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trout-vol said:
Poorly planned? You have no idea what you're talking about son. Talk to me when we are losing ships and airplanes left and right. I think you get confused between reality and what you're hoping for
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Trump said this would take 5 weeks. It's been 13 weeks. And looks like we are negotiating a 60 day cease fire. 5 weeks to achieve regime change and take the enriched Uranium and free the Iranian people of oppression. So 13 weeks and none of that has been achieved so try another 8 weeks on top. I don't know how you would define that as well planned.

No one doubted we could bomb them to oblivion and destroy their military assets. It's the everything else most doubted. At least without significant ground troop commitment which was never going to happen in the first place IMO
 
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volfanhill said:
If what is rumored to be the agreement is the actual agreement I see no reason for Iran not to take it.

Gradual end to blockade and opening of strait

No more military ops

No negotiation on uranium and nukes yet

Release of Iranian funds

Easing of sanctions


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Good lord that is a worse position than before Trump started this fiasco. But I’m not surprised!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Good lord that is a worse position than before Trump started this fiasco. But I’m not surprised!
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Again, Iran has been doing WTF they wanted since Trump tore up the agreement in 2017-2018. With the ever evolving advancements in the industry, you don't think Iran enhanced their nuclear capabilities in that 7-8 years of NO restrictions? That's all due to this clown
 
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trout-vol said:
Keep on hoping. Your comrade Obama would be proud of all of your hope. Maybe the next Democrat president can give a trillion dollars to Iran and maybe give them a little nuclear technology too. I'm sure you communist would be happy with that
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Trump bout to give Iran more money than Obama even dreamed of comrade.
 
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volfanhill said:
If what is rumored to be the agreement is the actual agreement I see no reason for Iran not to take it.

Gradual end to blockade and opening of strait

No more military ops

No negotiation on uranium and nukes yet

Release of Iranian funds

Easing of sanctions


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So basically Iran got everything they wanted. BRILLIANT 5D Checkers move Trump! lol what a godd@mn clown.
 
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Since we can't unstart the war, continuously wringing our hands is a waste of time. With that in mind: what exactly would y'all actually want to happen at this point? I am ready to get out of there and hope that a) we have severely hampered their nuclear development and b) we have decimated their military and the regime leadership enough that a civil uprising is possible and could overthrow the regime. I don't want our military going in for that job.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Since we can't unstart the war, continuously wringing our hands is a waste of time. With that in mind: what exactly would y'all actually want to happen at this point? I am ready to get out of there and hope that a) we have severely hampered their nuclear development and b) we have decimated their military and the regime leadership enough that a civil uprising is possible and could overthrow the regime. I don't want our military going in for that job.
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Trump said he was gonna commit genocide.

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Haven't seen a good genocide since the 90s. TACO.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
You aren't answering the question.

That's as useless as me continually complaining that a different conservative candidate wasn't the R nominee during the past 3 elections.
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I’m all for ending this fiasco as soon as possible however if those terms are accurate then it’s valid to condemn the whole act and demand some people’s jobs up to and including Trump’s job as far as I’m concerned.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
You aren't answering the question.

That's as useless as me continually complaining that a different conservative candidate wasn't the R nominee during the past 3 elections.
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Finish the job. Whatever that is going to take. Like you said, can't go back in time and NOT do it so don't half ass it, which is what is happening, and finish the job.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Since we can't unstart the war, continuously wringing our hands is a waste of time. With that in mind: what exactly would y'all actually want to happen at this point? I am ready to get out of there and hope that a) we have severely hampered their nuclear development and b) we have decimated their military and the regime leadership enough that a civil uprising is possible and could overthrow the regime. I don't want our military going in for that job.
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I’m open to continuing the blockade. It’s effective and we aren’t losing troops. Continue the blockade until they’re willing to give up all nuclear ambitions and all enriched uranium.
 
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Aaaaaaaaaand it’s off (not necessarily off but not as complete as claimed either)

Trump says framework of Iran deal 'largely negotiated,' with provision to reopen strait -


Iran's Fars news agency reported early on Sunday that the agreement would allow Iran to manage the Strait of Hormuz. It said Trump's assertion that an agreement was nearly final was "inconsistent with reality."

If this statement above is agreed too then this whole fiasco is a huge failure and they need to throw Trump out on his ass.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Aaaaaaaaaand it’s off (not necessarily off but not as complete as claimed either)

Trump says framework of Iran deal 'largely negotiated,' with provision to reopen strait -


Iran's Fars news agency reported early on Sunday that the agreement would allow Iran to manage the Strait of Hormuz. It said Trump's assertion that an agreement was nearly final was "inconsistent with reality."

If this statement above is agreed too then this whole fiasco is a huge failure and they need to throw Trump out on his ass.
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The early reports I saw reported that Iran and Oman would share responsibility of the Strait
 
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volfanhill said:
The early reports I saw reported that Iran and Oman would share responsibility of the Strait
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That’s still absolutely crazy and a huge step backwards from where this started. If tolls wind up on the table every damn country needs to say hey Trump you idiot this bill is yours you created this.
 
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