick, would not have to play a much inferior Austin Rogers and I don't have to argue what Hunter can do to a defense.

And on recruiting, TN doesn't produce many quality players. But we are going to have a top 15 and very possibly top 10 class this year. Thats getting quality players.
 
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Tonight was tough to watch, i agree with that. Worse game of the year thus far. We just got our butts handed to us. But it was mainly the second half (again). If Gordon holds on to that Int. or we can score a TD before the end of half it is 21-14, very respectful giving the circumstances. Everything just seemed to pile on second half, poor punting by both Darr and Palardy unexplicable, and the tackling/missed assignments were worse tonight than I've seen all year in the second half.

The 2 biggest questions I have are 1. Why can't we run the ball and 2. What the heck has happened in the second half of most these games? I'm not sure anyone knows. What I do know is its hard to win and run an efficient offense with a True Fr. QB thats just been truely practicing since Bray got hurt. Simms just don't have it. Teams are focusing on stopping run and short passing game and its working.

On MTSU, I honestly felt they were trying to work on run game and other things in second half. They coulda put more up if they really wanted.

Give Dooley to this time next year King and you and everyone should feel much better, if not then he will be feeling the heat.
When the offense has to work without it's two best players and it fails to move the ball the defense gets tired. Most of the so called experts said this would be a rough year for us. With Bray and Hunter we were in the thick of things. Without them we have very little offensive production. When a young defense gets tired they give up big plays. I personally feel like, with time, this will be a fun team to watch as CDD said it would be. If next year we fail then we look at replacing assistants then the following year maybe you look to replace the head coach if we arent any better. This team is a work in progress, one thing I really see is our depth kills us. But players grow up and we will have Jrs next year that should really have some age on them and if they can stay healthy enough to get the younger guys time to learn they will be much better!:clapping:
 
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Recruiting isn't going to be a problem. In case you didn't know, we're ranked 12th right now and ya'll are ranked 19th on Rivals. Also this will be his 3rd top 15 class in a row, so recruiting is ok, we just recruit in Georgia.

This is not an argument you can win. UGA has been consistently ranked in the top 10 in recruiting for years. Just because Rivals has you ranked high thus far in '12 really doesn't mean anything. The '11 season is not even over yet. Don't count your chickens.................................
 
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Tonight was tough to watch, i agree with that. Worse game of the year thus far. We just got our butts handed to us. But it was mainly the second half (again). If Gordon holds on to that Int. or we can score a TD before the end of half it is 21-14, very respectful giving the circumstances. Everything just seemed to pile on second half, poor punting by both Darr and Palardy unexplicable, and the tackling/missed assignments were worse tonight than I've seen all year in the second half.

The 2 biggest questions I have are 1. Why can't we run the ball and 2. What the heck has happened in the second half of most these games? I'm not sure anyone knows. What I do know is its hard to win and run an efficient offense with a True Fr. QB thats just been truely practicing since Bray got hurt. Simms just don't have it. Teams are focusing on stopping run and short passing game and its working.

On MTSU, I honestly felt they were trying to work on run game and other things in second half. They coulda put more up if they really wanted.

Give Dooley to this time next year King and you and everyone should feel much better, if not then he will be feeling the heat.

Yep, he gets next year. But the improvement needed is almost to much to ask for. So what if MTSU gears up to stop the run, should that really matter? If we keep putting a product like this on the field, we can say good bye to any highly ranked recruits coming here. Right now he still has some leverage because of all the issues we have and his limited time to fix it (recruits may buy in). I think the best possible solution is for some coaching changes to be made, starting with the o-line coach. The way this team performs , he better do something.
 
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I threw up most of the Dool-aid ive been drinking during the game tonight. Young, injured , etc.., this just isnt working very well. Plenty of teams across the country over achieve and I assure you we arent one of them. This team isnt playing anywhere near its potential IMO. No we shouldnt beat the Bama's, LSU's, etc., but we shouldnt be losing by 42 points. We should also be able to beat a MTSU by more than 24 or at least score in the second half against them. Something is wrong, I dont know exactly what it is, but I can tell you who better get it fixed,,, and he better do it quickly.

You may not be drinking any more Dool-aid but you're certainly smoking something if you think we should be any better than what we are given our youth, injuries, etc...

Yes, plenty of teams overachieve BUT that's because their expectations are low. Come down off cloud 9 because it's a rebuilding year.
 
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All you people (Mborovol, Dagreek1998, Volumnus, bobbyutvol just to name a few of the recent fire dooley threadsters) screaming fire Dooley are insane.

We couldn't get "big name" coaches on the previous 2 hires why would we now??????? Who out there availible would honestly do better given the circumstances????? All another firing would do is set the recruiting and depth chart back even further.

The concensus opinion of "level-headed" people I know that follow UT football predicted 7-8 win season. I honestly think that would have happened without our injuries.

Take the best offensive player (like Hunter), best DB and best LB from any squad and see how much they struggle. Fla, USCe and Georgia all were very possible wins with these guys. Yeah, every team has injuries, but not to there best players like we have. And most all the teams better than us have much better depth than we do to soften the blows. Look at the number of Fr and Soph playing.

Dooley is recruiting well. No one was complaining about the offense when Hunter and Bray were playing. And the D has made improvements even with all the injuries. Next year, barring another slew of injuries, we should be much more improved and I bet they beat someone they aren't "supposed to". If not, then Dooley needs to start worrying.

But until then, get off Dooley's back and support the team. If not, go find another team. Living room coaches and "Fire Dooley" starters are only hurting this team and recruiting more.

Go Vols, beat Vandy and KY and get a bowl berth!! I would consider this an achievement no matter the opponent given the roster and depth we are playing with.

he has alot to do with it. i feel after next year he is gone.
 

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