Is Slive talking about Tennessee?

#27
#27
catfish said:
wow, you guys are worse than a sewing circle.
it sounds like he's just trying to put out a flame before it turns into a wildfire. and from the general attitude on VN regarding secondaries ("who cares! no penalty from the NCAA, exposure to recruits and free advertising!"), I would say he's making a good move. Rules are in place for a reason- to be followed, not disregarded. Whether the penalties are too harsh is another question, but it doesn't sound like he's going to bury a program over a half dozen SVs, rather an established trend of a program giving the NCAA the middle finger. I think his idea sounds fairly reasonable.
I think we should hold our coaches and programs to the rules in place and have stricter rules than the NCAA, esp. since they don't seem to do anything over a bunch of SVs. I don't think it will send the SEC back into oblivion because I don't think every program has been cheating like hell to get to where we are today.
But if you all are so concerned about it, why don't you just petition your AD to leave the SEC and go independent? you could cheat like hell and just worry about the slap on the wrist from the NCAA. Hell, in theory that would get you back to the promise land quicker, right?
No? Didn't think so.
You guys are the only SEC boards bitching about this. Take a deep breath, relax, and let this thing play out. Until then, stfu.
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This considering Slive kisses the Gators Tail.



TROLL ALERT.
 
#28
#28
Godfatha said:
What has Slive done to impact how many football NC's the conference has? The conference was pretty damn strong when he took the job. The NC's have more to do with Saban and Meyers building strong programs.
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1) Is that all you took away from that read? I don't know him from Adam so I don't really have an opinion about him one way or the other. However the read is impressive.

2) What has he done to warrant you calling him a jackass? He could be; I just don't know why you called him that.
 
#29
#29
Vols N Shocks said:
Oh I completely agree with you. I hope my post didn't come across as support for what Slive is doing with the conference. However my post was trying to point out that UT may not be one of the institutions he is speaking of for the more severe infractions. I'm sure we are one he watching though.
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right on. I would agree with you there as well.
 
#30
#30
catfish said:
wow, you guys are worse than a sewing circle.
it sounds like he's just trying to put out a flame before it turns into a wildfire. and from the general attitude on VN regarding secondaries ("who cares! no penalty from the NCAA, exposure to recruits and free advertising!"), I would say he's making a good move. Rules are in place for a reason- to be followed, not disregarded. Whether the penalties are too harsh is another question, but it doesn't sound like he's going to bury a program over a half dozen SVs, rather an established trend of a program giving the NCAA the middle finger. I think his idea sounds fairly reasonable.
I think we should hold our coaches and programs to the rules in place and have stricter rules than the NCAA, esp. since they don't seem to do anything over a bunch of SVs. I don't think it will send the SEC back into oblivion because I don't think every program has been cheating like hell to get to where we are today.
But if you all are so concerned about it, why don't you just petition your AD to leave the SEC and go independent? you could cheat like hell and just worry about the slap on the wrist from the NCAA. Hell, in theory that would get you back to the promise land quicker, right?
No? Didn't think so.
You guys are the only SEC boards bitching about this. Take a deep breath, relax, and let this thing play out. Until then, stfu.
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Mr. Slive,

The issue isnt "cheating like hell" or "getting back to the promise land" (which I guess is the land of promises??). It has everything to do with this commissioner overstepping his bounds and retroactively punishing programs. No need to go independent separatist extremist about it, but definitely against the entire spirit of "rules". Now please go back to servicing AD Foley and wiping up CUM's alligator tears while you try to play the tough guy.
 
#31
#31
I doubt very seriously that any punishment has been handed down to UT, I mean the new coaching staff hasn't been in place long enough to establish a "pattern" of secondary violations.
 
#32
#32
alwaysorange81 said:
Mr. Slive,

The issue isnt "cheating like hell" or "getting back to the promise land" (which I guess is the land of promises??). It has everything to do with this commissioner overstepping his bounds and retroactively punishing programs. No need to go independent separatist extremist about it, but definitely against the entire spirit of "rules". Now please go back to servicing AD Foley and wiping up CUM's alligator tears while you try to play the tough guy.
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please explain how a commissioner is overstepping his bounds by governing the coaches and programs he oversees. please. use any reference you can find where his job description is defined and that is not included. fact is you are just sulking over the fact that he is finally catching on to kiffins, sabans, etc attitude of "haha, they're just secondary violations! who cares?! nobody is going to punish us!"
now every coach is going to be held accountable to the rules, and you guys want to bitch and moan about it? here's a novel idea, get a coach who can follow the rules- most of the time (hes punishing trends, not single violations)- and you'll have nothing to worry about. I don't think that's too much to ask. "oh, but he's breaking the spirit of the rules!!" right, I believe some anonymous deadbeat vol poster over what the commissioner knows he can and can't do. again, prove it. until then, stfu.
also, kind of hypocritical to call out meyer for crying when that's all this board does whenever something anywhere in the college football universe doesn't go the vols direction. "espn hates us" "we didn't get a recruit because of so and so...."
not everything is a big conspiracy against the vols.
alwayso- do you use the same catch rag for kiffen to wipe your tears?
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#33
#33
I've had enough of Mike Slive criticizing UT. He needs to look at Florida and Alabama--they get away with whatever they want.
 
