Is Dooley That Bad of a Coach?

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Nice read Andrew. Been saying a long time now, he came into as bad a situation as one could that didn't include sanctions. He has built a solid roster since he got here and this year I believe it will show on the field and in the W/L column. Also liked where you pointed out Lathers being the fourth lowest rated player in his class. Goes to show there are diamonds in the rough.
 
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Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis. :hi:
 
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Nice article but this isn't going to go well. I'm just glad to post on page 1 before it reaches 300. :)
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis. :hi:
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Ouch.
 
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Even though I think Dooley is firmly planted on the hot seat, very good article. Made some good points.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis. :hi:
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So your analysis is "our" side has excuses and "your" side has valid points? Wonder if Grunden or Smart had Been the HC the past two seasons, with the exact same roster and injuries, what their records would have been. Oh that's right, them, nor anyone else wanted the job cause it was a total cluster f***!!
 
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I think it takes great recruiting to get your program back to where it needs to be. Considering what UT has been through lately, it's going to take longer than two seasons to start getting recruiting going again. I think Dooley needs about 4 - 5 years, Get some signature wins, he can get it going.
 
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I learned more about the talent gap with your article than most. You brought up good points with Attrition, and the coaching change.

I'm going to play devil advocate. Dooley is not a good game day coach. I do not know if it's because of inexperience, or his coordinators. The team has seemed to be a little disorganized through out the season. It showed in the Kentucky game last year, the arkansas game, and other games during his time here. It's the little things that Dooley hasn't done right, and I'm sure he will be able to fix it this season.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
The OP's article is definitely better than that one in terms of grammar and using facts, albeit one-sided facts, rather than assumptions to support his conclusion.
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Thought it would be good to post the other article so both sides have equal grounds to argue(debate).
 
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There have been a lot of warts on this team. As HC DD has been "responsible" for treating all of them wether he was to blame or not for allowing them. This year will show if DD is part of the cure.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis. :hi:
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Those valid points usually simmer down to one... his record. Records are a function of coaches, players, and the overall program. To this point, Dooley has NEVER been HC of a team that was not in rebuilding mode. NONE of his teams at LT had been built up. Neither of his teams at UT have.

There are "excuses" and there are "reasons". They aren't the same. Point to record alone is an "excuse" to avoid any type of critical thinking and to satisfy emotion by drawing a conclusion before having enough facts.

I STILL do not know about Dooley. I have NEVER said he was destined for success. I have just chosen to have enough patience and objectivity to let him prove himself in a demanding but reasonable amount of time.
 
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If you go strictly by wins and losses and taking his time at La Tech into account, you would have to conclude he's not a very good coach. If you add context, then you can conclude the jury's still out on him. We'll see what kind of coach he is this year with a good schedule and a decently talented roster.
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Solid summary of the issues cdd has had to face. Of course you r going to be bashed as a sunshine pumping rainbow rider by people who think they can do a better job from behind their computer screens in their moms basement.

Can't wait for kickoff in The ATL!!! GBO!!!
 
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Burger said:
I learned more about the talent gap with your article than most. You brought up good points with Attrition, and the coaching change.

I'm going to play devil advocate. Dooley is not a good game day coach. I do not know if it's because of inexperience, or his coordinators. The team has seemed to be a little disorganized through out the season. It showed in the Kentucky game last year, the arkansas game, and other games during his time here. It's the little things that Dooley hasn't done right, and I'm sure he will be able to fix it this season.
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I am more concerned about critical choices at critical times. I do not know what he will call with the game on the line... or if it will be good. I don't know if he can gameplan or not. He is a detail nut... almost OCD.

FWIW, experienced players are more organized than players who do not know which tunnel to run in.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis. :hi:
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Exactly! Major homerism and very little if an honest analytical observation. Like you said VHB, it's nothing more than a recap of all the excuses the DDNMWB have been making.
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DD4ME said:
There have been a lot of warts on this team. As HC DD has been "responsible" for treating all of them wether he was to blame or not for allowing them. This year will show if DD is part of the cure.
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Maybe the team had warts because they weren't showering properly. But thank God our head coach has fixed that.
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Miss Amy Hamilton, my 10th grade English teacher, would have counseled you to shorten the title to simply "Is Dooley That Bad a Coach"?
The preposition of is superfluous in this case.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Looks like you answered your own question by cutting and pasting the usual litany of excuses that get thrown up here without even mentioning the equally valid points that can be made on the other side. Congratulations! You're halfway home to engaging in real analysis. :hi:
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It's obvious to most, however, Apparently, not to you, this was clearly an opinion piece -- not a neutral, analysis piece.

Since you felt the need to be a brazen, arrogant jackass, I feel it necessary to show your ignorance and lack of knowledge. HAve fun being ripped by countless others for your worthless demeanor.
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There is a big difference between not being a "bad coach" and being a coach capable of winning big in the SEC. The SEC discard pile is full of good coaches that couldn't get it done against the big boys.
 
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8-4 is a hell of a lot more better than 5-7. I'll take 8-4 with a bowl win at 9-4. But I have a gut feeling we are in for a treat this year. Enjoy Big Orange brethren!!
 
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