Is Tennessee like Bama? What would spread be Bama vs. UF?

[VolnTEARS?]

Listening to sports talk earlier today and someone was describing Alabama.

They said Bama has a mediocre QB....fantastic defense...and great running backs.

Sounds like what Tennessee could be.

We have a solid defense but as good as Bama's?

Could be.

We have great running backs? No doubt.

We have a mediocre QB? Is McElroy that much better?

What's left....their receivers and the O-line.

Is our line that much worse than Bama's and are our receivers that much worse than Bama's and is our QB so much worse than Bama's that we are a 30 point underdog?

I say Crompton is either "due" for a decent major-mistake free game or he is due for the bench.

So if Bama with their mediocre QB and stable of running backs were to play UF what do you guys think the spread would be?

Edit: Also, what would the spread be if we played against Bama today? Just curious as to the thoughts....I'm certainly not looking ahead...just comparing Bama/UT at this stage in the game.

 

[BrierVol61]

last year I would have said Bama was more physical than we were.

 

[Cartervol]

Bama has better depth on both lines of scrimmage. A excellent group of linebackers. If they have a weakness on defense its the secondary.
I'd take Greg McElroy over CrompDaddy anyday and we don't have a Julio Jones.
So in short we're not like them at all.

 

[triadvolfan]

Their OL, QB, and receivers are better than UT's at this point. McElroy has certainly outplayed Crompton and their OL looked great against a good DL in the Va. Tech game while UT's struggled against UCLA. Julio is a great receiver who is a lot better than anyone on UT's roster. Receiver is actually a strength for Alabama and their OL and QB aren't nearly the liabilities that UT's are. Those 3 positions aren't even that close at this point.

The defenses and RBs are comparable.

 

[99gator]

tennessee's defense is not as good as bama's. that will become obvious on saturday.

just look at the front seven for crying out loud. night and day.

i know, i know.

but, let me say this. people thought the tennessee offense was good and along came ucla. well, ucla doesn't have the horses on its offense to challenge the tennessee defense.

the florida offense will maul the tennessee defense up front.

 

[Cartervol]

tennessee's defense is not as good as bama's. that will become obvious on saturday.

just look at the front seven for crying out loud. night and day.

i know, i know.

but, let me say this. people thought the tennessee offense was good and along came ucla. well, ucla doesn't have the horses on its offense to challenge the tennessee defense.

the florida offense will maul the tennessee defense up front.

Nope

 

[Vols033]

Bama has a great team. I think they have the best defense in the SEC. We are still a few recruiting classes away from having a team as deep as Bama. Our starters are really good on defense, but if anyone gets hurt we are screwed. I think the spread for UF and Florida would be around 7. Perception from the media is the only reason the line is 28. It should be around 18 but everyone for some reason thinks we will get killed. They cite how Florida looked in the first 2 games, we beat WKU 63-7. Let Florida play some competition before I say they won't miss Percy Harvin this year.

 

[99gator]

Nope

you like defensive tackles with no knees and freshman backups getting playing time sprinkled into the mix against the florida offensive line?

the interior of the florida offensive line will have its way with wes brown and dan williams.

the d-tackles at alabama (heck, cody by himself) are better.

the d-line looked good against ucla, because they had a true freshman left tackle and a couple other juco 1st year starters.

florida has the real deal on the offensive line, especially the interior of the line.

 

[Cartervol]

you like defensive tackles with no knees and freshman backups getting playing time sprinkled into the mix against the florida offensive line?

the interior of the florida offensive line will have its way with wes brown and dan williams.

the d-tackles at alabama (heck, cody by himself) are better.

the d-line looked good against ucla, because they had a true freshman left tackle and a couple other juco 1st year starters.

florida has the real deal on the offensive line, especially the interior of the line.

Wes brown has played limited snaps this year. So you won't see him much. Besides we stalemated that deal up here last year. I can't remember them being mauled last year, won't happen this year either. D-line is one place the vols are better so forget that.

 

[99gator]

Wes brown has played limited snaps this year. So you won't see him much. Besides we stalemated that deal up here last year. I can't remember them being mauled last year, won't happen this year either. D-line is one place the vols are better so forget that.

just have to agree to disagree i guess.

if wes brown isn't playing much.....

then, it's dan williams and who?

 

[Cartervol]

just have to agree to disagree i guess.

if wes brown isn't playing much.....

then, it's dan williams and who?

Monterio Hughes, a 310 pound monster. Kid is a beast and is going to be a good one. He already beat out brown for that spot, might have something to do with his knees. He has the look of a d-tackle. Brown is undersized.

 

[Ashevillevol]

REspective rankings of the two teams should give you an idea of the comparative talent level of Vols vs.Tide

 

[OWB]

Monterio Hughes, a 310 pound monster. Kid is a beast and is going to be a good one. He already beat out brown for that spot, might have something to do with his knees. He has the look of a d-tackle. Brown is undersized.

I watched Montori Hughes when he got to play in the UCLA game and he had his way more times than not. There was one field goal where he was in the middle and he pushed two UCLA guys back about 5 yards. He's going to be a good one when it's all said and done.

 

[Cartervol]

I watched Montori Hughes when he got to play in the UCLA game and he had his way more times than not. There was one field goal where he was in the middle and he pushed two UCLA guys back about 5 yards. He's going to be a good one when it's all said and done.

Oh yeah he is definitely a diamond in the rough. He'll do better than Wes would against the gators just from his sheer size and strength. On the other hand if Florida's o-line manhandles us then we're in for a long day. Probably in for a long day anyway but we need to hold our own in this match up. If we start sending linebackers to get to Tebow its going to get ugly fast.

