Is the Catholic Church an evil entity?

[n_huffhines]

Here's why I think it is a miss. "Marriage" is a deep seeded value held by Christians. While it might be in other religions/cults, it is a foundational one in Christianity. So they protest for the sanctity of that institution,

Divorce Rates for Atheists Lower Than Christians

 

[davethevol]

Divorce Rates for Atheists Lower Than Christians

Did I miss something in the article where it gave the actual number of atheist couples that are married?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Not sure what your point is? You want me to publicly condemn all Catholics?

That's where his miss is. He singles out Christians, not just Catholics. He doesn't see it however.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Divorce Rates for Atheists Lower Than Christians

non sequitur. You are missing the point too.

 

[PKT_VOL]

As with any association of individuals, a few bad apples, however bad they may seem, isn't sufficient to deem the association itself as bad.

 

[n_huffhines]

Did I miss something in the article where it gave the actual number of atheist couples that are married?

Why does that matter?

 

[Matt2496]

As with any association of individuals, a few bad apples, however bad they may seem, isn't sufficient to deem the association itself as bad.

I think most Catholic people detest what happened, but to have high ranking Catholic leaders come out, defend, and even try to cover up this sort of evil demonstrates there are more than a few bad apples involved.

 

[n_huffhines]

non sequitur. You are missing the point too.

How is it non-sequitur? You're saying they hold marriage sacred. I am saying that they don't hold it anymore sacred than the average Joe.

 

[Septic]

I think most Catholic people detest what happened, but to have high ranking Catholic leaders come out, defend, and even try to cover up this sort of evil demonstrates there are more than a few bad apples involved.

I think the NCAA would define this as lack of institutional control.

 

[PKT_VOL]

I think most Catholic people detest what happened, but to have high ranking Catholic leaders come out, defend, and even try to cover up this sort of evil demonstrates there are more than a few bad apples involved.

Do you realize how big the Catholic church is?

I would also doubt that anyone in this thread would make the argument that child molestation is a tenet of their religion/belief/mission or that it is supported by anything more than a miniscule fraction of the church.

 

[Matt2496]

Do you realize how big the Catholic church is?

I would also doubt that anyone in this thread would make the argument that child molestation is a tenet of their religion/belief/mission or that it is supported by anything more than a miniscule fraction of the church.

No one said it was a "tenet of their religion" . Regardless, there is a known pattern of sexual abuse in the Catholic church.

These priests are being enabled by their leadership, and it should be disgusting to everyone, including Catholics.

Catholic Church sex abuse cases by country - Wikipedia

 

[davethevol]

How is it non-sequitur? You're saying they hold marriage sacred. I am saying that they don't hold it anymore sacred than the average Joe.

Sample size matters to make a fair comparison. Ftr, I’m not saying those claiming to be Christians don’t have a higher divorce rate.

 

[volfanhill]

I think the NCAA would define this as lack of institutional control.

So the Feds are going to come down hard on the Coptic Jews?

 

[n_huffhines]

Sample size matters to make a fair comparison. Ftr, I’m not saying those claiming to be Christians don’t have a higher divorce rate.

All I'm demonstrating is that Christians don't really hold marriage that sacred. I couldn't care less about what the marriage rate of atheists is.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Do you realize how big the Catholic church is?

I would also doubt that anyone in this thread would make the argument that child molestation is a tenet of their religion/belief/mission or that it is supported by anything more than a miniscule fraction of the church.

Who made that argument?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

All I'm demonstrating is that Christians don't really hold marriage that sacred.

I don't see how anyone could miss the simple point you are making. Either they are deliberately twisting the meaning or they are really that mentally dense.

 

[midnight orange]

All I'm demonstrating is that Christians don't really hold marriage that sacred. I couldn't care less about what the marriage rate of atheists is.

I don't think Christians hold a lot of things sacred that Jesus did.

 

[Orange_Crush]

When our gov't makes child molestation legal, you'll have a point.

 

[Quaint88]

They are surely clueless.

Wow! I'm sure that's a consolation to the victims and their families.

 

[Squints]

I don't know man, feels like I made solid contact.

I think your feelz for me are getting in the way of reason.

Here's why I think it is a miss. "Marriage" is a deep seeded value held by Christians. While it might be in other religions/cults, it is a foundational one in Christianity. So they protest for the sanctity of that institution, AND what they feel it means from the Bible. (The institution of marriage is great if you want to be institutionalized - paraphrasing Rodney)

With the exception of possibly islam, child molsetation is pretty much universally condemned. So the singling out of Christians in the meme is the miss. There was NOBODY 'there' which to me says that EVERYBODY thinks it's OK.

jmho

And as much as you want me to, I really don't GAF about you Septic. I think you are a self indulgent wannabe troll.

SpaceCoast from the sidewalk......

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Here's why I think it is a miss. "Marriage" is a deep seeded value held by Christians. While it might be in other religions/cults, it is a foundational one in Christianity. So they protest for the sanctity of that institution, AND what they feel it means from the Bible. (The institution of marriage is great if you want to be institutionalized - paraphrasing Rodney)

With the exception of possibly islam, child molsetation is pretty much universally condemned. So the singling out of Christians in the meme is the miss. There was NOBODY 'there' which to me says that EVERYBODY thinks it's OK.

jmho

And as much as you want me to, I really don't GAF about you Septic. I think you are a self indulgent wannabe troll.

And marriage may be just that to Christians, but they are forcing their deeply held religious tenets on others.

 

[apevol]

Marriage being uniquely important in christianity vs other religions is laughable.

 

[Orangeslice13]

There is nothing worse than a man of the cloth who takes advantage of his/her position with minor children.

Having said that, I know there are a lot of good Catholics out there. I am Presbyterian and not Catholic though.

I thought you were a nihilist?

 

[Roustabout]

Covering up, allowing continued contact with children and the character assassination of some victims is supporting molestation. It fostered an environment of secrecy and acceptance that allowed these priests to victimize more children. It's disgusting.

And now the church is rationalizing the behavior of more than just few rogue priests by trying to justify the behavior of its priests by minimizing their actions.

No argument there. It's ****ed up. Heads ought to roll. I'm simply referring to the meme. The Catholic Church doesn't reach that molesting children is correct. If the government passed legislation that it was ok for priest to molest children the outcry would be far beyond the gay marriage thing.
Memes are shallow and often fail. Yours did.

 

[Roustabout]

Marriage being uniquely important in christianity vs other religions is laughable.

It's almost like it's universally the case.