Is there a back story on why Thigpen stayed?

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#78
Iam4utalways said:
When JRM got hurt it wasn't Jumper that took his spot. When that guy got hurt that's when Jumper went in.

Is that not 3rd string?

Just because he played in all and started 7 due to injury doesn't change the fact he should have been buried in the depth chart.

What am I missing? No joke. Is that not what happened?

Edit: After further review, McDowell was JRM's backup and Jumper was DKjr's backup.

Jumper was not 3rd string he was 2nd.
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Thank you. When DKJr went out, Jumper was next man up. As you've already pointed out, that's 2nd string, not third
 
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volfan102455 said:
Some of the development is the coaches - but no matter how good a coach (or teacher is) if the student doesn't focus and put in the work - they will not develop.

Injuries also play a factor. Settling into the routine of college is also a factor. Some will also grow into a role slower.

I think some may also get discouraged when it doesn't happen immediately. They come in thinking they are going to beat out players that have already established themselves in the system. Unless there is a big difference between pure talent, experience will always win out at the start.

It takes both sides for growth to occur. Some on here just want to focus on the coaching side and some expect a high school kid to walk on campus and contribute immediately. And they incorrectly get labeled a bust when it doesn't happen. Sad ....
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I hear what you're saying, and believe it true with some kids, but I honestly believe Thig isn't a great teacher. I think he's great at forming bonds with these young men, hence his recruiting success, but he hasn't shown me he's a great teacher. I think most of our LB success has been due to the talent the players possess, and the coaching they've received prior. I think our LBs could be much better with a proper teacher, but in college athletics, you have to balance teaching with recruiting.
 
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#84
Weezer said:
I hear what you're saying, and believe it true with some kids, but I honestly believe Thig isn't a great teacher. I think he's great at forming bonds with these young men, hence his recruiting success, but he hasn't shown me he's a great teacher. I think most of our LB success has been due to the talent the players possess, and the coaching they've received prior. I think our LBs could be much better with a proper teacher, but in college athletics, you have to balance teaching with recruiting.
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But you really don't know that and neither do I.

The problem I have is with those that follow this path of reasoning ..

- If something bad is happening it is all due to the coaching.
- If something is not happening it is all due to the coaching.
- If something good is happening it is all due to the ability of the players (never the coaching).

Unless one is at every practice, every team meeting, every unit meeting and knows exactly what play was called, what the play was supposed to do verses what it did - you have no way of knowing if a failure is due to coaching or execution.
 
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volfan102455 said:
But you really don't know that and neither do I.

The problem I have is with those that follow this path of reasoning ..

- If something bad is happening it is all due to the coaching.
- If something is not happening it is all due to the coaching.
- If something good is happening it is all due to the ability of the players (never the coaching).

Unless one is at every practice, every team meeting, every unit meeting and knows exactly what play was called, what the play was supposed to do verses what it did - you have no way of knowing if a failure is due to coaching or execution.
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That line of thinking is the most popular due to it being the most accurate.

The coaches and staff spend countless hours picking and choosing the players to invite to the team, if the player is unwilling to learn or unable to learn then that is on the coaches. When all goes well the only credit the coaches can claim is that they were part of the reason for the player being on the team, even with that the player gets the credit for choosing the Vols due to the history of our program rather than the coach and his ability to sell an obvious superior product.

When a salesman is pushing the best thing going, how hard can it be to get folks to buy?

As for when a play is a bust, the coach that called it is the one that is at fault same goes with poor execution, the coach should have coached the player better to ensure the execution would occur to a level of satisfaction.

It's a double standard that leaders deal with on a daily basis.
 
#86
#86
I heard the EdO story was he described himself as a "coronass". I never heard the drunk or fart story.

Jefferson's mom was anti-UT in his recruitment. I guess they love Ole Miss now. The Jeffersons don't even live here anymore
 
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volfan102455 said:
But you really don't know that and neither do I.

The problem I have is with those that follow this path of reasoning ..

- If something bad is happening it is all due to the coaching.
- If something is not happening it is all due to the coaching.
- If something good is happening it is all due to the ability of the players (never the coaching).

Unless one is at every practice, every team meeting, every unit meeting and knows exactly what play was called, what the play was supposed to do verses what it did - you have no way of knowing if a failure is due to coaching or execution.
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You got to look at percentages. Any coach can have standouts and busts. Where do the rest fall? Why does Thig have so many busts after 4 years?
 
#88
#88
wmcovol said:
I heard the EdO story was he described himself as a "coronass". I never heard the drunk or fart story.

Jefferson's mom was anti-UT in his recruitment. I guess they love Ole Miss now. The Jeffersons don't even live here anymore
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Ole Miss set 'em up with a nice house in Mississippi? ;)
 
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volfan102455 said:
Some of the development is the coaches - but no matter how good a coach (or teacher is) if the student doesn't focus and put in the work - they will not develop.

Injuries also play a factor. Settling into the routine of college is also a factor. Some will also grow into a role slower.


I'm new here, it's early and I'm slightly confused.

Sooo, when they grow into a "role slower" does that mean they become linemen?
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