 

[volfan4evr]

tennessee's defense is not as good as bama's. that will become obvious on saturday.

just look at the front seven for crying out loud. night and day.

i know, i know.

but, let me say this. people thought the tennessee offense was good and along came ucla. well, ucla doesn't have the horses on its offense to challenge the tennessee defense.

the florida offense will maul the tennessee defense up front.

You trying to convince us to e-mail/call the UT team and have them cancel Saturday's game? You trying to make us AFRAID of urbie's boys? Shake in our shoes? Cry like babies? This is why we play the game.......bring it!

 

[UtennfaninVa]

i hope to not, in any way, compare ourselves to Bama...

 

[Ashevillevol]

You trying to convince us to e-mail/call the UT team and have them cancel Saturday's game? You trying to make us AFRAID of urbie's boys? Shake in our shoes? Cry like babies? This is why we play the game.......bring it!

Exactly right. Gators better go ahead and do as much as they can now because after this year things are going to start to go our way and paybacks...

 

[Cartervol]

Exactly right. Gators better go ahead and do as much as they can now because after this year things are going to start to go our way and paybacks...

Eventually yes, next year might be a stretch though. Its going to take a while to clean up the mess Phillip left.

 

[AFL2008]

UT is not comparable to Alabama at this time. The front 7 of Alabama is way better than the front 7 for Tennessee. In the secondary, Alabama has the better corners, and a better FS, but obviously, UT has the better SS.

On offense it isn't even close except for at RB.

Seriously, UT has a walk on at MLB, Alabama has Mclain and hightower that play MLB when they line up in a 34.

 

[Cartervol]

UT is not comparable to Alabama at this time. The front 7 of Alabama is way better than the front 7 for Tennessee. In the secondary, Alabama has the better corners, and a better FS, but obviously, UT has the better SS.

On offense it isn't even close except for at RB.

Seriously, UT has a walk on at MLB, Alabama has Mclain and hightower that play MLB when they line up in a 34.

I agree with everything you said expect secondary. Its impossible to judge just how good they are back there. They get to take most saturdays off. I'm sure they're talented, but the guys we have are no slouchs back there.

 

[RollOverVols]

The only clear advantage UT has over us on either side of the ball is the safety position, but that would be true even if we had Rashad Johnson back this year. We don't have world-beaters on the O-line, but they are working as a unit and were a pleasant surprise in the VT game. I would even give us the advantage at RB due to depth that we haven't seen at that position in many years. Crompton vs. McElroy is no contest right now.

If UF and UA lined up on a neutral field today I believe UF would be favored by about a touchdown. If our O-line continues to perform well the spread might drop to a field goal. Take Tebow away from UF and we might be favored by a field goal.

If UT continues to recruit well you will show steady improvement and should be able to contend for the SEC title again in 2011, provided LK really is a good head coach (he has surrounded himself with capable assistants, which is half the battle). For now I don't blame UT fans for having unrealistic expectations. Bama fans had to endure that situation for several years.

 

[AFL2008]

I agree with everything you said expect secondary. Its impossible to judge just how good they are back there. They get to take most saturdays off. I'm sure they're talented, but the guys we have are no slouchs back there.

Seriously, if you could take Javier Arenas and Kareem Jackson, and maybe a little bit of true frosh Dre Kirkpatrick, wouldn't you?

The starters against UCLA were Dennis Rogan and Art Evans.

I guess that could be even. But the guys at Alabama certainly tackle better.

 

[SGMVols]

We aren't as good as Bama on either side of the ball. Based on what I saw against VT, their QB McElroy is far superior to anyone we have. Their OL is also much better than ours. As for WRs, they have Julio Jones and we don't. That alone makes them better. I think our RBs are more talented, but theirs have been more productive, so I call that a draw.

On defense, Bama has an All-American NT in Cody. We don't have a single DL who will be an All-American this year. Bama also has much more depth at DL (though that will change very quickly with Coach O here). As for LB, it's not even close. We have only one proven talent in McCoy, whereas I think Bama's group of LBs is the best in the nation. The only defensive position where I think we can match up with them fairly evenly is in the secondary, mostly due to the presence of Eric Berry. But there's a lot of youth on the field next to #14 this year.

 

[lowcountryVOL]

Listening to sports talk earlier today and someone was describing Alabama.

They said Bama has a mediocre QB....fantastic defense...and great running backs.

Sounds like what Tennessee could be.

We have a solid defense but as good as Bama's?

Could be.

We have great running backs? No doubt.

We have a mediocre QB? Is McElroy that much better?

What's left....their receivers and the O-line.

Is our line that much worse than Bama's and are our receivers that much worse than Bama's and is our QB so much worse than Bama's that we are a 30 point underdog?

I say Crompton is either "due" for a decent major-mistake free game or he is due for the bench.

So if Bama with their mediocre QB and stable of running backs were to play UF what do you guys think the spread would be?

Edit: Also, what would the spread be if we played against Bama today? Just curious as to the thoughts....I'm certainly not looking ahead...just comparing Bama/UT at this stage in the game.

No.

Yes.

Exactly.

Yes.

 

[Cartervol]

Seriously, if you could take Javier Arenas and Kareem Jackson, and maybe a little bit of true frosh Dre Kirkpatrick, wouldn't you?

The starters against UCLA were Dennis Rogan and Art Evans.

I guess that could be even. But the guys at Alabama certainly tackle better.

Maybe so, but our Cornerbacks haven't had to play yet this season , so how well they tackle back there is yet to be seen. Those two corners are starting over some guys with a lot of talent.