Is it Debord, OLine or Dobbs?

#51
#51
I know the perception is that Dobbs isn't running as much this year as he did last year. I see this written a lot. Fact is, he's actually averaging about 1.5 more carries per game this year....he's just not nearly as successful as he's averaging about 1.5 yards per carry less.
 
#52
#52
Cartervol said:
The last game was Dobbs. He had is check down underneath most of the night.. Muschamp sat back in zone and Dobbs forced a couple of throws. The fumble wasn't his fault. He threw some awful passes when he had guys wide open, in the dirt a few times. This offense is based on your trigger man executing. He simply didn't last week.

He's not running much this year either. A big part of last years offense. Without the threat of Dobbs legs, he's not much of a threat at all.
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OK thats one game explain the rest? Again the one constant that always been lackluster is the O-line. Dobbs has gad games that were good Debord has called good games even the haters will admit that. the O-line has been consistently inconsistent every game all year.

People are quick to break down the games we lost but look at the games we won. we won in spite of the O-line not because. the games we have won we won because Debord and Dobbs rose above the O-lines weaknesses. Our play calling has been limited greatly by the play of the line and anytime we go outside of safe bad things happen.

Go back and look at every game. Trust me I have watched them all multiple times. The second Int in the Sc game is the only game period where the O-line had no role in a turnover linked to Dobbs. it is easy in hindsight to say Dobbs made bad choices but a lot of you guys have never played FB much less QB. If you have a line that is consistently not protecting it changes your whole decision making process.

A lot of times u see Dobbs not setting properly. it is like he is so used to not being in a position to set his feet and make reads when he does he is out of sorts or he does not even bother trying.

A simpler concept to illustrate. Basketball. My coach might teach me fundamentals. If I am a PG in run a pick and roll offense and no one ever sets picks you eventually say forget it play iso and do your thing.
 
#54
#54
Football is a team sport and that includes coaches. We have bad coaching and poor player execution for the most part.

Our offense is stale, lacks creativity and very predictable. Of course thats what you get when you have an OC who has been out of football and inhaling chlorine fumes for the past 5+ years.

Our OL has been garbage for 4 years. I have yet to see an OL under Butch put together a season where it performs at an SEC level. There have been games where the OL has performed well, but in reality, we have had some of the worst OLs in the SEC for the past 4 years.

Dobbs? The writing is on the wall and should be clearly apparent to everyone. Dobbs just isnt that good. He has won us games with his athleticism and rarely with his arm. But in reality, that just shows how average our team has been more so than how good Dobbs has been. He is an excellent athlete that is an upstanding guy with a bright future ahead of him. But as a SR QB, he just as not shown the progression one would expect to see. Now it can be said that his production is a product of the OL and OC, and thats true. But his poor decision making skills, tendencies to stare down receivers, failure to make downfield reads and ajustments and his propensity to run backwards when pressured are things we continue to see happen with no signs of improvement.
 
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#55
#55
All three elements have been factors, but I'm with what I think is the majority......the OL is terrible, inconsistent. No way you get to the promised land with their play......not championship caliber. Maybe 9 and 3, maybe, but one isn't going to win the SECCG or anything else with that level of play.
 
#56
#56
jdhallvols said:
If it is Debord he should do the honorable thing and throw himself on a sword.

Azzanni will probably be given the OC reigns and that might be interesting. Throw the d*^# ball down the field !!

The OLine is porous but why?

Dobbs. Well there is Dobbs. He really doesn't throw the ball down the field accurately much but is that due to the scheme, his skills and/or Oline?

Anyway the truth is probably a little bit of all of the above but I do believe Azzanni will be our next OC whether we like it or not.

What say you?
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What the hell has Azzanni done to garner this big love affair from so many fans? I think he's the worst position coach on the team. He's also the 'throw game' coordinator, which is obviously subpar, but hell lets make him OC.
 
#57
#57
pimo1 said:
you must have been watching different games than me. Especially in the A&M game. In the SC game the first INT his guard got pushed into his lap as he was releasing the ball.

No matter how well Debord calls plays or Dobbs plays QB if he is not protected that all goes out the window. There are times that the line plays great and blocks well there are spurts of it in each game the problem is consistency. They are more consistently bad than not and that wears on both they QB and the OC because they have to have faith in them to call plays and execute. Trust me an all world O-line can cover up bad play calling and allow a QB to perform a lot better. Dobbs is a lot better QB than he has been able to show at UT much like Hurd. The good news is that we are finally starting to see kids come in at O-line and develop some and this year we have had the chance to get a lot of guys live game snaps. Dobbs' pain will pave the way for the next QB.

That being said, he is not done writing his legacy here.
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The lineman did not alter the throw on the first int. Furthermore, the lineman did not make the ill-advised decision to throw into coverage with a much better read (RB in the flat) wide open. Linemen didn't cause Dobbs to again ignore an open underneath receiver to throw into coverage in the 2nd ot vs Aggies or cause him to try and pick up two fumbles rather than fall on them.

Linemen have not been perfect, but serviceable. Dobbs' decision making has been the biggest problem with our offense this season. Has he had a turnover-free game at all this year??
 
#59
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MrBiggles said:
I'd throw the WR coach in there too. WR can't get off coverage and get open. When was the last time we had a dominate display from one? Of course we don't throw quick slants or outs very much either.
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I can agree with most things in this thread, Mahoney is a joke.

But Jennings dominates everytime he touches the field

However this IMO has 0 to do w Azzani, most receivers have regressed drastically under his watch.

We need 4 replacements this year

S&c coach.(1st year fail)

Azzani gone

Mahoney gone (Epic fail of biblical proportions)

Debord (Fail)
 
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