#34
#34
catfish said:
please explain how a commissioner is overstepping his bounds by governing the coaches and programs he oversees. please. use any reference you can find where his job description is defined and that is not included. fact is you are just sulking over the fact that he is finally catching on to kiffins, sabans, etc attitude of "haha, they're just secondary violations! who cares?! nobody is going to punish us!"
now every coach is going to be held accountable to the rules, and you guys want to bitch and moan about it? here's a novel idea, get a coach who can follow the rules- most of the time (hes punishing trends, not single violations)- and you'll have nothing to worry about. I don't think that's too much to ask. "oh, but he's breaking the spirit of the rules!!" right, I believe some anonymous deadbeat vol poster over what the commissioner knows he can and can't do. again, prove it. until then, stfu.
also, kind of hypocritical to call out meyer for crying when that's all this board does whenever something anywhere in the college football universe doesn't go the vols direction. "espn hates us" "we didn't get a recruit because of so and so...."
not everything is a big conspiracy against the vols.
alwayso- do you use the same catch rag for kiffen to wipe your tears?
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Excellant post! Some folks just naturally see black hellicopters overhead, they can't help it.
 
#35
#35
VolsRule said:
I've had enough of Mike Slive criticizing UT. He needs to look at Florida and Alabama--they get away with whatever they want.
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And what has UT/Kiffin NOT gotten away with? Did Slive specifically name UT as one of the school's that has been punished? I must have missed that part.:unsure:
 
#36
#36
VolsRule said:
I've had enough of Mike Slive criticizing UT. He needs to look at Florida and Alabama--they get away with whatever they want.
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apparently secondary violations are a bigger problem for the sec than players getting arrested. recruiting violations affect football programs, arrests affect the society.

if ut had the number of player arrests uf has, i can guarantee this article would have mentioned it.
 
#37
#37
catfish said:
please explain how a commissioner is overstepping his bounds by governing the coaches and programs he oversees. please. use any reference you can find where his job description is defined and that is not included. fact is you are just sulking over the fact that he is finally catching on to kiffins, sabans, etc attitude of "haha, they're just secondary violations! who cares?! nobody is going to punish us!"
now every coach is going to be held accountable to the rules, and you guys want to bitch and moan about it? here's a novel idea, get a coach who can follow the rules- most of the time (hes punishing trends, not single violations)- and you'll have nothing to worry about. I don't think that's too much to ask. "oh, but he's breaking the spirit of the rules!!" right, I believe some anonymous deadbeat vol poster over what the commissioner knows he can and can't do. again, prove it. until then, stfu.
also, kind of hypocritical to call out meyer for crying when that's all this board does whenever something anywhere in the college football universe doesn't go the vols direction. "espn hates us" "we didn't get a recruit because of so and so...."
not everything is a big conspiracy against the vols.
alwayso- do you use the same catch rag for kiffen to wipe your tears?
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ok...I'll try one more time to explain to you that I dont have a problem with the Commission running his league. I am also not the entire board so don't project everything you read here on me. My issue... and my issue alone (not shared with every Vol fan in the universe) is that no one at any job is right in making new punishments to old rules and then applying those punishments to offenders who violate those rules prior to your new assigning of punishment. Also these are my honest opinions, they do not require your response at all, neither do they require your individual ire. There is no need for name calling just because your frustrated over your own inability to mount a reasonable argument. Once again, my point is that Mike Slive can make whatever rules he wants. But he cant say some program violated those rules three years ago so he's going to punish them now. Now you can go wipe whatever you want with your "catch rag".
 
#38
#38
The biggest problem there is with this is "identifying trends." That opens up so much room for interpretation it's not even funny. And people need to stop giving credit to Slive for the growth of this league. This mostly falls with the institutions willingness to put up the money to succeed and the fan's willingness to pay for it with our craziness.
 
#40
#40
Tennessee needs to ignore this idiot. If he is handing down penalties for secondary violations and keeping his mouth shut on major NCAA violations like giving away textbooks for extra income then he is nothing more than an idiot.
 
#41
#41
UT administrators love Slive. He just got the richest TV contract ever for this league. I think it says something when Vandy will make more money from the TV contract this year than ND will with theirs.

UT fans should know that it's all about the money with commissioners and administrators.
 
#42
#42
Dude not to be dbag or anything but UT fans have enough intelligent people amongst us to figure out the motivations of administrators and commissioners. Sorry just a quark in my nature that cant stand the words "you should" anything.
 
#43
#43
catfish said:
please explain how a commissioner is overstepping his bounds by governing the coaches and programs he oversees. please. use any reference you can find where his job description is defined and that is not included. fact is you are just sulking over the fact that he is finally catching on to kiffins, sabans, etc attitude of "haha, they're just secondary violations! who cares?! nobody is going to punish us!"
now every coach is going to be held accountable to the rules, and you guys want to bitch and moan about it? here's a novel idea, get a coach who can follow the rules- most of the time (hes punishing trends, not single violations)- and you'll have nothing to worry about. I don't think that's too much to ask. "oh, but he's breaking the spirit of the rules!!" right, I believe some anonymous deadbeat vol poster over what the commissioner knows he can and can't do. again, prove it. until then, stfu.
also, kind of hypocritical to call out meyer for crying when that's all this board does whenever something anywhere in the college football universe doesn't go the vols direction. "espn hates us" "we didn't get a recruit because of so and so...."
not everything is a big conspiracy against the vols.
alwayso- do you use the same catch rag for kiffen to wipe your tears?
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Did you go to Florida University? Yes, I mean, FU
 
#44
#44
Slive is no friend of Kiffin or UT--that's pretty clear. He should get a bonus from Jeremy Foley at UF for sucking up to florida all the time.
 
#46
#46
Kiffin DOESNT need to lay low for any reason...it's WORKING guys..I was way ,way, skeptical about this guy..after seeing the recruits and coaches he brought in...(remember 1995-2001 how many games talent won DESPITE coaching)...

8-4 this year
10-2 minimum next...
2011 the sky's the limit
 
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